BMS intake is the cause of my rough cold starts says SA

AlpineG05 · 03-23-2010, 12:49 PM

My sa just called saying my bms intake is the cause of my rough cold starts according to a bulletin released by BMW na. I like how they previously replaced a hpfp injectors and plugs with the intake on but now all of a sudden the intake is the problem. Dude is full of shit and he better not call me back denying warranty work because it'll be WW3 up in there.

What do you guys think does he have a valid point?

stealth-twntrbo · 03-23-2010, 01:11 PM

No thats stupid, its your intake is not causing it to have rough cold starts thats extremely highly unlikely. He is just using that as an excuse.

bspaceman · 03-23-2010, 09:12 PM

Total crap. I'd love to see the bulletin he is referring to.

More importantly, why on earth would you leave any aftermarket parts on your car when taking it into the dealer???? Even if your dealer seems cool with your installs, when it comes time to start denying work orders, it only takes a finger to point in the wrong direction, and you are usually on the losing end when the fist soon follows....Good luck!

hitster · 03-23-2010, 09:26 PM

Mine is at the dealer right now, they previously hinted at the afe dci I had in there as being a possible reason as to why the car was ticking upon start up. So I took it out and gave the car in this way giving them less to point at, lets see what they say tomorrow..

Oh I forgot to add the charge valve snapped away from the intake manifold (have no idea how), I just played stupid and did not mention anything other than a half engine light which comes on.

Problem is the previous times the car has gone in they have known the car had the Afe DCI installed, now technically its removed, back to complete stock, unless they have pictures of it previously in their hands I really do not think they can prove otherwise. I would love to know what they have on file for me, i.e) whether "customer had air intake" and so forth...

My advice is take out the BMS and take it to another dealer.... I was told they cannot read each others notes... unless of course this is untrue??

AlpineG05 · 03-23-2010, 11:48 PM

I asked to view the bulletin and my sa said it was classified so I responded with that's impossible I've seen several bulletins on the net.

ianbiz · 03-24-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine 335i

I asked to view the bulletin and my sa said it was classified so I responded with that's impossible I've seen several bulletins on the net.

ask him for the SB number

take out the intake, put the stock one in, head back to dealer.

ianbiz · 03-24-2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpine 335i

I asked to view the bulletin and my sa said it was classified so I responded with that's impossible I've seen several bulletins on the net.

ask him for the SB number

take out the intake, put the stock one in, head back to dealer.

AlpineG05 · 03-24-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

ask him for the SB number

take out the intake, put the stock one in, head back to dealer.

Yeah I know I'll be taking it back next week to see what bullshit lie they make up now.

bspaceman · 03-24-2010, 01:17 PM

LMAO!!! Classified? Is he frickin serious? What an ass hat.

Take it to another dealer. This guy doesn't want your business.

hitster · 03-24-2010, 03:49 PM

I got an update on mine today, theyve got it all taken apart and they are saying the Turbo's may need to be replaced LOL, I was like erm ok, replace as you wish, just make sure it all goes back the way it came and it works and I have no bill

Willizm · 03-24-2010, 03:51 PM

I really don't get why a dealer would deny service. correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the dealership get paid to work on warrenty cars from BMW? If that logic is true then I'd service a turd with a new hpfp as long as if I got paid from BMW to do it.

Syndicategt · 03-24-2010, 03:52 PM

I'm gonna have to agree with BMW here. I think they have a valid point if you brought your car in with an aftermarket intake. The rough starts a probably due to HPFP or injectors but giving the fact you came in with probably the #1 most noticable warranty denying product, you just gave them an excuse to not help you. The intake takes a matter of minutes to swap out back to stock, I can understand if you went in with DP's on, but an intake . . . . I just hope for your sake, they do not flag your car for future warranty work done to your engine.

Dan335i · 03-24-2010, 06:54 PM

My car starts and runs perfect with my BMS DCI.

cn555ic · 03-24-2010, 07:00 PM

If it's not his intake, they will say it's another thing since he brought in his car pretty modded. His dps will be the next thing they say that's causing the problem

