[samwoo2go]

Situation:

So i was at my aunt's pad for thanksgiving.

My little cousin (boy 12) is here. I gots much love for him but he is a lawless brat with all kinds of destruction, screaming, breaking shit, scratching, kicking and biting (there were a couple times that he ripped my shirt becasue I didn't wanna play with him and I let it slid). His parents is out of the country for the week.

I brought my dog over and he has a 4 feet heavy metal chain leash. He asked me where the chain was and I said im not gona tell you because you gona swing it like a weapon and break shit (my aunt have a bunch of glass and ceramic antiques).

Im on the computer surfing the OT on E90 and he said, if you dont tell me in 3 seconds, imna unplug your computer. So I said, don't do it, its bad for the computer and imna punch you if you do. So he counted to 3 and unpluged it. So I got up and grabbed him pinned him to the ground and hit him once on the upper torso. I hit him at probably about 40% force, I would describe it as how I hit my friends when they play a prank at me, like a friendly but remember this shit punch. He didn't cry right away but eventually did and my aunt saw it.

So then for the rest of the night this huge argument broke out in my family. Half at the table is mad at me for hitting him, and half is like whatever don't care because he is a brat and deserved it because his parents don't disiplin him all the other time when he destroies couches and shirts at other relatives pad.

And of the half that got mad, 1/3 siad they got mad because they worry about me going to jail for child abuse, 1/3 said they got mad becasue I am not his parents and I have no right nor its my place to teach him manners even if he is fucking up shit and 1/3 is mad because they mad mad for "will somebody think of the children reasons."

I thought of it as a valuable lesson for my lil bud, don't think the whole world will baby you like your parents, be good or face consequences. And I will do as I say just like every1 else besides your parents.

BTW for the rest of the night, awesome behavior, no yelling at dinner, no running and breaking shit, went to bed at 9 on the dot, no complaining.

His lil brother was also here and he said something that kinda stuck with me, which is why I am making this poll. He said "man don't hit boys" Its true man don't hit boys because I can literally break him in half if I wanted to, but boys also shouldn't think that they can do whatever the fuck they want just because I am man and they are boys, and they think I won't hit them.

So am I at fault for hitting him for what he did? VOTE!!

[oneintheory]

I'll share my thoughts even without the poll.

I don't have much patience for kids like that. Of course, most kids will go through a phase, but that should be before they are twelve. His parents should have disciplined that out of him a long time ago.
That said, you did it completely wrong. You should never physically discipline someone else's child without their express consent. I'm all for physical punishment, having been rather effectively subjected to it as a child. There comes a time, however, when physical punishment is rendered obsolete in the child's mind by other forms, like grounding or restrictions. Besides, punching a kid is NEVER an acceptable form of punishment. I would never consider striking a child with anything other than an open hand as a form of punishment. Anything else borders on assault or abuse, and will get you fear, not respect. You witnessed that firsthand, as the kid behaved well for the rest of the night. I guarantee you it was because he was afraid of being punched again, not because he respected you.

Ultimately, what you should have done is made clear to his parents that he was not welcome wherever you were unless his behavior were modified or open to modification (and by that I mean you were given the authority to physically punish him).
Of course, I'm writing all of this from my perspective, and your perspective could be culturally different (or not). I don't really know your situation.

[gonzo]

He sounds like a wonderful young man...in need of a stronger set of parents.

My dad would have tannned my hide if I ever acted like that. In front of everyone right then.

[GGreek5]

I think its fine what you did. He's not your son, he's your cousin. My cousins used to beat the shit out of me when I was a little brat. That stuff is normal. If it was your son, obviously a different approach should be taken. But a less than half power punch....no problem.

[Feyd]

From the other post.

I was a boy once. Let me tell you... when I got hit, I remembered it and didn't do stupid shit.

I'm 6'3" @ 255lbs... my dad is 5'8" maybe like 175lbs. We have a great fantastic relationship, but that dude still intimidates me.


While I'm not necessarily sure I condone "punching" him, I think a good bitch slap would have been appropriate. For some reason in my mind a closed handed hit seems a bit more serious than an open handed one.

I fucking hate bullshit not-ready-for-parenthood complacent parents. I would have slapped each of them after I got done slapping their kid.

[GGreek5]

Originally Posted by Feyd

From the other post.

I was a boy once. Let me tell you... when I got hit, I remembered it and didn't do stupid shit.

I'm 6'3" @ 255lbs... my dad is 5'8" maybe like 175lbs. We have a great fantastic relationship, but that dude still intimidates me.


While I'm not necessarily sure I condone "punching" him, I think a good bitch slap would have been appropriate. For some reason in my mind a closed handed hit seems a bit more serious than an open handed one.

I fucking hate bullshit not-ready-for-parenthood complacent parents. I would have slapped each of them after I got done slapping their kid.

