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      07-07-2010, 07:19 AM   #1
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Rough poll - warranty extension

With many of us coming up to three years or above old, who is extending their warranty, who isn't?

Mine came with a years (actually 8 months as the BMW one overlapped it) UA warranty but it runs out a the end of this month.

I'm not going to extend it...

Being serviced next week just before it runs out but no major issues to report.
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      07-07-2010, 07:22 AM   #2
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For me it will depend on a few things, how many miles I'd clocked up, what problems, if any I'd had during ownership, it wouldn't take much on a 335i to spend £1k on parts and labour though.

Not so bad on the derv burners, no coil packs or HPFP
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      07-07-2010, 07:34 AM   #3
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Creepy - 27.5k miles, no issues apart from a couple of tiny issues all sorted (stuck seatbelt, dead puddle light), been checked on the PUMA database, never had any issues. Also don't have i-drive which seems to cause issues with some cars post warranty period.

It'll probably blow up anyway.
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      07-07-2010, 07:36 AM   #4
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For me it will depend on a few things, how many miles I'd clocked up, what problems, if any I'd had during ownership, it wouldn't take much on a 335i to spend £1k on parts and labour though.

Not so bad on the derv burners, no coil packs or HPFP
But, DPF, injectors etc...the fuel pump on the big D can't be cheap and I bet it's a bitch to get to.

When my warranty is up I think I will probably extend it assuming the Ts&Cs are reasonable and the cost isnt insane.

Don't forget, after your original warranty is up any extension is basically an insurance policy, not a true warranty. This being the case, any Ts&Cs they (the provider) like can be imposed. Things like having to service at a main dealer etc.
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      07-07-2010, 07:36 AM   #5
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Creepy - 27.5k miles, no issues apart from a couple of tiny issues all sorted (stuck seatbelt, dead puddle light), been checked on the PUMA database, never had any issues. Also don't have i-drive which seems to cause issues with some cars post warranty period.

It'll probably blow up anyway.
How much they quoting for an extra year 335diesel?
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      07-07-2010, 07:38 AM   #6
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But, DPF, injectors etc...the fuel pump on the big D can't be cheap and I bet it's a bitch to get to.

But these parts aren't a problem on the scale of the 335i's fuel pump and coil packs toxic.
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      07-07-2010, 07:51 AM   #7
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Not the same car, but I bought my AUC 535d with 30K on the clock and in the last year it's had one of the turbo actuators replaced along with the vacuum pump, a KDE body control module, new battery and 'intelligent' battery lead and recently a new DDE unit and track-rod end. It's been back in for diagnosis of hesitancy that resulted in the turbo actuators being re-adjusted and the DPF taken off and inspected too. Most of these jobs would have been more expensive than the £780 it cost to renew the comprehensive warranty with zero excess. I think the E9x warranty is a bit cheaper than the E60, so I'd buy without hesitation. You just need to decide on the level of excess IMO, but as soon as you have two dealer visits it costs in to have zero excess.

AIUI turbo actuators, turbos, injectors, DPF and electronic control units are all prone to failure on our cars and none of these are cheaper to fix than the cost of the warranty.
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But these parts aren't a problem on the scale of the 335i's fuel pump and coil packs toxic.
Oh sorry, you're referring to "known issues" as it were. I get what you're saying now.

But bear in mind that when things start to go wrong on these cars (be they common issues or a one-off that just happens to you) costs add up quickly, especially when you're talking main dealer rates. A problem that costs a few hundred quid might not be a big deal but if/when something big decides to let go for no apparent reason (let's say a turbo) costs can very quickly reach into multiples of a grand.

That's more what I was driving at. Make no mistake, things will start to give up as the cars get older...just depends on how lucky you are and if your car was the mythical "Friday Afternoon" model.
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      07-07-2010, 08:01 AM   #9
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Also bear in mind how much value the warranty adds to your vehicle should you decide to sell it. And that you'll be paying the same for the warranty on a 335d as someone with a 318i, so it's bloody good value.

Sure you do have to have it serviced by BMW, but at 18,000 mile intervals that's not such a problem and as my car is 4+ years old my dealer gives me 10% off parts and 20% off labour, which is nice. There is a lot to be said for buying and running a BMW out of the factory warranty period. I've never bought anything else!
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Miles - I think the earlier 535ds were prone to problems?

My thinking is that extending the warranty is basically just insuring it and I don't trust third party warranties (had one on previous cars - even if you go top dollar, they are stupidly restrictive).

