VBOX Numbers on 14.5psi with New Procede maps

AltecBX · 01-16-2011, 05:55 AM

Here is a run that I did last night. I couldn't reach 130mph as my max was 125.6mph before having to slow down. What do you think?

enrita · 01-16-2011, 06:09 AM

You should do pulls from 60-130 mph. 0 to are worthless. There is much more to compaire from 60 since thats what everybody uses.

AltecBX · 01-16-2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

You should do pulls from 60-130 mph. 0 to are worthless. There is much more to compaire from 60 since thats what everybody uses.

I got close to 130 but couldn't cause of the road I was in. I'll do more testing tomorrow.

hotrod182 · 01-16-2011, 07:54 AM

Although you have a good 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds, showing a decent launch, your 0-100 time should probably be quicker than 11 seconds.

How do your tires compare to the stock runflats?

On the stock RFTs, full weight my JBD 335d does:
0-60 4.6 seconds, 0-100 11.4 seconds

On stock RFTs, full weight, 91 oct. JB4/DCI, my 335 does:
0-60 4.4 seconds, 0-100: 10.4 seconds.

Stock, I get around 12.5 seconds 0-100.

Here are the 3 screen shots: JBD/JB4/Stock

Ah...nevermind...you have a IX, that is about as heavy as my diesel, LOL.

themyst · 01-16-2011, 09:17 AM

Technically speaking, your vbox runs on the new maps are worse than you did before....

enrita · 01-16-2011, 09:59 AM

can you post your times 60 to whatever you came up in speed? You can do it through the software . Basically i mean something like this or look at Mr.5 as well:

OpenFlash · 01-16-2011, 11:19 AM

Maybe we should wait until the maps are done and publicly released first?

AltecBX · 01-16-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

How do your tires compare to the stock runflats?
I'm running my runflats now because of the winter here. My non runflats staggered summer bridgestone RE-11 are much better.

On the stock RFTs, full weight my JBD 335d does:
0-60 4.6 seconds, 0-100 11.4 seconds

On the stock RFTs, full weight my Procede 335xi does:
0-60 4.5 seconds, 0-100 11.0 seconds

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Originally Posted by themyst

Technically speaking, your vbox runs on the new maps are worse than you did before....

Well I had a little more weight cause of an additional 30 lbs in trunk and I'm running on the stock runflats continentals all seasons, nothing compare with the Bridgestones RE-11 Extreme Summers. Also as Shiv mention, maps are still in beta.

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Originally Posted by enrita

can you post your times 60 to whatever you came up in speed? You can do it through the software . Basically i mean something like this or look at Mr.5 as well:

Please let me know where to d/l the software. Thanks

Mr. 5 · 01-16-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Please let me know where to d/l the software. Thanks

Remember too that Hotrod really is out of the norm when it comes to performance.
I've stopped comparing his times a while back lol.

Here is the Racelogic software...
http://www.performancebox.co.uk/dlsoftware.html

AltecBX · 01-23-2011, 03:08 AM

Here's my new results

AltecBX · 01-23-2011, 03:18 AM

Notice the difference running the same amount of boost:
0-10 = .3s faster
0-20 = .2s faster
0-30 = .2s faster
0-40 = unchanged
0-50 = unchanged
0-60 = unchanged
0-70 = .2s faster
0-80 = .3s faster
0-90 = .5s faster
0-100= 1.1s faster

So these maps definite improved the 0-30mph and 70-100mph.
Shiv, is there a way to improve the 30-70mph?

enrita · 01-23-2011, 05:08 AM

Yeah there is an easy way. Get an ic and dps... Also you can set up in the box to show predefined times. Set for example 60-90 and 60-130 so that those are displayed in the vbox screen
Use then those 2 only to see how fast the car is. 0 to times are useless as there are too many variable involed and its not good for the car anyway.
When you start seeing constant results over and over you have reached your car limits depending on the mods.

secretsquirrel · 01-23-2011, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltecBX

Notice the difference running the same amount of boost:
0-10 = .3s faster
0-20 = .2s faster
0-30 = .2s faster
0-40 = unchanged
0-50 = unchanged
0-60 = unchanged
0-70 = .2s faster
0-80 = .3s faster
0-90 = .5s faster
0-100= 1.1s faster

So these maps definite improved the 0-30mph and 70-100mph.
Shiv, is there a way to improve the 30-70mph?