03-23-2010, 12:49 PM	#1
AlpineG05 hi 129 Rep 1,140 Posts Drives: Alpine White G05 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bakersfield, Cali iTrader: (1)	BMS intake is the cause of my rough cold starts says SA My sa just called saying my bms intake is the cause of my rough cold starts according to a bulletin released by BMW na. I like how they previously replaced a hpfp injectors and plugs with the intake on but now all of a sudden the intake is the problem. Dude is full of shit and he better not call me back denying warranty work because it'll be WW3 up in there. What do you guys think does he have a valid point? __________________ 2022 M Sport G05 Jb4, CTS catless dp, M performance exhaust, bms intake, IND goodies, Maxton kit
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stealth-twntrbo Captain 139 Rep 717 Posts Drives: 2020 740xi Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NA iTrader: (3)	No thats stupid, its your intake is not causing it to have rough cold starts thats extremely highly unlikely. He is just using that as an excuse.
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03-23-2010, 09:12 PM	#3
bspaceman The Last Beautiful Free Soul On This Planet 15 Rep 627 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335i coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cedar Park, TX iTrader: (2)	Total crap. I'd love to see the bulletin he is referring to. More importantly, why on earth would you leave any aftermarket parts on your car when taking it into the dealer???? Even if your dealer seems cool with your installs, when it comes time to start denying work orders, it only takes a finger to point in the wrong direction, and you are usually on the losing end when the fist soon follows....Good luck! __________________ Jet Black/Black Leather 335i coupe (totaled courtesy of the pizza kid Sport/Premi/Comft/Nav - iDrive/Sirius/iPod/OEM Body kit, M Sideskirts, M deck lip, Miro 366s on Nitto 555 NTs, Matte Black Grills, Valentine 1 hardwire, 35% tint, BMS Lighting, BMS computer magic, BMS Dual Cone
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03-23-2010, 09:26 PM	#4
hitster Petrolhead 5 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 2018 X5M Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	Mine is at the dealer right now, they previously hinted at the afe dci I had in there as being a possible reason as to why the car was ticking upon start up. So I took it out and gave the car in this way giving them less to point at, lets see what they say tomorrow.. Oh I forgot to add the charge valve snapped away from the intake manifold (have no idea how), I just played stupid and did not mention anything other than a half engine light which comes on. Problem is the previous times the car has gone in they have known the car had the Afe DCI installed, now technically its removed, back to complete stock, unless they have pictures of it previously in their hands I really do not think they can prove otherwise. I would love to know what they have on file for me, i.e) whether "customer had air intake" and so forth... My advice is take out the BMS and take it to another dealer.... I was told they cannot read each others notes... unless of course this is untrue??
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03-23-2010, 11:48 PM	#5
AlpineG05 hi 129 Rep 1,140 Posts Drives: Alpine White G05 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bakersfield, Cali iTrader: (1)	I asked to view the bulletin and my sa said it was classified so I responded with that's impossible I've seen several bulletins on the net. __________________ 2022 M Sport G05 Jb4, CTS catless dp, M performance exhaust, bms intake, IND goodies, Maxton kit
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03-24-2010, 01:17 PM	#9
bspaceman The Last Beautiful Free Soul On This Planet 15 Rep 627 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335i coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cedar Park, TX iTrader: (2)	LMAO!!! Classified? Is he frickin serious? What an ass hat. Take it to another dealer. This guy doesn't want your business. __________________ Jet Black/Black Leather 335i coupe (totaled courtesy of the pizza kid Sport/Premi/Comft/Nav - iDrive/Sirius/iPod/OEM Body kit, M Sideskirts, M deck lip, Miro 366s on Nitto 555 NTs, Matte Black Grills, Valentine 1 hardwire, 35% tint, BMS Lighting, BMS computer magic, BMS Dual Cone
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hitster Petrolhead 5 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 2018 X5M Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I got an update on mine today, theyve got it all taken apart and they are saying the Turbo's may need to be replaced LOL, I was like erm ok, replace as you wish, just make sure it all goes back the way it came and it works and I have no bill
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03-24-2010, 03:51 PM	#11
Willizm Captain 24 Rep 610 Posts Drives: 2009 335Xi and 01 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Joliet, Il iTrader: (0)	I really don't get why a dealer would deny service. correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the dealership get paid to work on warrenty cars from BMW? If that logic is true then I'd service a turd with a new hpfp as long as if I got paid from BMW to do it.
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03-24-2010, 03:52 PM	#12
Syndicategt Brigadier General 156 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	I'm gonna have to agree with BMW here. I think they have a valid point if you brought your car in with an aftermarket intake. The rough starts a probably due to HPFP or injectors but giving the fact you came in with probably the #1 most noticable warranty denying product, you just gave them an excuse to not help you. The intake takes a matter of minutes to swap out back to stock, I can understand if you went in with DP's on, but an intake . . . . I just hope for your sake, they do not flag your car for future warranty work done to your engine. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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03-24-2010, 06:54 PM	#13
Dan335i Lieutenant Colonel 32 Rep 1,786 Posts Drives: 07 335i coupe 6MT,w/sp. pack. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: orange county NY iTrader: (2)	My car starts and runs perfect with my BMS DCI.
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03-24-2010, 07:00 PM	#14
cn555ic 442 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	If it's not his intake, they will say it's another thing since he brought in his car pretty modded. His dps will be the next thing they say that's causing the problem
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