help 335d loss of power

Ciao · 05-04-2010, 03:01 PM

Hi ppl. Been having a persistent problem with my car.
As soon as i start it up sounds fine no warning lights, but when i drive off there is a serious lack of power.
When i go to floor it it just ignores me and acts like a slug.
Happens on and off.
Any ideas what this could be and how much the stealer will charge to fix??

dxb335d · 05-04-2010, 03:03 PM

Checked all your hoses? Sounds like a boost hose has come off???

Not limp mode? or is it permanently like this? Have you even looked under the bonnet yet?

Any waRNING lights?

willhollin · 05-04-2010, 03:04 PM

Is it a rebadged 318d?

mikeysix · 05-04-2010, 03:15 PM

Have u let the handbrake off?

Ciao · 05-04-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Checked all your hoses? Sounds like a boost hose has come off???

Not limp mode? or is it permanently like this? Have you even looked under the bonnet yet?

Any waRNING lights?

It used to be intermittent. Its constant now.
Which hose?
Had a look but too complex for me hehe

Ciao · 05-04-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by willhollin

Is it a rebadged 318d?

No rebadge 316i with dual pipes and a 335d badge on

robrob · 05-04-2010, 03:52 PM

I had it intermittently on my old E46 330cd - never resolved, and no fault codes ever showed up on the diagnostics come service time.

I have had an E90335d from new since Feb 07 and have had 2 major power losses recently. Oct last year, and Feb this year. Both times the symptoms were sudden loss of boost power. I could still make progress (as fast as I wanted) as long as I didn't mind taking a week to get there. There was no turbo kick in at any point. In city driving, it was no major issue - but when acceleration was needed, it was glacial.

Both times it was a valve in one of the turbos. In both cases, diagnosis took 2 days and involved a fairly major strip down of the engine (apparently!) to get to the relevant area. First time, it was under warranty. Second time, under extended warranty. They tried to charge me £700 until I pointed out I had the extended warranty. The bulk of that charge was the time spent finding the fault (even though I explained it was identical to the last fault and even suggested they should order the valve in advance). They ignored me, told me the turbos were very complex, then admitted it was the same valve, ordered the wrong one in, made me wait another two days, and I finally got my car back.

If it goes again, it's trade in time. Each time, the car was in the dealer's workshop for a week.

Should have added - no warning lights appeared in either case.

milesr3 · 05-05-2010, 02:53 AM

I also had a seized turbo valve in my 535d which effectively stopped the small turbo from working. The car had no power at all below about 2,500rpm where the large turbo started to work. There were no fault codes or dash warnings. The dealer replaced the front section of the turbo manifold (furthest right-hand piece in attached picture) under warranty as well as a few other things like the vacuum pump.

My car is doing something similar again now, although intermittently and is back with the dealer. It's quite a common problem on the x35d engines from what I've seen.

milesr3 · 05-05-2010, 02:56 AM

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If it goes again, it's trade in time.

I think mine has gone again and co-incidentally I test drove a Lexus GS450h at the weekend. I would have swapped if they'd made me a better offer.

craig2859 · 05-05-2010, 07:13 AM

I had the exact same problem ..... it was a Boost hose that had loosened of, and eventually fell of at one end, hence the progression of lack of power, and then none at all.

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Ciao · 05-05-2010, 08:45 AM

My warranty has finished. Would BMW repair this under goodwill. Seems like alot of ppl are having this problem

robrob · 05-05-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciao

My warranty has finished. Would BMW repair this under goodwill. Seems like alot of ppl are having this problem

I suspect not. However, the bulk of the cost in my case (both times) was the time spent identifying the fault. i.e. labour. I can't imagine the valve is expensive (if that's the fault in your case), but getting access to it to diagnose and repair is.

craig2859 · 05-05-2010, 04:37 PM

If its just a boost hose like mine, it was a 5 min job and done at no cost at my garage (non BMW)

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lolololol · 06-20-2012, 02:56 AM

My car is having the boost hose changed under goodwill tomorrow - I'm out of warranty but it's only done 24k.

dmt335d · 06-20-2012, 04:10 AM

I've got mine booked in again for a similar problem. I had the red boost hose changed last year as it was leaking oil, now the seals have been done too. I had to pay the £100 excess both times as it was a different problem......

Whilst in the garage they noticed that it was low on power until the second turbo kicked in. TBH I'd not really noticed the problem myself but yesterday it was quite apparently when acceleration from low revs.

