Adding 10" W6 to 335 Sedan

Rex32 · 01-26-2010, 05:29 PM

Hey Guys,

I'm in the process of getting my 335i sedan, and I want to start planning out my audio setup. I had two 12" W3's in my WRX, powered by a JL 500.1 but I recently sold those subs and got a 10" W6 from a friend of mine. I want to add this to the 335 if it isn't going to take up a ton of room... Does anyone make a corner box?

Is the 500.1 going to put out too much power for that sub?

Anyone have any pictures of their 10" sub installed in a sedan?

Thanks,

Mike

amlebede · 01-26-2010, 11:46 PM

I think that the 500/1 will be good for a JL 10W3V3. Too much power is not really a problem. Underpowering is generally worse.

fdriller9 · 01-27-2010, 11:35 PM

You have to go custom for an enclosure on the side...as for the amp, you'll be fine. Just make sure you adjust the gains properly.

VP Electricity · 01-27-2010, 11:41 PM

Technic, you have any pics of that enclosure you're testing?

VP Electricity · 01-27-2010, 11:45 PM

In tooling...

amlebede · 01-28-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by *********

You have to go custom for an enclosure on the side...as for the amp, you'll be fine. Just make sure you adjust the gains properly.

http://www.zenclosures.com

I would go for three 10W3V3s.

Technic · 01-28-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VP Electricity

Technic, you have any pics of that enclosure you're testing?

The ID10 is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow... will post pictures after install.

Dackz · 01-28-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The ID10 is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow... will post pictures after install.

I am very interested to see this.

Technic · 01-30-2010, 10:17 AM

VP Electricity's test enclosure with ID10D4V.3 sub...

Details still are being worked out (i.e. carpet color), but sound and integrated-wise this is it. The bass comes loud and clear thru the rear seats bulkhead (no folding rear seats) without being either muffled or overbearing if tuned right; no remote bass volume is used in my system and only half of the max 250W RMS is input.

This is the missing sub bass that the SWS-8 tries to replicate but it just can't by nature. However, by adjusting the SWS-8 more towards the midbass they deliver it tight after this ID10 installation. Perhaps is the capabiliy of my bit one processor to better adjust what the user wants to do but the SWS-8 can deliver strong mid bass. Maybe it will not be as accurate as other dedicated midbass drivers but it really does it quite convincing.

As the trunk space occupied well, see the photos. Low profile, trunk remains usefull, even OEM. The enclosure does not bolt into anything, either snaps tight into that space or tighter with velcro strips in the backside grabbing the trunk carpet side trim.

Lee Rambler · 01-30-2010, 10:33 AM

looks nice

VP Electricity · 01-30-2010, 11:50 AM

Glad to finally get corroboration that this thing works through the seat in E90

Quote:

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Johnny Dangerously

My DC amplifiers have some tuning chops too... I get flat midbass on the RTA, but when I use FFT mode on my RTA, I see some big holes. The SWS8 also has a natural rolloff above 200, so I might try a more gentle lowpass on the top end and see how it helps to let the driver contribute more in the stopband.

kaigoss69 · 01-30-2010, 11:54 AM

What is the internal volume? Did VP make it? What is the group buy price ?

VP Electricity · 01-30-2010, 11:56 AM

We are working out the tooling costs - this one was handmade, but we will be making them in a tool at a pro glass factory. Don't want to take this one into the ditch, so I will most the info soon in a new thread.

One kink is, I don't know that a W6 is gonna fit. What depth is it?

kaigoss69 · 01-30-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VP Electricity

One kink is, I don't know that a W6 is gonna fit. What depth is it?

6.9" vs the ID's 5.5" .....

OC Guy · 08-05-2010, 05:37 PM

Nice install! Reading later.

OC Guy · 08-05-2010, 09:55 PM

How easy is this to pull off when you need to access your battery? You using a lot of slack underneath with banana clips?

pruitt68 · 08-08-2010, 01:37 AM

I had my custom box built by TPLSM3 over on the 1 series addicts forum. Still waiting for it to arrive, but it's a corner box, so I still have access to my entire trunk.

VP Electricity · 08-08-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pruitt68

I had my custom box built by TPLSM3 over on the 1 series addicts forum. Still waiting for it to arrive, but it's a corner box, so I still have access to my entire trunk.

For a sedan?

Windjammer · 08-08-2010, 11:56 AM

I was considering getting the JL StealthBox for the 3-Series sedans until yesterday when I listened to a demo box of the 13TW5 subs. They didn't sound as fluid as the 10W6.

A friend of mine just put a 10W6 powered by a 500/1 in his 135i conv, and it sounds great. Since this thread was started at the beginning of this year, can I assume that you've got your 10W6 and 500/1 installed in your sedan? How is the sound? I may end up doing something very similar.

pruitt68 · 08-09-2010, 06:22 AM

Yes for a sedan....

Windjammer · 08-09-2010, 08:40 AM

Great! I already have a JL Audio 300/2 that I could use to power the 10W6. Will that be enough? or do I need to upgrade to a XD600/1 or HD750/1?

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Technic Lieutenant General 2312 Rep 13,023 Posts Drives: 2021 i3S, 2024 i4 M50 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (18)	VP Electricity's test enclosure with ID10D4V.3 sub... Details still are being worked out (i.e. carpet color), but sound and integrated-wise this is it. The bass comes loud and clear thru the rear seats bulkhead (no folding rear seats) without being either muffled or overbearing if tuned right; no remote bass volume is used in my system and only half of the max 250W RMS is input. This is the missing sub bass that the SWS-8 tries to replicate but it just can't by nature. However, by adjusting the SWS-8 more towards the midbass they deliver it tight after this ID10 installation. Perhaps is the capabiliy of my bit one processor to better adjust what the user wants to do but the SWS-8 can deliver strong mid bass. Maybe it will not be as accurate as other dedicated midbass drivers but it really does it quite convincing. As the trunk space occupied well, see the photos. Low profile, trunk remains usefull, even OEM. The enclosure does not bolt into anything, either snaps tight into that space or tighter with velcro strips in the backside grabbing the trunk carpet side trim.
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Windjammer it's all about the sound 2 Rep 29 Posts Drives: '11 E90 335xi M-Sport 6MT Stg1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Great! I already have a JL Audio 300/2 that I could use to power the 10W6. Will that be enough? or do I need to upgrade to a XD600/1 or HD750/1?
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