[skillz911]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...31&refid=store

[BoostedCosta]

Originally Posted by skillz911

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...31&refid=store

whats so funny about it?
theres a couple of people on the forums with these DPs

[cn555ic]

Wow....they have balls to charge that..

[Schn3ll]

2.5" too. Looks like VK has some stiff competition... Haha

[JoeyFiasco]

same ones 2800 dollars. I think you found a bargain. lol

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

same ones 2800 dollars. I think you found a bargain. lol

[skillz911]

Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

same ones 2800 dollars. I think you found a bargain. lol

wow haha,

From the looks of the pic, the quality on these dont even look as good as some of the dps on the market.

[Mr. 5]

Supersprint makes some very high quality stuff but I don't think they realized that other companies were going to make great DPs for much less.

Let's look and see why the price is so high.
Notice that the pipes are 100% mandrel bent with no welds. This alone demands high dollars.
When Riss Racing first came out with their pipes, they said that the pipes were 100% mandrel bent and then we came to find out that they were 100% mandrel bent pieces that were welded together. They grinded down the welds on the outside and poilshed them to make it look as if it was one piece.
When confronted, they said that 100% mandrel bent would cost a whole bunch more...Hence the reason why SS DPs are so expensive.

Another thing to think about is that they are using the flex joints, which uses the same ideology as the OEM DPs. I'm sure that wasn't cheap either.
The question is, "Do we really need the flex fit in the DPs?"
I personally don't think so because we have so much give throughout the rest of the exhaust.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Supersprint makes some very high quality stuff but I don't think they realized that other companies were going to make great DPs for much less.

Let's look and see why the price is so high.
Notice that the pipes are 100% mandrel bent with no welds. This alone demands high dollars.
When Riss Racing first came out with their pipes, they said that the pipes were 100% mandrel bent and then we came to find out that they were 100% mandrel bent pieces that were welded together. They grinded down the welds on the outside and poilshed them to make it look as if it was one piece.
When confronted, they said that 100% mandrel bent would cost a whole bunch more...Hence the reason why SS DPs are so expensive.

Another thing to think about is that they are using the flex joints, which uses the same ideology as the OEM DPs. I'm sure that wasn't cheap either.
The question is, "Do we really need the flex fit in the DPs?"
I personally don't think so because we have so much give throughout the rest of the exhaust.

I still think 1800 dollars is not anywhere near a fair price...If it was made in platinum then maybe!

[skillz911]

^ Mr.5 Now im seeing a bit of reasoning behind the high cost based on your explanation above.

Thanks,

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by skillz911

^ Mr.5 Now im seeing a bit of reasoning behind the high cost based on your explanation above.

Thanks,

Even with Mr 5 explanation, there is no way why it should cost almost 3x more than the best DPs out there on the market now...plain and simple

[JoeyFiasco]

I'm sure they are trying to recoop the cost of r&d and make their money too, but maybe they over engineered the part? I get what Mr. 5 is saying, they do offer a somewhat unique set of features here. But are these features worth it? like previously mentioned, other companies are able to provide quality products for much less.

[JoeyFiasco]

Originally Posted by skillz911

^ Mr.5 Now im seeing a bit of reasoning behind the high cost based on your explanation above.

Thanks,

there certainly is but is supersprint paying attention to the market and what else is available to us?

[enrita]

Supersprint is a big player into full exhaust products. They have a reputation and dont need to follow other companies pricing because of their name and quality.
They do exhaust for ALL cars . Dont think it matters for them if they sell 10 Dps or 100 Dps for the 335i.

[JoeyFiasco]

Originally Posted by enrita

Supersprint is a big player into full exhaust products. They have a reputation and dont need to follow other companies pricing because of their name and quality.
They do exhaust for ALL cars . Dont think it matters for them if they sell 10 Dps or 100 Dps for the 335i.

they don't care what else is on the market or how much they sell? maybe you're right, maybe the low volume of sales in bmw parts is inconsequencial for them as a whole i don't know. i'm not a businessman but that doesn't seem like a good business practice because they can't branch out and diversify.

[Mr. 5]

Remember also you guys that they were the first company to come on the market with these LONG before everyone else.
Its kind of like the GruppeM intake.
that thing has been out for years.
Is it worth it? No but you can see the detail, work, and R&D that went into something like that.

[Ferre86]

personally i do not prefer SS company of their any product they make out there , seems to me not quality and not the best for that price..

i want to edit that, around world too many 3.35 members use that SS products , if they are not familier with forums and such, also most of the modify shops offers that SS nothing else non american continents.. good way to make huge amount of money. i have been faced that alot here..

[alextremo]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Another thing to think about is that they are using the flex joints, which uses the same ideology as the OEM DPs. I'm sure that wasn't cheap either.
The question is, "Do we really need the flex fit in the DPs?"
I personally don't think so because we have so much give throughout the rest of the exhaust.

I was wondering this too (before this thread) wouldn't you be able to weld in a couple of these?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PSM-82-4218/

Seems pretty low cost to me.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Another thing to think about is that they are using the flex joints, which uses the same ideology as the OEM DPs. I'm sure that wasn't cheap either.

Where do you see flex joints ?

http://www.supersprint.com/eng/SPP2000000980211.asp

If those things with bolts on the downpipes are flex joints, I don't understand how those work, can someone explain ?

Also, the downpipes are not 100% mandrel bent, you can see the welds !

[cn555ic]

I think they have it near the bolts. It appears to be some loaed spring mechanism of some sort

[Tiago@VRSF]

The flange uses a donut style gasket and the bolts are spring loaded to allow slight movement. It's not necessary but it does add some extra flex.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by alextremo

I was wondering this too (before this thread) wouldn't you be able to weld in a couple of these?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PSM-82-4218/

Seems pretty low cost to me.

Those are not the type of joints needed in the N54 downpipes. Those protect against horizontal rotation, not vertical rotation (which is what's happening in the I6 engine). You need accordion flex joints.