Titanium 3" catless downpipes

ar design · 10-23-2009, 11:29 AM

Looking into sourcing some high grade titanium to fabricate exhaust/downpipes with. Any interest? ~30%+ weight savings, and an undeniable bling factor.

scheherazade · 10-23-2009, 11:43 AM

So what would they cost for an XI? 1100?

Le'Sigh...

I'm just pullin' your leg :P (sorta :-\)

Go for it man. You got good rep, I'm sure you can move them.

-scheherazade

Gen_E92 · 10-23-2009, 11:46 AM

I think you'll have much more interest in a well priced titanium exhaust that actually sounds good like Dixis.

GreenPlease · 10-23-2009, 11:49 AM

Interest in ti catted full back for ~$2500

flem · 10-23-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheherazade

So what would they cost for an XI? 1100?

Le'Sigh...

I'm just pullin' your leg :P (sorta :-\)

Go for it man. You got good rep, I'm sure you can move them.

-scheherazade

...I might want this as well... and I'm a xi also

ar design · 10-23-2009, 12:16 PM

So more interest for a cat-back vs downpipes? They will NOT be $699. The material is SUPER expensive. Heh, I even had one place quote me $150/ft for 3" tube....

Digital.James · 10-23-2009, 12:39 PM

I would be more interested in a ti exhaust for under 2k.

dreaming im sure

cstmx_ryder · 10-23-2009, 12:39 PM

+1 on the Ti DP back exhaust.........Dixis is just WAY too much. I priced out a set of their Ti midpipes and exhaust, and it came out to be something like 4500 bucks. The rear exhaust section is over 3k.

I guess affordable Ti exhaust is an oxymoron......LOL.

This is the part where the appropriate phrase "you pay to play" comes in for real!

Alan l. · 10-23-2009, 12:46 PM

My guess i that your current DP are already plenty bling enough for the majority of the people here (They look like trophy worthy pieces!). For something that you can't see installed it would be hard to justify paying significantly more money for imo.

Someone needs to come out with an exhaust that sounds good and doesn't cost an arm and a leg with nice looking tips.

Craig@SupremePower · 10-23-2009, 01:28 PM

beta tester!!!

mwscircle · 10-23-2009, 01:45 PM

yooo!! i'll be down for a titanium downpipe

nothing against that!! Im collecting more titanium pieces >.<

ar design · 10-23-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

My guess i that your current DP are already plenty bling enough for the majority of the people here (They look like trophy worthy pieces!). For something that you can't see installed it would be hard to justify paying significantly more money for imo.

Someone needs to come out with an exhaust that sounds good and doesn't cost an arm and a leg with nice looking tips.

Haha, thank you! We could call these "Bling+" downpipes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig@SupremePower

beta tester!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwscircle

yooo!! i'll be down for a titanium downpipe

nothing against that!! Im collecting more titanium pieces >.<

XPO186 · 10-23-2009, 03:28 PM

IMO, since the DPs are a relatively small part of the full exhaust (from the turbos) it isn't worth producing Ti DPs because the weight savings would be negligible.

However, I'd definitely be interested in an *affordable* full Ti DP back exhaust... and if you were to produce a full Ti turbo-back exhaust, I think that would justify manufacturing DPs in Ti.

Also... the exhaust note would HAVE to be aggressive and unique, a la DIXIS JP. None of this "slightly louder than stock for 5 grand" Akrapovic nonsense

XPO186 · 10-23-2009, 03:30 PM

Btw, I'm loving the coated catless DPs Andrew... keep up the good work!

Jonny550 · 10-23-2009, 03:41 PM

Way to go bro making downpipes that are more expensive and provide the same exact thing as stainless steel exept " it will look really cool" and you will never see it expect 2 times the day you install it and the day you uninstall it. GL with your $2000 downpipes

NMS335 · 10-23-2009, 04:01 PM

I like the idea, but for double the cost, saving 6lbs doesnt sound like a great performance bargain. I would definately buy a used set for a little more than standard new DP's though

Zeph · 10-23-2009, 04:08 PM

A full Turbo-Back titanium exhaust system would be killer. I bet you could lose atleast 70 pounds off the car even if you left it as a dual 2.5" system (well I guess plus the 3" swollen DP's). It would be even better if it could be had for under $2500.