LOL about your Dad still intimidating you. I'm the same way and he's pushin 73 years old.

[gonzo]

^ right.

My pop is 73 and can still bench 250.

And yes, he would still probably whack me in the side of the head if I did something stupid in his presence.

[Nawaaz]

You hit your little cousin because he unplugged your computer??

Granted he's an annoying brat, but he was just messin' around with you. You just gotta be extra, extra cautious around these kinda' children. Even I have a hard time teaching myself that same thing.

It's an understandable situation since I can see myself reacting the same way at times. At the end, I guess I would be wrong.

[immiketoo]

I have a zero tolerance for ultimatums. I was at a friend's kids birthday party once in the middle of the summer. I had just arrived in the middle of a water fight, and an 11 year old ran up with a cup of ice water and threatened to throw it on me. I told him not to since I had just arrived, and he threatened again. I told him if he did it, I would stuff him in the cooler (HUUUUGE Igloo) and sit on the lid for 60 seconds. He splashed the water, and I grabbed his ass and stuffed him in the cooler, set my stopwatch and sat there while he screamed the whole time, kicking and punching. At the 60 second mark, I calmly opened the lid and helped him out. He ran to his mother and told, and all she said was, "It's your own fault. He told you what the consequences would be and you did it anyway." Michael (The kid) has been the most respectful kid I know since that day.

Kids that get away with that kind of shit unchecked are the ones that treat everyone like shit their whole lives. I think your cousin learned a valuable lesson.

[b0bab0i]

What you did was right. I agree with everything you did. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

Imagine later on in high school or life, if he messes around with someone, they most likely wont take his shit and beat his fucking ass to a pulp.

[FStop7]

Sorry, but bratty kids need that ass beaten once in a while. If a kid starts messing with me or my stuff, all bets are off. If their parents won't control them then I'll take matters into my own hands.

This is why I hate kids, anyway.

[BMW F22]

I think that parents should be allowed to hit their kids (not abuse or beat the shit out of them). Back in Vietnam I used to get beat until my ass bleed (not literally) whenever I do something major. If I did something bad but not major I would get whipped a few times and kneed for like an hour. If it was bigger then I would go stuff as much clothes as possible cus I knew I was gonna get roasted.

Now my parents love me to death but they knew that kids must be disciplined; otherwise they will run wild (I've seen it happen). So in a way I applaud what you did to your lil cousin. It usually depends on how it's viewed in their mind though. I mean some kids know that they're supposed to behave after that while others just view it as physical abuse and grow up to be punks. However, more often than not they learn that there are consequences if they behave badly.

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by dark335i

What if he had suffocated or had a panic attack and then suffocated??

Then I would have been screwed, but there was little chance of that happening due to the fact that there was nothing but 2 inches of ice in the cooler. It's not like I held his head under water for a minute....

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by dark335i

I think you did the right thing, the kid needs to learn his lesson, but, you only got him to fear you, not respect you.

I don't know, I think he learned there are consequences for his actions... Don't you?

[dragon1761]

Well better for you to teach him at home than to have someone else kick the crap out of him in the streets.

[jaiman]

Originally Posted by immiketoo

I don't know, I think he learned there are consequences for his actions... Don't you?

I think he also learned that you're an asshole.

Good lord. Adults, loosing control of their tempers and hitting kids or locking them in coolers. Perhaps you could have used your pea brains and come up with a better way to deal with the situations. As I said in the first thread, its pathetic. Go get vascetomies. Now. Today.

[Feyd]

Originally Posted by jaiman

Go get vascetomies. Now. Today.

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by GGreek5

LOL about your Dad still intimidating you. I'm the same way and he's pushin 73 years old.

even more reason to be intimidated

[SoCali E36]

Originally Posted by jaiman

I think he also learned that you're an asshole.

Good lord. Adults, loosing control of their tempers and hitting kids or locking them in coolers. Perhaps you could have used your pea brains and come up with a better way to deal with the situations. As I said in the first thread, its pathetic. Go get vascetomies. Now. Today.

you must be one of the boys parents... the mother i presume?

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by jaiman

I think he also learned that you're an asshole.

Good lord. Adults, loosing control of their tempers and hitting kids or locking them in coolers. Perhaps you could have used your pea brains and come up with a better way to deal with the situations. As I said in the first thread, its pathetic. Go get vascetomies. Now. Today.

While I'm at the Dr's office, go get yourself a sense of humor. Uptight pillars like you probably coddle your kids every time they sneeze, and we're fast friends today. Easy Dr. Spock...

[Noc57]

I love this thread....

The little shits deserve what's coming to them.

My dad used to knock the hell out of me when I F'ed up......People these days are so careful about what's politically correct....

"Ohh...the CHILDREN!"

[jaiman]

Originally Posted by SoCali E90

you must be one of the boys parents... the mother i presume?

And you obviously like fat chicks.