[toxicnerve]

Guys & Gals,

I need a spare wheel and jack for my motor (E92 with 19" 225 wheels).

BMW want in excess of £208 for just a wheel/tyre. There's a wheel & jack kit but that's more than £240+ with no definite lead time (until you place an order, which can't be cancelled). Buying the wheel and jack seperately from BMW adds up to over £280!!!!

Are there any alternatives? I'm running factory fitted RTFs at the moment...should I even bother with a spare? Would relying on BMW assist be sufficient?

Or should I get a cheap wheel/tyre combo from my local tyre place and source small jack from Halfords or something?

What are the panel's thoughts on this?

[Jeff123]

Hi

Many cars run without a spare wheel these days. As I have mentioned on earlier posts, my wife has a courtesy car at present, a Ford C Max - no spare tyre, just a continental mobility kit!!!

Virtually everyone has some form of breakdown cover. I also have had my (non-RFT) tyres Ultrasealed and carry a compresser and some tyreweld.

I think that BMW dealers have frightened the life out of some people with their BS re: RFT's.

Jeff

[chris330D]

If you're going for a jack/spare combo, make sure you have taken the wheels off at home as they are a bitch to remove!! I posted previously about this and the advice was to put some copper grease around the spigot. You would have no hope roadside IMHO if you've not had them off before.

[toxicnerve]

My reason for wanting a spare is that I am going to be doing some hefty mileage and a spare would keep me mobile in the event of a flat...

Just wondering if I could get my local wheel/tyre shop to hook me up with a basic wheel that would suffice as a spare and I could get a little jack from the likes of Halfords or ECP etc...

I feel uneasy about driving for miles and miles in unfamiliar territory without a spare...am I being silly and would BMW Assist be all the cover I need should the worst happen?

[ss134]

I would get the M Mobility kit for around £70. Its OEM and would at least get you to a tyre shop - Its all that M cars come with for a flat. You also have the added security of BMW Assist as well.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Guys & Gals,

I need a spare wheel and jack for my motor (E92 with 19" 225 wheels).

BMW want in excess of £208 for just a wheel/tyre. There's a wheel & jack kit ?

That's too much Poppy, I paid much less than that from my dealer.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by creepy coupe

That's too much Poppy, I paid much less than that from my dealer.

Yeah, that's what I told them!! Apparently £208 is best price now

Totally lame. I might end up relying on BMW Assist.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by ss134

I would get the M Mobility kit for around £70. Its OEM and would at least get you to a tyre shop - Its all that M cars come with for a flat. You also have the added security of BMW Assist as well.

Does that stuff work with RTF??

[Anneka @ Sytner]

The mobility kit isn't for RFT.
RFT's will hold together for miles and miles after receiving a puncture, you might not necassarily be able to tell that you have a puncture right away, but when the pressure decreases the tyre warning light will go on allowing you to check the tyre out and decide if there is a tyre outlet/dealer nearby or if you want to contact BMW assist.

[Em135eye]

Ring 12v tyre compressor:

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/what...--26-99/231565

Tyre Weld

And BMW Assist...

[doughboy]

My 17" BMW space saver spare was £139 inc vat from BMW with tyre??

Same one fits ALL E9x except M3.

item 1 - http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...74&hg=36&fg=95

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by doughboy

My 17" BMW space saver spare was £139 inc vat from BMW with tyre??

Same one fits ALL E9x except M3.

item 1 - http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...74&hg=36&fg=95

Are you sure that's with a tyre DB?

[doughboy]

Absolute-o-mundo.

This was only around xmas 09.

Part 36110445045 is item 1, ie. wheel / tyre / valve fitted, balanced and ready to go.

Its a special Continental tyre.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by Anneka @ Sytner

The mobility kit isn't for RFT.
RFT's will hold together for miles and miles after receiving a puncture, you might not necassarily be able to tell that you have a puncture right away, but when the pressure decreases the tyre warning light will go on allowing you to check the tyre out and decide if there is a tyre outlet/dealer nearby or if you want to contact BMW assist.

I thought it was a 50miles@50mph situation if you got a puncture/flat on RTF??

Originally Posted by doughboy

Absolute-o-mundo.

