Legitimate Title contenders for the 2010 season

Ramos · 12-23-2009, 03:58 PM

First of all, welcome back Schumi... I am so excited about his return even though I am not a fan of his.. I give him mad props and respect for putting it all on the line to come back like that

Now who do you guys think are the REAL title contenders now for 2010?

In my eyes, it has to be:

1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Schumi
4. Vettel

Sorry, but I cannot see any of the #2's (Massa, Button, Rosberg, and Weber) have any real chance at it...

Thoughts ?

2M · 12-23-2009, 09:48 PM

It's gon be a real close one! Look what happened in 2009 !
No one could even imagine Buton winning it before the season!
I'm really on Schumi's side.
The merc should be competative given that they were driver and constructor champs! + now its a Merc team! meaning more doughhhhh....
Schumacher has a lot of experience so he'l definatelly advance and evolve the new car...I say it's between Alonso and Schumacher !
2010 has the potential of being the greatest season of all time! Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Rosberg are all potential winners....
wow we'l have 4 Champions on the grid!

KANdaddy · 12-24-2009, 01:19 AM

For once I agree with you Ramos....except I'd go with this order:
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Schumi
4. Hamilton (hate ur azz)

2M · 12-24-2009, 02:05 AM

1) Alonso
2) Schumacher
3) Hamilton
4) Vettel

Spec Volcanic · 12-24-2009, 08:32 AM

1. Alonso or Vettel
2. Alonso or Vettel
3. Massa maybe Schumacher or Hamilton (I also "hate ur azz")

vwong · 12-24-2009, 11:18 AM

I would say

1. Alonso
2. Schumacher
3. Massa
4. Vettel

I wouldn't even put Hamilton (also hate ur azz) on there.

magha · 12-24-2009, 12:54 PM

Schuey all the way!!! it's gonna be a fantastic season

2M · 12-24-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vwong

I would say

1. Alonso
2. Schumacher
3. Massa
4. Vettel

I wouldn't even put Hamilton (also hate ur azz) on there.

well you can't just say you won't put him up there...he is McLaren's number #1 driver....and McLaren is, well McLaren..

Shevon · 12-29-2009, 12:14 PM

1) Alonso
2) Schumacher
3) Hamilton
4) Vettel
and Massa

///M1 · 01-04-2010, 12:32 PM

Very tough to predict, I hope there arte no 'team orders', so Massa and Alonso, Hamilton and Button, Rosberg and Michael, etc. are allowed to duke it out!

Stanky19 · 01-22-2010, 12:13 AM

from everything and everyone i know in the business......my money would have to be placed on Vettel.

However, i think alonso, hamilton, massa and schumacher will be right there waiting for any slips. I hope nico has a better year too, he's someone who has been eclipsed by a so so car for too long!

MontegoblueE92 · 01-22-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanky19

from everything and everyone i know in the business......my money would have to be placed on Vettel.

However, i think alonso, hamilton, massa and schumacher will be right there waiting for any slips. I hope nico has a better year too, he's someone who has been eclipsed by a so so car for too long!

What would make you think Vettel over Alonso? Besides the fact that Adrian Newey seems to be the designer of the best cars lately? He is way too harsh on his tires and I think that is what is going to hold him back this season. Alonso is arguably the best out there, and now he is in one of the better cars and it is suited to him. I'm predicting an Alonso/Schumacher/Hamilton battle.

Stanky19 · 01-22-2010, 01:01 AM

i agree with you whole heartedly about alonso being the best out there, but alonso is a very emotional driver, and he needs an emotional team behind him (like renault in the mild seven days). Yes i feel Ferrari is more suited to him than Mclaren was without a doubt, but i'm not convinced the Ferrari car will be able to leapfrog its rivals on development.

FWIW, word was that Brawn had already achieved over 100% of the 09' car's downforce on the 10' car when they were working on it mid 09' season (the dip in their results, once the title became the focus, resources were shifted back to the 09' car, hence the brawn's pace increase towards the end of the year.) So they should be solid out of the box as well. (Schumi)

Newey is arguably the best aerodynamicist in the paddock, and with the front tires loosing size (ie. favoring more of a pushy balance) this year in the regs, as well as the WHOLE fuel load onboard, tire conservation is going to be the main priority to minimize pit stops. To be more specific, rear tire conservation. As with any high hp car/formula car, it's verrry easy to overheat the rear tires and raise the pressure, thus making them less effective. We stuggle with it on the Indy lights car and the Grand Am Rolex cars, and we're no where near the F1 hp levels. So if you can preserve you're rear tires for a longer time, you will have better shots off the corners (which is where most of the lap time is on high hp cars). F1 is unique as it has such high levels of downforce, but most tracks have a few if not a majority of slow speed, mechanical grip corners that necessitate effective rear tire use to exit well. And you can bet Newey is considering this into the 10' design. I'm not saying it's for sure, but i feel his optimization of the rules (as he showed in 09') and Vettel being hungry (letting the title slip away), i feel he will be the favorite.

