finally replaced faulty HPFP

peanuboy · 05-18-2010, 07:44 PM

so my car was acting up again this past weekend, rough start and idling, it's been like that since Sep of last year but this time, the fuel pump failure icon finally appeared on the trip computer....

took it into Endras 7am Monday morning and they were able to hook me up with a SX4 rental and send me on my way to work

got a call around 4pm and told me they replaced the faulty HPFP, software updated and test drive was done

It has been for almost half a year and I can finally sleep at night....

Blackout335i · 05-18-2010, 08:26 PM

going through this myself right now. cars been running rough for the last month and finally packed in yesterday. Hope this is a long term fix....

peanuboy · 05-19-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat

I wouldn't get too comfy...

sounds like I need to stock up on HPFPs for future consideration

Nikos335i · 05-19-2010, 09:35 AM

Just curious got mine replaced last week as well.

The car doesn't always idle smoothly after the new HPFP and software update, seems like a slight blip of the throttle once in a while or the opposite on occasion, not as smooth as I would like it to be after the new HPFP.

Anyone else with the same behavior?

Chiggy · 05-19-2010, 09:46 AM

What mileage are you guys seeing this problem at? So many HPFP replacements they should just do a recall.

Nikos335i · 05-19-2010, 10:14 AM

I'm at 53K. No prior warning in my case compared to others. No long cranking, etc I was driving along and the reduced power code came on.

sathees siva · 05-19-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikos335i

Just curious got mine replaced last week as well.

The car doesn't always idle smoothly after the new HPFP and software update, seems like a slight blip of the throttle once in a while or the opposite on occasion, not as smooth as I would like it to be after the new HPFP.

Anyone else with the same behavior?

I am currently experiencing the same issue now.

I had my HPFP replaced at 42K. I have 52K on the car now.

Nikos335i · 05-19-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sathees siva

I am currently experiencing the same issue now.

I had my HPFP replaced at 42K. I have 52K on the car now.

Glad to hear

! BMW

Was hoping there was something else possibly wrong that was causing this!!! I received my Procede V4 during the HPFP fiasco and still use it as a paper weight do to the iddling issue!

I was initially told by dealership that it would go away (had noticed it the minute I got the car back) after the learn period since they updated the software. Eventhough it is better compared to beginning it is still not as smooth as one would expect.

sathees siva · 05-19-2010, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikos335i

Glad to hear

! BMW

Was hoping there was something else possibly wrong that was causing this!!! I received my Procede V4 during the HPFP fiasco and still use it as a paper weight do to the iddling issue!

I was initially told by dealership that it would go away (had noticed it the minute I got the car back) after the learn period since they updated the software. Eventhough it is better compared to beginning it is still not as smooth as one would expect.

I am taking the car into the dealership on May 26th. I will update the thread again.

peanuboy · 05-19-2010, 12:11 PM

I haven't noticed anything weird while driving so far, I've only gotten my car back for a day so will see... my car is now sitting at just over 40k and this problem creeped up last Sep, car had maybe low 30K back then

I've gotten my JB3 more than a mth ago and it's still sitting in my garage, not sure if I wanna put it in...

Pylon · 05-19-2010, 12:41 PM

A mere 10,000 kms on my car. Car is at the dealership right now getting the HPFP changed. Used Shell 91 Octane only, never past half a tank. Didn't help.

bulldog_yyc · 05-19-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikos335i

Glad to hear

! BMW

Was hoping there was something else possibly wrong that was causing this!!! I received my Procede V4 during the HPFP fiasco and still use it as a paper weight do to the iddling issue!

I was initially told by dealership that it would go away (had noticed it the minute I got the car back) after the learn period since they updated the software. Eventhough it is better compared to beginning it is still not as smooth as one would expect.

if you have the BT cable, try an ECU reset...

sathees siva · 05-19-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turkish335

if you have the BT cable, try an ECU reset...

ECU Reset ? How do you do that ?

bulldog_yyc · 05-19-2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sathees siva

ECU Reset ? How do you do that ?

its under the commands section for the ECU module, note this may have adverse effects for AT cars, as indicated by the corresponding note in the BT program

m-technik · 05-19-2010, 07:42 PM

I hadnt started my car for a week and when i started it up this morning it had a long crank and kind of sputtered for the first few minutes of driving. I had my HPFP replaced under a recall about 15,000kms ago with no problems. Is this a sign of impending failure?

peanuboy · 05-19-2010, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m-technik

I hadnt started my car for a week and when i started it up this morning it had a long crank and kind of sputtered for the first few minutes of driving. I had my HPFP replaced under a recall about 15,000kms ago with no problems. Is this a sign of impending failure?

that's what I had for 6+mths before they put in the new HPFP this past Monday

Blackout335i · 05-21-2010, 08:52 AM

So go the car back from the dealer and they did not replace the fuel pump. Reprogrammed the fuel management software, wonder how long this is going to last

Nikos335i · 05-21-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackout335i

So go the car back from the dealer and they did not replace the fuel pump. Reprogrammed the fuel management software, wonder how long this is going to last

Lasted 5 days for me!!!