I'm not sure if they disturbed something but they've booked it in for two days. We'll see what they find.

I should probably take the remap off.

Bat21 · 12-31-2014, 11:57 AM

Had the same happen to my 2007 335d this week.

A £610 bill to replace the turbo valves and my comprehensive BMW warranty that I have been paying £730 per year for refuses to cover the bill.

Apparently my car has a 'modified engine' whatever that is

my dealer can not tell me what it is that has been modified but as it is showing up on their diagnostics the warranty company are saying 'go do one'.... to say I'm a little pished off is an understatement.

rabbit3110 · 12-24-2017, 05:55 AM

Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I'm pretty new to this so apologies in advance but I will try my best to explain...

I've had my 335D since 2013 and it's been amazing.. had it remapped a week after I bought it and had no major issues apart from 2 years ago I lost power all of a sudden on low revs and got my friend (BMW Tech) to replace all the pipes as they had perished. Once that was done no issues until last Tue ?.

I was driving about about 30mph and then decided to put my foot down as road was clear and it went off like a rocket and then all of a sudden I heard something (which I can only describe a kind of pop but I can't be sure) and then I lost all power and the Increased Emissions warning light came on straight away. I continued to drive for about 15mins more and then the Particle Filter warning light also came up on the console.

I had to drive the car for 2 days and it was juddering around badly and then all of a sudden on the drive up to my techs it started to respond a bit better (like something was stuck in your throat and it had cleared).

The car has been with my tech since last week, he has check all the hoses which all seem to be ok and he managed to get the power back yesterday and then attempted a regeneration and it went again. He is pretty stumped at the moment and doesn't think the turbo is gone and car is not smoking at all and started well but just no power.

It's worth while adding that I also had vehicle check and oil service few weeks back without any issues.

Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

rasa bmw · 12-24-2017, 07:36 AM

just sounds like the dpf to me

rabbit3110 · 12-24-2017, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rasa bmw

just sounds like the dpf to me

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasa bmw

just sounds like the dpf to me

Thanks mate, is that a massive and expensive job?

I've heard that to replace can be expensive but I do regularly do good runs on the car to stop any blockages but also heard if you remove the DPF it will cause issues when comes to MOT?

rasa bmw · 12-24-2017, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit3110

Thanks mate, is that a massive and expensive job?

I've heard that to replace can be expensive but I do regularly do good runs on the car to stop any blockages but also heard if you remove the DPF it will cause issues when comes to MOT?

yeh thats fine,,but are your glow plugs/module and thermostats all up to scratch.it will not get to temp to regen.

rabbit3110 · 12-24-2017, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasa bmw

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit3110

Thanks mate, is that a massive and expensive job?

I've heard that to replace can be expensive but I do regularly do good runs on the car to stop any blockages but also heard if you remove the DPF it will cause issues when comes to MOT?

yeh thats fine,,but are your glow plugs/module and thermostats all up to scratch.it will not get to temp to regen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasa bmw

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit3110

Thanks mate, is that a massive and expensive job?

I've heard that to replace can be expensive but I do regularly do good runs on the car to stop any blockages but also heard if you remove the DPF it will cause issues when comes to MOT?

yeh thats fine,,but are your glow plugs/module and thermostats all up to scratch.it will not get to temp to regen.

Good question don't know, will feed this info to my tech.

Is DPF replacement and or removal costly? Are there any implications?

mayhs · 12-24-2017, 04:29 PM

Not too experienced with the 335, but I had something similar on my 330d. Start up was fine, but went to put my foot down and the car refused to rev. Was a bit dangerous in heavy traffic as it was difficult to get the car over 40mph without a bit of a build up. Restarted the car and it went away only to return after a few mins of driving.

Had the codes read and it turned out to be the MAF sensor. Since that car had a lot of miles on it I decided to replace rather than try to clean it.

After the replacement car was back to normal...worth a check...