If it rains, i think it'll be the hamilton and vettel show!

03SG///M3 · 01-22-2010, 10:30 AM

I'm guessing Lewis will win the title.

E90SLAM · 01-22-2010, 12:28 PM

I'm guessing, Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso....maybe Massa....

KANdaddy · 01-22-2010, 12:41 PM

Vettel/Alonso...maybe Schumi.....*F* Hamilton.....Massa will not be mentally ready. Even though all his interviews he says he is ready...you can see in his expression and eyes that there is still some trepidation in him. Maybe he will shake it off b4 the first green flag of the season....who knows. But my money is on Vettel and Alonso.

The wait is KILLING me, BTW

Stanky19 · 01-22-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KANdaddy

The wait is KILLING me, BTW

Ramos · 01-22-2010, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanky19

+1000, I have been watching reruns of 09 races... Never done that before... I am suffering from F1 withdrawal

KANdaddy · 01-22-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos

+1000, I have been watching reruns of 09 races... Never done that before... I am suffering from F1 withdrawal

Seriously.....I was even going to put together a compilation video of 09 in iMovie...can't find any good torrents of 09 races tho

E90SLAM · 01-22-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KANdaddy

Seriously.....I was even going to put together a compilation video of 09 in iMovie...can't find any good torrents of 09 races tho

I thought there were tonnes of torrents...at least i downloaded most of the 09 races....they are ripped from BBC live!!!

No commercial FTMFW!!!!

///M1 · 01-25-2010, 10:27 AM

Here is a cool Red Bull promo on Canada GP 2010. Can't wait to go back there!

12-23-2009, 03:58 PM	#1
Ramos Colonel 903 Rep 2,919 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (7)	Legitimate Title contenders for the 2010 season First of all, welcome back Schumi... I am so excited about his return even though I am not a fan of his.. I give him mad props and respect for putting it all on the line to come back like that Now who do you guys think are the REAL title contenders now for 2010? In my eyes, it has to be: 1. Alonso 2. Hamilton 3. Schumi 4. Vettel Sorry, but I cannot see any of the #2's (Massa, Button, Rosberg, and Weber) have any real chance at it... Thoughts ?
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2M Colonel 512 Rep 2,200 Posts Drives: Mineral Grey M2 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (2)	It's gon be a real close one! Look what happened in 2009 ! No one could even imagine Buton winning it before the season! I'm really on Schumi's side. The merc should be competative given that they were driver and constructor champs! + now its a Merc team! meaning more doughhhhh.... Schumacher has a lot of experience so he'l definatelly advance and evolve the new car...I say it's between Alonso and Schumacher ! 2010 has the potential of being the greatest season of all time! Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Rosberg are all potential winners.... wow we'l have 4 Champions on the grid! __________________ E9X Picture Game: 8 points: (High visibility jacket; Strip Club; Pizzeria; Sobriety Test; E9x dressed for Halloween, Billiards, Oil Change, Orange Cone)
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vwong Lieutenant 31 Rep 595 Posts Drives: All Euro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (3)	I would say 1. Alonso 2. Schumacher 3. Massa 4. Vettel I wouldn't even put Hamilton (also hate ur azz) on there. __________________ 2010 Audi S4 6MT 2009 BMW 335i Coupe 6MT YouTube Channel
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KANdaddy Colonel 2583 Rep 2,825 Posts Drives: 22 M3C XDrive-Ind Grey Blk Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (5)	Vettel/Alonso...maybe Schumi.....F Hamilton.....Massa will not be mentally ready. Even though all his interviews he says he is ready...you can see in his expression and eyes that there is still some trepidation in him. Maybe he will shake it off b4 the first green flag of the season....who knows. But my money is on Vettel and Alonso. The wait is KILLING me, BTW __________________
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