This was only around xmas 09.

Part 36110445045 is item 1, ie. wheel / tyre / valve fitted, balanced and ready to go.

Its a special Continental tyre.

Apparently that item is no longer available...

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by doughboy

Absolute-o-mundo.

Fairenoughski.

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

I thought it was a 50miles@50mph situation if you got a puncture/flat on RTF??



Apparently that item is no longer available...

So what part number are they offering instead???

BTW its 200miles at 50mph AFAIK?

Just read your post - sorry, if you still have RFTs just stick with no spare, and you can't use mobility kits / gunk with RFTs - there's no point!

I'd only get a spare if you dump the dastardly RFTs.. unless abroad, then I'd want a spare. Imagine calling for help on the continent - "but ros-beef, it is friday afternoon??? please call back on Monday"

You just need a 17" steel with the 5 off 120PCD holes and the BMW space saver dimensions, i.e. 3.5 x 17 ET8.

I'm sure you can find a steel roughly to those sizes?

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by doughboy

So what part number are they offering instead???

NFI but it costs £210 or thereabouts.

Originally Posted by doughboy

BTW its 200miles at 50mph AFAIK?

That's a bit more comforting.

EDIT:

http://www.bridgestone.eu/tyres/run-...t-tyre-faqs#02

Q: How far can I drive after I am alerted to a deflated tyre?

A: Bridgestone Runflat tyres are typically capable of travelling for a maximum of 80km at 80km/h after a tyre suffers deflation. However, the vehicle manufacturer may specify a different speed or distance for RFT tyres fitted to specific vehicles and owners should consult their vehicle handbook for details.

That's 50miles@50mph

Originally Posted by doughboy

I'd only get a spare if you dump the dastardly RFTs.. unless abroad, then I'd want a spare. Imagine calling for help on the continent - "but ros-beef, it is friday afternoon??? please call back on Monday"

You just need a 17" steel with the 5 off 120PCD holes and the BMW space saver dimensions, i.e. 3.5 x 17 ET8.

I'm sure you can find a steel roughly to those sizes?

Exactly...might have to consider a steel wheel as you suggest. How do you know a steely is "ok" though? It might be the right size but what about load etc?

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

However, the vehicle manufacturer may specify a different speed or distance for RFT tyres fitted to specific vehicles and owners should consult their vehicle handbook for details.

Exactly - my BMW manual says 200 miles at 50mph - so that superceeds Bridgestones advice as their statement says it can.

Steely should be fine, any wheel will have a max load rating, as long as its the same or heigher than what it says on the back of your OE wheels (should be cast in the alloy)

I'll have a look at my spare tonight.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Does that stuff work with RTF??

I assumed (wrongly!) that you had swapped to non RFT and that was the reason for the thread!

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by doughboy

Exactly - my BMW manual says 200 miles at 50mph - so that superceeds Bridgestones advice as their statement says it can.

Ah good call.

Originally Posted by doughboy

Steely should be fine, any wheel will have a max load rating, as long as its the same or heigher than what it says on the back of your OE wheels (should be cast in the alloy)

I'll have a look at my spare tonight.

Well I have decided to let BMW bend me over and am forking out £240 for the spare wheel & jack kit they do. The reason is I don't want to take any chances as I will be out in the middle of nowhere and if I do end up with a flat I want to be able to get to nearest village/town/city without having to worry about a flat RFT shredding on me or something.

I know it's probably a bit anal and a steely would do the job but I dont want to chance it...

But the information from your wheel would still be useful and could well help others out.

Originally Posted by ss134

I assumed (wrongly!) that you had swapped to non RFT and that was the reason for the thread!

Heh, I am indeed still on RFT but I will be out in the sticks so wanted to chuck a spare in the boot just in case the worst should happen.

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

I have decided to let BMW bend me over and am forking out £240 for the spare wheel & jack kit they do.

Nowt wrong with that, you know you're getting a good product and it will fit any future 3ers, plus you'll have no probs shifting if you ever need to.

[eshroom]

Apologies if this has been asked, but surely on 6 cylinder e92s a 17" wheel from other manufacturers will fit. Obviously not all, but does anyone know of ones that will? Vauxhall, VW?
Thanks!