EastYorkF80 · 05-21-2010, 03:43 PM

My HPFP was just replaced today at 46K. According to the invoice, Parkview replaced the software, then let the car sit overnight. The problem (rough idle, longer than normal crank time) was still present, so they replaced the HPFP with part 13-51-7-594-943. Additionally, the invoice mentions "REPLACED HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AS PER PUMA MEASURE #29789968-06". I suspect this means something like "only replace the HPFP after software upgrade doesn't solve the issue".

BBDC5 · 05-21-2010, 08:57 PM

Parkview replaced my HPFP today as well. I have the same part number (13-51-7-594-943) but did not have "REPLACED HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AS PER PUMA MEASURE #29789968-06". The SA told me to stay away from SUNOCO 94 and start to use ESSO 91 or Petro 91. Or should I use Shell 91?

BTW, the HPFP was replaced at 24K.

Nikos335i · 05-21-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The fuel does not seem to matter despite what BMW and the dealers tell customers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBDC5

Parkview replaced my HPFP today as well. I have the same part number (13-51-7-594-943) but did not have "REPLACED HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AS PER PUMA MEASURE #29789968-06". The SA told me to stay away from SUNOCO 94 and start to use ESSO 91 or Petro 91. Or should I use Shell 91?

BTW, the HPFP was replaced at 24K.

Agred as I have been using Esso gas I would say 75% of time!

Shaz · 05-22-2010, 09:21 AM

I was driving back from school on the HWY and since the road was pretty clear, I put my car into sports mode and floored it up to about 100 mph. All of a sudden I got a engine symbol on my dash and on the idrive. Said "Engine Malfunction, reduced power." and also engine service soon light came on as well. Once I put my car into Park, the whole car started shaking pretty violently.

I turned off the engine, waited about 10 min and started up my car again. I was welcomed with the engine symbol and the shakes again. I pulled away from my driveway and once I started going, the shakes became less apparent. However If I stop and park my car, the shaking starts up again. And also I have been hearing some squeaking noise from rare left suspension area when i drive through uneven surface.

I dont have long cranks, it starts right away but shakes alot when stopped or driven slow. Once speed is over 80kmph its normal. If any of you experienced or know the cause of this problem, please let me know.

Could this be just the injectors?

Link to the thread I have created.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388959