Been quoted around £500 for fairly comprehensive cover.
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Been quoted around £500 for fairly comprehensive cover.
From BMW?
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I extended it because i had just bought it and it was due to run out of the manufacturers warranty.

I was buying a 20k car give or take without knowing if it had any underlying problems.

I extended with BMW Insured Warranty services, supplied by Mondial. The quote was something like £340 P/A fully comp. with a £250 excess for each warranty claim.


The policy states i must get it serviced by a BMW garage and BMW approved parts must be used. To clarify on the tyres, i can swap from RF's to non RF's but the sizes must stay the same.

It's worth it for me, because the injectors, turbo's, fuel rail and fuel pump are all very expensive parts and i was entering into an unknown. If you've had the car for 3 years and have had no problems, i might not have bothered. All i need to do now is, use v-power, try and assist a DPF purge, run it at max torque for a handful of miles and try to burn any soot deposits out as the warranty doesn't covered component failure due to soot deposits.
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From BMW?
Via Mondial (but through BMW) like Briers did.

£350ish gets less comprehensive cover.

It's not a question of affording it, I just hate wasting money on things like glorified insurance policies with a million Ts and Cs.

Will have a mull.
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      07-07-2010, 09:40 AM   #14
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I extended mine with BMW. I only have just over 20k Miles on mine, so the price was about £400, I think - includes Mobile Care too.

Hopefully will cover the "Turbo hose" leak problem I just had repaired. The Dealer wasn't certain - though they were told in no undue terms by me that it isn't a one-off fault that will come as a surprise to BMW, and I didn't expect to pay for it. Not charged me anything yet (for repair and courtesy car), we shall see ....

But it just takes a bit of bad luck to be landed with a thumping big bill if something major on the 335D goes wrong.

So apart from servicing costs (My Swiss servicing deal I only pay for parts in the first 10 years : Gratis-Service bis 100000 km oder 10 Jahre), I think £400 is reasonable for another years coverage by BMW and peace of mind.

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On Extended BMW Comprehensive Warranty also, cost around £520 this year including breakdown cover, I've got a BMW 325i SE with 72k on the clock, have no major trouble (bar bloody people smacking into me!)..I do 22k+ a year so it's peace of mind really...
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      07-07-2010, 10:31 AM   #16
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my 335d was 3 on 27th of june and i went for the BMW extended warranty.........

£420 for the year - on the fully comprehensive level - £250 excess
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      07-07-2010, 10:47 AM   #17
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Miles - I think the earlier 535ds were prone to problems?

My thinking is that extending the warranty is basically just insuring it and I don't trust third party warranties (had one on previous cars - even if you go top dollar, they are stupidly restrictive).

Been quoted around £500 for fairly comprehensive cover.
All cars have their problems - even Toyotas and BMWs aren't built like they used to be and are increasingly complex and costly to fix.

The warranty is an insurance policy, but it's a good one that rivals the kind of cover you get from BMW on a new car if you choose the comprehensive policy. It's only a third party warranty because BMW aren't allowed to administer their own policies any more and is the same warranty that you get from BMW if you buy an approved-used car from them. I don't find it stupidly restrictive. Exclusions are obvious things like wiper blades and brake pads, you're covered up to the purchase price of the car and unlike a third party warranty you don't have to pay and then try to claim back as the dealer will gladly submit as much warranty work as they can get.

You can reduce the cost a little by not taking the breakdown cover and adding an excess. When I renewed mine I got a link to allow me to price up various options.
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      07-07-2010, 01:37 PM   #18
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I would agree with Creepycoupe in that it seems the cars are really variable in their reliability. Some here have had loads of faults others not. My first E91 had no problems at all and I would not have bothered with a warranty. This one has been a pia and I am changing it early as I am fed up going back to the dealer.
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Hmmm - interesting.

And potentially expensive.
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      07-07-2010, 04:36 PM   #20
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I've had no real problems with my car so decided to go it alone when it turned 3 years old in March. Now done 57k miles. I do most of my own maintenance so save a few quid here as well. If something serious happened I think I would just have to cough and treat it as one of those things.
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If the turbo goes on a 335d you could be looking at a bill of £5k plus.

The BMW warranty is great value in my opinion. I paid £350 for the 330i and I reckon it was an absolute bargain.

And that is coming from someone who always refuses extended warranties,
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      07-07-2010, 05:02 PM   #22
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Its a no brainer for cars like yours, just buy it you tight wad. Keep the warranty going, and then if you sell privately, then you will more than recoup your costs. Note the 'monthly' option is not tranferable to a new owner.
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