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robrob Private 1 Rep 68 Posts Drives: 330xd M Sport LCI Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scotland, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 E90 335d M Sport [0.00]	I had it intermittently on my old E46 330cd - never resolved, and no fault codes ever showed up on the diagnostics come service time. I have had an E90335d from new since Feb 07 and have had 2 major power losses recently. Oct last year, and Feb this year. Both times the symptoms were sudden loss of boost power. I could still make progress (as fast as I wanted) as long as I didn't mind taking a week to get there. There was no turbo kick in at any point. In city driving, it was no major issue - but when acceleration was needed, it was glacial. Both times it was a valve in one of the turbos. In both cases, diagnosis took 2 days and involved a fairly major strip down of the engine (apparently!) to get to the relevant area. First time, it was under warranty. Second time, under extended warranty. They tried to charge me £700 until I pointed out I had the extended warranty. The bulk of that charge was the time spent finding the fault (even though I explained it was identical to the last fault and even suggested they should order the valve in advance). They ignored me, told me the turbos were very complex, then admitted it was the same valve, ordered the wrong one in, made me wait another two days, and I finally got my car back. If it goes again, it's trade in time. Each time, the car was in the dealer's workshop for a week. Should have added - no warning lights appeared in either case. Last edited by robrob; 05-04-2010 at 03:56 PM.. Reason: Forgetfulness
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milesr3 Private First Class 10 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 535d SE Join Date: May 2009 Location: Suffolk, UK. iTrader: (0)	I also had a seized turbo valve in my 535d which effectively stopped the small turbo from working. The car had no power at all below about 2,500rpm where the large turbo started to work. There were no fault codes or dash warnings. The dealer replaced the front section of the turbo manifold (furthest right-hand piece in attached picture) under warranty as well as a few other things like the vacuum pump. My car is doing something similar again now, although intermittently and is back with the dealer. It's quite a common problem on the x35d engines from what I've seen. Attached Images
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dmt335d Private 5 Rep 79 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 BMW 335d [0.00]	I've got mine booked in again for a similar problem. I had the red boost hose changed last year as it was leaking oil, now the seals have been done too. I had to pay the £100 excess both times as it was a different problem...... Whilst in the garage they noticed that it was low on power until the second turbo kicked in. TBH I'd not really noticed the problem myself but yesterday it was quite apparently when acceleration from low revs. I'm not sure if they disturbed something but they've booked it in for two days. We'll see what they find. I should probably take the remap off. __________________ 2006 335d M Sport. Recently Detailed
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Bat21 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: E90 335d Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Had the same happen to my 2007 335d this week. A £610 bill to replace the turbo valves and my comprehensive BMW warranty that I have been paying £730 per year for refuses to cover the bill. Apparently my car has a 'modified engine' whatever that is my dealer can not tell me what it is that has been modified but as it is showing up on their diagnostics the warranty company are saying 'go do one'.... to say I'm a little pished off is an understatement.
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12-24-2017, 05:55 AM	#17
rabbit3110 New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: BMW 325i SE Saloon (E90 - 55) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Hi Everyone, Firstly, I'm pretty new to this so apologies in advance but I will try my best to explain... I've had my 335D since 2013 and it's been amazing.. had it remapped a week after I bought it and had no major issues apart from 2 years ago I lost power all of a sudden on low revs and got my friend (BMW Tech) to replace all the pipes as they had perished. Once that was done no issues until last Tue ?. I was driving about about 30mph and then decided to put my foot down as road was clear and it went off like a rocket and then all of a sudden I heard something (which I can only describe a kind of pop but I can't be sure) and then I lost all power and the Increased Emissions warning light came on straight away. I continued to drive for about 15mins more and then the Particle Filter warning light also came up on the console. I had to drive the car for 2 days and it was juddering around badly and then all of a sudden on the drive up to my techs it started to respond a bit better (like something was stuck in your throat and it had cleared). The car has been with my tech since last week, he has check all the hoses which all seem to be ok and he managed to get the power back yesterday and then attempted a regeneration and it went again. He is pretty stumped at the moment and doesn't think the turbo is gone and car is not smoking at all and started well but just no power. It's worth while adding that I also had vehicle check and oil service few weeks back without any issues. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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mayhs Private 19 Rep 74 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW E90 330d M-Sport Join Date: May 2014 Location: Midlands, UK iTrader: (0)	Not too experienced with the 335, but I had something similar on my 330d. Start up was fine, but went to put my foot down and the car refused to rev. Was a bit dangerous in heavy traffic as it was difficult to get the car over 40mph without a bit of a build up. Restarted the car and it went away only to return after a few mins of driving. Had the codes read and it turned out to be the MAF sensor. Since that car had a lot of miles on it I decided to replace rather than try to clean it. After the replacement car was back to normal...worth a check...
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