05-18-2010, 07:44 PM	#1
peanuboy Captain 64 Rep 800 Posts Drives: G80 M3 6MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (2)	finally replaced faulty HPFP updates so my car was acting up again this past weekend, rough start and idling, it's been like that since Sep of last year but this time, the fuel pump failure icon finally appeared on the trip computer.... took it into Endras 7am Monday morning and they were able to hook me up with a SX4 rental and send me on my way to work got a call around 4pm and told me they replaced the faulty HPFP, software updated and test drive was done It has been for almost half a year and I can finally sleep at night.... __________________ 2022 Lexus LC500 2021 BMW M3 6MT 2020 Porsche 911 C4S Cab PDK 2018 Audi R8 V10 RWS RTronic 2017 Porsche 911 C4 Cab 7MT 2009 BMW E93 M3 6MT 2008 BMW E90 335i 2004 Audi A4 1.8t 6MT 2001 VW GTI 1.8T Last edited by peanuboy; 08-11-2010 at 10:04 AM.. Reason: updates
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05-18-2010, 08:26 PM	#2
Blackout335i Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 335i Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	going through this myself right now. cars been running rough for the last month and finally packed in yesterday. Hope this is a long term fix.... __________________ E93 335i Black Sapphire/ Saddle Brown/ Weisslicht LED Halo/ 15%tint/ OEM Black Grills/ De-badged
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05-19-2010, 09:35 AM	#4
Nikos335i Brigadier General 92 Rep 3,822 Posts Drives: 2012 B8 S4 & 2013 F30 328xi Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada iTrader: (13) Garage List 2012 Audi S4 [9.00] 2007 E90 335i [9.00] 2011 Audi A4 Avant [10.00]	Just curious got mine replaced last week as well. The car doesn't always idle smoothly after the new HPFP and software update, seems like a slight blip of the throttle once in a while or the opposite on occasion, not as smooth as I would like it to be after the new HPFP. Anyone else with the same behavior? __________________ *'12 B8 S4 Ice Silver on Black/Premium/DSG/Sport Diff/Nav/Carbon Inlays/19' Titanium Wheels/RS4 Grill/AWE exhaust/Alu Kreuz/H&R OE/Pagid RS19* '13 F30 328xi Sapphire Black/Coral Red/Sportline/gloss black with matte red/Style 397 18" wheels gone: '07 E90 335i, Alpine White/Black with aluminum/sport/ steptronic/paddles/premium/Logic7 gone: '06 E61 530xi Sapphire Black/Black with aluminum/premium/panoramic sunroof/Logic7/PDC
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05-19-2010, 09:46 AM	#5
Chiggy First Lieutenant 12 Rep 305 Posts Drives: E92 335i, E70 4.8 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	What mileage are you guys seeing this problem at? So many HPFP replacements they should just do a recall.
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Nikos335i Brigadier General 92 Rep 3,822 Posts Drives: 2012 B8 S4 & 2013 F30 328xi Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada iTrader: (13) Garage List 2012 Audi S4 [9.00] 2007 E90 335i [9.00] 2011 Audi A4 Avant [10.00]	I'm at 53K. No prior warning in my case compared to others. No long cranking, etc I was driving along and the reduced power code came on. __________________ *'12 B8 S4 Ice Silver on Black/Premium/DSG/Sport Diff/Nav/Carbon Inlays/19' Titanium Wheels/RS4 Grill/AWE exhaust/Alu Kreuz/H&R OE/Pagid RS19* '13 F30 328xi Sapphire Black/Coral Red/Sportline/gloss black with matte red/Style 397 18" wheels gone: '07 E90 335i, Alpine White/Black with aluminum/sport/ steptronic/paddles/premium/Logic7 gone: '06 E61 530xi Sapphire Black/Black with aluminum/premium/panoramic sunroof/Logic7/PDC
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05-19-2010, 12:11 PM	#10
peanuboy Captain 64 Rep 800 Posts Drives: G80 M3 6MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (2)	I haven't noticed anything weird while driving so far, I've only gotten my car back for a day so will see... my car is now sitting at just over 40k and this problem creeped up last Sep, car had maybe low 30K back then I've gotten my JB3 more than a mth ago and it's still sitting in my garage, not sure if I wanna put it in...
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Pylon First Lieutenant 23 Rep 302 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1)	A mere 10,000 kms on my car. Car is at the dealership right now getting the HPFP changed. Used Shell 91 Octane only, never past half a tank. Didn't help. __________________ SOLD 2009 E92 335i M-Sport \| Alpine White \| Navi \| Audiophille \| 19" 225M Rims
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m-technik Captain 36 Rep 797 Posts Drives: E92 335, E36 Ti, Porsche 986 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada iTrader: (0)	I hadnt started my car for a week and when i started it up this morning it had a long crank and kind of sputtered for the first few minutes of driving. I had my HPFP replaced under a recall about 15,000kms ago with no problems. Is this a sign of impending failure? __________________ Monaco Blue E92 335 - i-Forged Senekas, KW V2 Coilovers, OEM Bmw Aero lip, AFE DCI, LUX H8 Sublime Green Dodge Challenger 392 w/hellcat package. KW Coilovers, Speedlogix CAI Jet Black E36 Ti - E36 M3 drivetrain, Full M-Tech, H&R Coilovers, 3.73 LSD, M-Clubsport interior and much more...
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Blackout335i Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 335i Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	So go the car back from the dealer and they did not replace the fuel pump. Reprogrammed the fuel management software, wonder how long this is going to last __________________ E93 335i Black Sapphire/ Saddle Brown/ Weisslicht LED Halo/ 15%tint/ OEM Black Grills/ De-badged
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05-21-2010, 03:43 PM	#19
EastYorkF80 New Member 3 Rep 23 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 Atlantis Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	My HPFP was just replaced today at 46K. According to the invoice, Parkview replaced the software, then let the car sit overnight. The problem (rough idle, longer than normal crank time) was still present, so they replaced the HPFP with part 13-51-7-594-943. Additionally, the invoice mentions "REPLACED HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AS PER PUMA MEASURE #29789968-06". I suspect this means something like "only replace the HPFP after software upgrade doesn't solve the issue".
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05-21-2010, 08:57 PM	#20
BBDC5 Private First Class 59 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 16 F80 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Parkview replaced my HPFP today as well. I have the same part number (13-51-7-594-943) but did not have "REPLACED HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AS PER PUMA MEASURE #29789968-06". The SA told me to stay away from SUNOCO 94 and start to use ESSO 91 or Petro 91. Or should I use Shell 91? BTW, the HPFP was replaced at 24K.
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05-22-2010, 09:21 AM	#22
Shaz General of the Armies 19 Rep 185 Posts Drives: Souped up 94 civic with Vtec Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0) Garage List 1994 Honda Civic [4.00] 1990 Honda Civic [7.00]	I was driving back from school on the HWY and since the road was pretty clear, I put my car into sports mode and floored it up to about 100 mph. All of a sudden I got a engine symbol on my dash and on the idrive. Said "Engine Malfunction, reduced power." and also engine service soon light came on as well. Once I put my car into Park, the whole car started shaking pretty violently. I turned off the engine, waited about 10 min and started up my car again. I was welcomed with the engine symbol and the shakes again. I pulled away from my driveway and once I started going, the shakes became less apparent. However If I stop and park my car, the shaking starts up again. And also I have been hearing some squeaking noise from rare left suspension area when i drive through uneven surface. I dont have long cranks, it starts right away but shakes alot when stopped or driven slow. Once speed is over 80kmph its normal. If any of you experienced or know the cause of this problem, please let me know. Could this be just the injectors? Link to the thread I have created. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388959
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