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      04-11-2010, 07:33 AM   #1
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OK, I really want JB3 2.0, BUT........

I have an 12/06 build 07 335i

as many of you know, I dont have stock oil cooler. I am completely stock other wise. I live in MD so I have access to 93 octane.

What supporting mods do I have to purchase?

Do i need Down pipes?
Inter cooler
oil cooler
etc....
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      04-11-2010, 07:59 AM   #2
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To get the best out Of a tune, jb 2.0 in this case you Will need an aftermarket fmic, catless dp's, dual cones or cai, catback exhaust....And Of course an oilcooler...Over and out..
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you could just run map 3 if you want to remain stock but to get the full utility out of the tune, you would want to have the supporting mods
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      04-11-2010, 08:17 AM   #4
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I have an 12/06 build 07 335i

as many of you know, I dont have stock oil cooler. I am completely stock other wise. I live in MD so I have access to 93 octane.

What supporting mods do I have to purchase?

Do i need Down pipes?
Inter cooler
oil cooler
etc....
I have the same as you a 07 with no oil cooler. I am running a JB3 on map 4 and a BMS dci and oil temps are ok for me. The car runs great and I have never had an issue. Just do it. you will be very happy you did..
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I have an 12/06 build 07 335i

as many of you know, I dont have stock oil cooler. I am completely stock other wise. I live in MD so I have access to 93 octane.

What supporting mods do I have to purchase?

Do i need Down pipes?
Inter cooler
oil cooler
etc....
CP-E performance is in Maryland. They just released an inter-cooler that comes with an oil cooler. I think the standard is that it works with the stock intercooler, but you should give them a call and see if they can retrofit it for a car without the stock oil cooler. You could knock out two birds with one stone. CP-E has a great reputation.

Here is a review of their intercooler w/ oil cooler.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372527

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I have the same as you a 07 with no oil cooler. I am running a JB3 on map 4 and a BMS dci and oil temps are ok for me. The car runs great and I have never had an issue. Just do it. you will be very happy you did..
how long have you been tuned? I want to do this soo bad. I need to stop being a puss and just get it....lol
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how long have you been tuned? I want to do this soo bad. I need to stop being a puss and just get it....lol
Just do it!! You Will not regret it!!!
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You really dont need any supporting mods to run the JB3. Many members on this forum are running it without a oil cooler.

To get the best power out of the tune of course supporting mods are always best.

The driving experience completely changes.
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I have an 12/06 build 07 335i

as many of you know, I dont have stock oil cooler. I am completely stock other wise. I live in MD so I have access to 93 octane.

What supporting mods do I have to purchase?

Do i need Down pipes?
Inter cooler
oil cooler
etc....
Does my car have the stock intercooler?
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      04-11-2010, 10:33 AM   #10
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Does my car have the stock intercooler?
Yes it does, but it's garbage compared to stuff in the aftermarket.
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      04-11-2010, 12:48 PM   #11
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To get the best out Of a tune, jb 2.0 in this case you Will need an aftermarket fmic, catless dp's, dual cones or cai, catback exhaust....And Of course an oilcooler...Over and out..
Not true.
It all depends on what MAP you want to run. The higher the map the more supporting mods you'll need. Stick to map 3 or 5 and you'll be fine on an otherwise stock car with 93 oct.

edit: Forgot to mention that my buddy also has an 07' build with no oil cooler. He runs map 5(2.0) daily with cali 91 oct. He has no mods.

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Unless you track your car heavily, you will have no issues running the JB3 on map 3 without a intercooler, don't let this be a deterrent.
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Get the cp-e IC/OC option. You'll knock out two concerns you have and your car will thank you for it. You live in MD so they'd be convenient and, I know, are looking for a car w/o the stock oil cooler to make the cp-e OC work for guys in your situation.
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      04-11-2010, 02:26 PM   #14
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I don't have any oil cooler and my oil temps never went pass 250, or whatever is in the center of the gauge. I run map 7 on the jb3 2.0 and have dci, catback exhaust and run 93 octane and have never once experienced a problem (knock on wood). And I run the car pretty hard once in a while.

I honestly don't think you'll need an oil cooler unless you're planning on tracking your car.

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i have an 07 no oil cooler... im running map 7 with dci and 93 octane....runs perfect... my temps run two dashes after half way and always have even before jb3... bmw says thats normal for an automatic with no oil cooler..
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My car is exactly like yours 12/07 build, no oil cooler, had a JB+ for 20k miles and now have a JB3 with no problems at all.. no temperature induced limp modes... all good.

Don't make a thread telling us how much your pu$$y hurts... just do it...you won't regret it...
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i have an 07 no oil cooler... im running map 7 with dci and 93 octane....runs perfect... my temps run two dashes after half way and always have even before jb3... bmw says thats normal for an automatic with no oil cooler..
+1

I was running on map 7 at one point on a 100% stock engine,airbox etc.
93 octane.
Car ran flawless.

Obviously if you want to maximize your performance you'll want some supporting mods..dci..downpipes..fmic..etc.
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07 with factory oil cooler. Running JB3 2.0 on Map 5, 93 octane, everything else stock. No problems at all.
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how long have you been tuned? I want to do this soo bad. I need to stop being a puss and just get it....lol
Do it.... Just do it!!!!
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Yes it does, but it's garbage compared to stuff in the aftermarket.
stock fmic isnt that bad if u are running stock boost...only struggles when u start pushing the car past stock settings.
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Im pretty sure Terry's ( BMS) 335i didnt have an oil cooler and it was fine. Before my dealer retroffited one on mine I was tuned and NEVER had any issues. go for it.
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Im pretty sure Terry's ( BMS) 335i didnt have an oil cooler and it was fine. Before my dealer retroffited one on mine I was tuned and NEVER had any issues. go for it.
My 07 335i ran 11's tune only. No oil cooler. Quite frankly, I really didn't notice much diffrence in the 08 with the oil cooler. It definitely isn't an issue at the drag strip. Only sustained hard driving in higher temps, etc.
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