It's obvious that the new maps are faster on the same boost. But it's nice to have the difference quantified. A whole second faster 0-100 is huge.

hotrod182 · 01-23-2011, 12:29 PM

Nice to see that you got it worked out.

Interestingly enough, your initial 4.5 sec 0-60mph and 11.0 0-100mph were identical to my 335d numbers from this morning. 66F temps. And I am only trapping 108mph. So I think its safe to say you were running far from optimum during the initial test results.

AltecBX · 01-23-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Yeah there is an easy way. Get an ic and dps... Also you can set up in the box to show predefined times. Set for example 60-90 and 60-130 so that those are displayed in the vbox screen
Use then those 2 only to see how fast the car is. 0 to times are useless as there are too many variable involed and its not good for the car anyway.
When you start seeing constant results over and over you have reached your car limits depending on the mods.

Of course if I install ic or dps it will effect my times, as well with either maps. I'm trying to figure out how were the low and high #'s runs effective positively but not the middle range from 30-70mph with or without mods.

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Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

It's obvious that the new maps are faster on the same boost. But it's nice to have the difference quantified. A whole second faster 0-100 is huge.

Yes they are faster. I'm just hoping it gets better in the mid range runs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Nice to see that you got it worked out.

Interestingly enough, your initial 4.5 sec 0-60mph and 11.0 0-100mph were identical to my 335d numbers from this morning. 66F temps. And I am only trapping 108mph. So I think its safe to say you were running far from optimum during the initial test results.

Wow, very interesting to see it run the same as my first initial run. I was running 1-13 beta maps at the time with temp of 34F. This time I was running 1-21 beta maps with temp of 31F. Both were run on the same private road and the same time at night.

What tune are you running and what boost?

hotrod182 · 01-23-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Of course if I install ic or dps it will effect my times, as well with either maps. I'm trying to figure out how were the low and high #'s runs effective positively but not the middle range from 30-70mph with or without mods.

Yes they are faster. I'm just hoping it gets better in the mid range runs.

Wow, very interesting to see it run the same as my first initial run. I was running 1-13 beta maps at the time with temp of 34F. This time I was running 1-21 beta maps with temp of 31F. Both were run on the same private road and the same time at night.

What tune are you running and what boost?

On the diesel I am just running the JBD. Fuel enhancement only. Doesn't touch boost. I am hoping to run a 12.8 and break the diesel record next month!

On a side note...averaged 43.5mpg back from the Laker game last Friday!

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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	You should do pulls from 60-130 mph. 0 to are worthless. There is much more to compaire from 60 since thats what everybody uses. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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hotrod182 . 829 Rep 3,982 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Although you have a good 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds, showing a decent launch, your 0-100 time should probably be quicker than 11 seconds. How do your tires compare to the stock runflats? On the stock RFTs, full weight my JBD 335d does: 0-60 4.6 seconds, 0-100 11.4 seconds On stock RFTs, full weight, 91 oct. JB4/DCI, my 335 does: 0-60 4.4 seconds, 0-100: 10.4 seconds. Stock, I get around 12.5 seconds 0-100. Here are the 3 screen shots: JBD/JB4/Stock Ah...nevermind...you have a IX, that is about as heavy as my diesel, LOL. Attached Images __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	can you post your times 60 to whatever you came up in speed? You can do it through the software . Basically i mean something like this or look at Mr.5 as well: __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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AltecBX Colonel 325 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	Notice the difference running the same amount of boost: 0-10 = .3s faster 0-20 = .2s faster 0-30 = .2s faster 0-40 = unchanged 0-50 = unchanged 0-60 = unchanged 0-70 = .2s faster 0-80 = .3s faster 0-90 = .5s faster 0-100= 1.1s faster So these maps definite improved the 0-30mph and 70-100mph. Shiv, is there a way to improve the 30-70mph? __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Yeah there is an easy way. Get an ic and dps... Also you can set up in the box to show predefined times. Set for example 60-90 and 60-130 so that those are displayed in the vbox screen Use then those 2 only to see how fast the car is. 0 to times are useless as there are too many variable involed and its not good for the car anyway. When you start seeing constant results over and over you have reached your car limits depending on the mods. Last edited by enrita; 01-23-2011 at 05:29 AM..
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hotrod182 . 829 Rep 3,982 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Nice to see that you got it worked out. Interestingly enough, your initial 4.5 sec 0-60mph and 11.0 0-100mph were identical to my 335d numbers from this morning. 66F temps. And I am only trapping 108mph. So I think its safe to say you were running far from optimum during the initial test results. Attached Images __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
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