New Dyno results V4 maps 2-23

rolling18 · 03-08-2010, 04:10 PM

Fresh of the dyno, though I'd share my results and gather some thoughts..
so fire away!!
Dyno: Dynojet AWD Winpep7
335i 6sp man. 4th gear pulls

Base -HP: 275.93 Tq:300.11

run 1 - 370.68 @ 376.31
run 2 - 367.15 @ 376.36
run 3 - 366.23 @ 376.53
run 4 - 367.67 @ 377.04

gain about 95 hp.. not too bad?

mods: DCI, V4 map 2-23 stg 2 map 2
NO LIMP MODE OR CODES !!!!

Operator has only ran 2 other manual 335

I data logged all runs, and have dyno print outs for each run. (when I figure how to post them (data logs and dyno)

jpsimon · 03-08-2010, 04:17 PM

your only mods were intakes and procede? That's great for so little mods

twinturbopg · 03-08-2010, 04:21 PM

thats awesome!!!!! but are you supposed to be running stage 2 though? I specifically rmr talking with vishnu folks and them saying to turn stage 1 with those mods.....

OpenFlash · 03-08-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinturbopg

thats awesome!!!!! but are you supposed to be running stage 2 though? I specifically rmr talking with vishnu folks and them saying to turn stage 1 with those mods.....

Stg 2 is fine for him. Remember, those map usage suggestions are just that, suggestions. And we are very conservative with our suggestions. But judging by the consistency of the results, the tune could even be made more aggressive.

The truth is, v4 users can usually run 1 (or sometimes even 2) stages higher than v3 users since it has a iron clad grip on boost targeting. Whereas v3, like other traditional piggyback tunes, is subject to boost range variation due to the DME's air intake temp compensations.

OP-- Looks great. Email me the logs/dyno runs and i can host/post them for you. Email is shiv@vishnutuning.com.

Cheers,
Shiv

twinturbopg · 03-08-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Stg 2 is fine for him. Remember, those map usage suggestions are just that, suggestions. And we are very conservative with our suggestions. But judging by the consistency of the results, the tune could even be made more aggressive.

The truth is, v4 users can usually run 1 (or sometimes even 2) stages higher than v3 users since it has a iron clad grip on boost targeting. Whereas v3, like other traditional piggyback tunes, is subject to boost range variation due to the DME's air intake temp compensations.

OP-- Looks great. Email me the logs/dyno runs and i can host/post them for you. Email is shiv@vishnutuning.com.

Cheers,
Shiv

gotcha...so fair to say I should just stick with my stage 1 maps till I upgrade to a V4.

creaminz · 03-08-2010, 04:47 PM

only intake and tune!?? Impressive! I will get on the dyno as soon as I install the ar dp, and meth!

alextremo · 03-08-2010, 04:56 PM

Nice! What were your ignition correction and user torque settings?

happy4nk8er · 03-08-2010, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling18

Fresh of the dyno, though I'd share my results and gather some thoughts..
so fire away!!
Dyno: Dynomax AWD Winpep7
335i 6sp man. 4th gear pulls

Basel -HP: 275.93 Tq:300.11
run 1 - 370.68 @ 376.31
run 2 - 367.15 @ 376.36
run 3 - 366.23 @ 376.53
run 4 - 367.67 @ 377.04

gain about 95 hp.. not too bad?

mods: DCI, V4 map 2-23 stg 2 map 2
NO LIMP MODE OR CODES !!!!

Operator has only ran 2 other manual 335

I data logged all runs, and have dyno print outs for each run. (when I figure how to post them (data logs and dyno)

Did you go to PSI to have it done?

yermo · 03-08-2010, 05:32 PM

what octane?

rolling18 · 03-08-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

your only mods were intakes and procede? That's great for so little mods

yes those were the ONLY mods.
(semi-dirty filters tho)

[QUOTE=twinturbopg;6871937]thats awesome!!!!! but are you supposed to be running stage 2 though? I specifically rmr talking with vishnu folks and them saying to turn stage 1 with those mods....
it seem to like it so far NO problems, even with agressive driving

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick.CBR

Sweet numbers!!