I am hoping for a full Ti TB exhaust, probalby single 3" or maybe slightly larger, for a Single Turbo upgrade in the future

Universal_Magnetic · 10-23-2009, 04:13 PM

a full Turbo back titanium exhaust would be killer

XPO186 · 10-23-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

A full Turbo-Back titanium exhaust system would be killer. I bet you could lose atleast 70 pounds off the car even if you left it as a dual 2.5" system (well I guess plus the 3" swollen DP's). It would be even better if it could be had for under $2500.

I am hoping for a full Ti TB exhaust, probalby single 3" or maybe slightly larger, for a Single Turbo upgrade in the future

Hell yeah...

I love the tone of titanium exhaust systems but take into account the cost and the fact that people may be going to a single turbo upgrade would make it a PITA to deal with. If the system were less expensive and modular to cater for upgraded twins or large single upgrades... that would be killer.

I'm wondering what turbo AR is running in their shop car right now

Zeph · 10-23-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPO186

Hell yeah...

I love the tone of titanium exhaust systems but take into account the cost and the fact that people may be going to a single turbo upgrade would make it a PITA to deal with. If the system were less expensive and modular to cater for upgraded twins or large single upgrades... that would be killer.

I'm wondering what turbo AR is running in their shop car right now

AMS has a great idea with their exhaust, making it easily swappable over to a single setup. Only problem is Y-pipes are so expensive... The AMS Dp-back system would probably cost close to $3k if it were identical yet full Titanium.

XPO186 · 10-23-2009, 05:11 PM

IMO 3k (although not cheap) is a pretty decent price for a full exhaust made entirely from titanium. But even in that case, I'd probably still wait until I get a turbo upgrade so I wouldn't have to buy the ypipe.

What I can't figure out is how ppl justify paying in excess of 1500 for just mufflers! Eisenmann race costs over 2k and it weighs as much as stock! At least for 3k the materials are excellent and the weight savings would be incredible.

@Andrew: Have you guys done an exhaust with inconel yet?

ianthegreat · 10-23-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

My guess i that your current DP are already plenty bling enough for the majority of the people here (They look like trophy worthy pieces!). For something that you can't see installed it would be hard to justify paying significantly more money for imo.

Someone needs to come out with an exhaust that sounds good and doesn't cost an arm and a leg with nice looking tips.

+1

No reason for exotic alloys besides weight.

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scheherazade Major 36 Rep 1,467 Posts Drives: 09 GTR (& 93' accord!) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: DC metro area iTrader: (8)	So what would they cost for an XI? 1100? Le'Sigh... I'm just pullin' your leg :P (sorta :-\) Go for it man. You got good rep, I'm sure you can move them. -scheherazade
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ar design 297 Rep 4,408 Posts Drives: 04 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (9)	So more interest for a cat-back vs downpipes? They will NOT be $699. The material is SUPER expensive. Heh, I even had one place quote me $150/ft for 3" tube.... __________________ -Critter
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 165 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	+1 on the Ti DP back exhaust.........Dixis is just WAY too much. I priced out a set of their Ti midpipes and exhaust, and it came out to be something like 4500 bucks. The rear exhaust section is over 3k. I guess affordable Ti exhaust is an oxymoron......LOL. This is the part where the appropriate phrase "you pay to play" comes in for real! __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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XPO186 Colonel 128 Rep 2,740 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (19)	IMO 3k (although not cheap) is a pretty decent price for a full exhaust made entirely from titanium. But even in that case, I'd probably still wait until I get a turbo upgrade so I wouldn't have to buy the ypipe. What I can't figure out is how ppl justify paying in excess of 1500 for just mufflers! Eisenmann race costs over 2k and it weighs as much as stock! At least for 3k the materials are excellent and the weight savings would be incredible. @Andrew: Have you guys done an exhaust with inconel yet? __________________
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