Upgraded turbos in your future? Check your...

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 07:39 PM

Soo....I've been testing my car with the EPL upgraded turbos and I have to say they are amazing....GOBS and GOBS of power....but today I tried a launch using the V4s launch control and well basically I blew my axles...or at least I think....loaded up to 2600 loud bang no movement...no smoke , no leaking, no codes but when I put the car in park it makes this crunching sound but only when I put it in park.....not d or r or n.....just park.

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cn555ic · 08-17-2010, 07:42 PM

Oh SHit...Does the car still move in drive?

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Oh SHit...Does the car still move in drive?

Nope

marcielago · 08-17-2010, 07:45 PM

I really feel sorry for this... I hope it turns out to be nothing catostraphic

I335 · 08-17-2010, 07:46 PM

Sounds pretty clear that you blew the tranny. Do you know how much power you were putting down with your setup?

cn555ic · 08-17-2010, 07:48 PM

It could be the half shaft..FBIS wanted to upgrade his

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=418969

Either way did you hit up Matt and see what he thinks... I would think he would know for sure

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

It could be the half shaft..FBIS wanted to upgrade his

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=418969

Either way did you hit up Matt and see what he thinks... I would think he would know for sure

Lol...of course....he's the first person I called...just wanted to know if anyone else has done this before....

gian335 · 08-17-2010, 08:03 PM

dam, that sucks......hope shes back on the road soon. I havent had any issues with my AT but then again I havent had time to test out some hard launching

GL man

JDLM · 08-17-2010, 08:03 PM

Damn my head hurts even trying to read that, sorry about your issues

bimmertt · 08-17-2010, 08:07 PM

I've had one auto transmission break on me before and it made crunching sounds like you described. It made the noise when I put it in drive and reverse though and the car would not move.

cn555ic · 08-17-2010, 08:09 PM

Damn Dan...Keep me posted...I hope it turns out to be something minor..

Krozi · 08-17-2010, 08:09 PM

Maybe the guibo is gone? Probably more than that though....

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:16 PM

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Damn Dan...Keep me posted...I hope it turns out to be something minor..

Yea....I'm hoping it's something minor....the thing that gets me is that the car didn't throw not one code...

RoundelM3 · 08-17-2010, 08:21 PM

The Fast and The Furious Because They Busted Their Car...

Nothing personal, but you'd think people would be aware that a stronger engine with way more torque than stock needs a stronger driveline, especially when abusing it (hard launches, etc). It's likely going to be a trans component, and those ZF automatics are pricey.

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by roundel335

The Fast and The Furious Because They Busted Their Car...

Nothing personal, but you'd think people would be aware that a stronger engine with way more torque than stock needs a stronger driveline, especially when abusing it (hard launches, etc). It's likely going to be a trans component, and those ZF automatics are pricey.

That first line didn't make any sense...but anyway...we all know it needs a stronger drive line...there just isn't one out now so what's your point?

cn555ic · 08-17-2010, 08:34 PM

Wow if its a total tranny that needs to be replaced I would try to see if there are any possible upgraded parts...Damn these AT tranny are expensive...Hopefully you can get it under warranty man...

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Wow if its a total tranny that needs to be replaced I would try to see if there are any possible upgraded parts...Damn these AT tranny are expensive...Hopefully you can get it under warranty man...

Yea....I took the v4 out and cleared all codes...if it isn't covered under warranty looks like I'll be filing a claim by the end of the week....anyone ever file a claim for mechanical issues before?

Terrance28 · 08-17-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimateendz

Yea....I'm hoping it's something minor....the thing that gets me is that the car didn't throw not one code...

Doesn't the procede delete codes right away?

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrance28

Doesn't the procede delete codes right away?

Yea but would have thought a tranny code would persist even after I took out the v4....but it didn't...

jblackwell · 08-17-2010, 08:43 PM

I almost guarantee it's not the trans.... Follow me here for a sec.

It sounds like something let go that was beyond your trans (driveshaft, half shaft, differential, etc)

When that happened, your trans was spinning freely at the output shaft where your parking pawl is located. When you threw it in park, it simply sounded like grinding as it couldn't drop into the drum rotating beneath it. Same as throwing your car in park before you come to a stop.

That's not our trans, but it shows the "hole" the pawl has to fall into so that Park means stop driveshaft rotation.

Here is a REALLY simple test. Put your car in park, e-brake off, and see if you can push it forward or backward.

ultimateendz · 08-17-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jblackwell

I almost guarantee it's not the trans.... Follow me here for a sec.

It sounds like something let go that was beyond your trans (driveshaft, half shaft, differential, etc)

When that happened, your trans was spinning freely at the output shaft where your parking pawl is located. When you threw it in park, it simply sounded like grinding as it couldn't drop into the drum rotating beneath it. Same as throwing your car in park before you come to a stop.

That's not our trans, but it shows the "hole" the pawl has to fall into so that Park means stop driveshaft rotation.

Here is a REALLY simple test. Put your car in park, e-brake off, and see if you can push it forward or backward.

So if the car moves while in park does that prove it's not the tranny?

jpsimon · 08-17-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrance28

Doesn't the procede delete codes right away?

no it won't delete the codes if they aren't from the list specified (all tuner/o2 related).

good luck man I hope it's something minor

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