I've been running v4 w/ stage 2 (6AT) since 2-23 came out and zero issues as well! Just have DCI.

Did you do any custom tuning?

Nick

NO problems so ar at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextremo

Nice! What were your ignition correction and user torque settings?

Ignission-200
Tq. 100
(all setting default for map 2 stg 2)

Quote:

Originally Posted by happy4nk8er

Did you go to PSI to have it done?

No I went to a recommended place called "English Racing in Vancouver Wa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yermo

what octane?

Octane- "super" 92 pump

rolling18 · 03-08-2010, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Stg 2 is fine for him. Remember, those map usage suggestions are just that, suggestions. And we are very conservative with our suggestions. But judging by the consistency of the results, the tune could even be made more aggressive.

The truth is, v4 users can usually run 1 (or sometimes even 2) stages higher than v3 users since it has a iron clad grip on boost targeting. Whereas v3, like other traditional piggyback tunes, is subject to boost range variation due to the DME's air intake temp compensations.

OP-- Looks great. Email me the logs/dyno runs and i can host/post them for you. Email is shiv@vishnutuning.com.

Cheers,
Shiv

thanks shiv I will send those at once!
Marc

Papajim · 03-08-2010, 06:08 PM

Shouldn't you dyno your car with 5th gear for a 1:1 gear ratio...?

yandy · 03-08-2010, 06:12 PM

nice numbers, specially for tune + dci only.. cool

Papajim · 03-08-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling18

I dont know.. I heard many use 3rd/ 4th i asked for recommendations b4 I went... silence was abound!:

The differences are not that big, but more realistic i would say...

OpenFlash · 03-08-2010, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papajim

Shouldn't you dyno your car with 5th gear for a 1:1 gear ratio...?

Nope... That is way too tall of a gear. Plus, you'd run into the speed limiter well before the end of the run.

Shiv

Irishace · 03-08-2010, 06:28 PM

Pretty darn impressive numbers there, awesome stuff.

Ilma · 03-08-2010, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [COLOR="Red"

NO problems so ar at all

[/COLOR]

Ignission-200
Tq. 100
(all setting default for map 2 stg 2)

Ignition correction of 200?

I thought 100 was the default correction.

rolling18 · 03-08-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilma

Ignition correction of 200?

I thought 100 was the default correction.

its says 200% i havent changed anything.
i will re-check next time it gets hooked up!! hopfully not for a long time as i am happy with these numbers!

and will wait till the next update Shivman put out with the extra display goodies!!

Ilma · 03-08-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling18

its says 200% i havent changed anything.
i will re-check next time it gets hooked up!! hopfully not for a long time as i am happy with these numbers!

and will wait till the next update Shivman put out with the extra display goodies!!

Hey....if it's working for ya don't mess with it!

But I do think 100% is the default setting.....but IIRC there was a point where some maps were released with 200% as the setting.

No wonder you can run stage 2.....your timing advance is probably reduced enough to compensate.

The proof is in the numbers

OpenFlash · 03-08-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilma

Hey....if it's working for ya don't mess with it!

But I do think 100% is the default setting.....but IIRC there was a point where some maps were released with 200% as the setting.

No wonder you can run stage 2.....your timing advance is probably reduced enough to compensate.

The proof is in the numbers

Actually, the OP is probably running old user software that would effectively double the ignition correction % on the newer maps. Either that, or he's reading the ignition correction % setting without comms between the laptop and the Procede. He is still running the same actual default values as everyone else.

Shiv

kenneth · 03-08-2010, 07:16 PM

95 hp with just DCI is just phenomenal! Am I mistaken to say that with V3 +50 to +60hp might be the max gain with just DCI.

Curious to know what full bolt ons (on pump gas) would achieve with V4........

OpenFlash · 03-08-2010, 07:19 PM

Here are the dyno results:

Actual Uncorrected numbers:

STD corrected numbers:

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kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	95 hp with just DCI is just phenomenal! Am I mistaken to say that with V3 +50 to +60hp might be the max gain with just DCI. Curious to know what full bolt ons (on pump gas) would achieve with V4........ __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
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OpenFlash 1750 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	Here are the dyno results: Actual Uncorrected numbers: STD corrected numbers:
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