[frank35]

I am interested in dp catless, between active 3 " and ar design 3 ". They said to me that really the ar design is equal to the CP-e, and ends in 2.5 ". Is it true?
There are differences between active and the ar design?

[Bimmer This]

Not much different. Most people on here have AR design DP's for the quality and fitment.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

AR Pipes are 3inch all the way to the catback flange.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

All 3" pipes taper at the end as they have to in order to mount to the stock exhaust system. ar design is definitely a #1 seller for me and with most guys on the forum. AA is pretty good as well. They are newer to the DP game here.

You can PM me and I can explain more and we can see what best fits your needs and budget.

Mike

[frank35]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

All 3" pipes taper at the end as they have to in order to mount to the stock exhaust system. ar design is definitely a #1 seller for me and with most guys on the forum. AA is pretty good as well. They are newer to the DP game here.

You can PM me and I can explain more and we can see what best fits your needs and budget.

Mike

But ar design and active it ends in 2.5 " as cp-e or really only cp-e and ends in 2.5 "?

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by frank35

But ar design and active it ends in 2.5 " as cp-e or really only cp-e and ends in 2.5 "?

I don't get it? They all end in 2.5"

MIke

[frank35]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I don't get it? They all end in 2.5"

MIke

Exactly. No DP is 3''to the end?

[Black Gold]

Well if it has to bolt up to a 2.5 inch piece of pipe, it would be physically impossible not to taper down to 2.5 inches and still fit properly

[BobS]

I have AR catless and a set of CP e catted. Both are high quality and very well made. I bought both used because i had a good deal and didn't know which route I was going to go. I decided to go catless so the CP-e catted are for sale....see my sig heh

[Black Gold]

Why are you deciding to go catless?

I have read that catted really doesn't provide much advantage over stock.....is this true?

[BobS]

I decided to go catless because i want more power. I have read you still make good power over stock with catted but you get the most possible power from catless downpipes.

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by BobS

I decided to go catless because i want more power. I have read you still make good power over stock with catted but you get the most possible power from catless downpipes.

catless is the only way to go!

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Why are you deciding to go catless?

I have read that catted really doesn't provide much advantage over stock.....is this true?

Thats as false a statement as possible! In fact its the opposite for FI!

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Catted DP def help, but if your going to pay for DP you mine as well go catless, especially if your already down there doing the work. The only thing I would think about is maybe adding some resonators in the pipes, clean up the sound a touch without sacrificing performance.

[Brey335i]

+ 1... no point paying for catted pipes when catless is where the fun is at

[sunnydshine]

i have the AA downpipe and I absolutely love it. The fitment is right on

[Enicinitas]

I would ask a berkeley nudist which one they prefer. Personally, wife went to bezerkley and she would prefer AA for the reason that you run them and you're from there.

I would say go with AR b/c they fit, they work, and, on this retarded site, people want badges and don't care about doing research to save money. If a vendor - let's say M -dbag - bargains - copies and pastes the ten best reasons for XXX exhaust - well - the noobs that have no clue will read and jones!

Personally, in the case of AR - if you part out your car - you can at least sell them quickly for a price that gets something back on what you pay = same goes for the other great brands, AE, AST/Swift, any LSD, V5, the list goes on.

Good advice - buy something not for how much it costs - but - for how much you think people may want to pay for it / vs. how much you paid initially when you need to sell.

I can go off - but a lot of people have ADD and I'll probably have to bring this up multiple times....

[Zaw]

is there any benefit to putting DP's with the stock exhaust system? I wanted to keep the stock exhaust but was wondering if I should upgrade the FMIC or the DP's first. I'm more interested in better throttle respond than more raw power.

[Craig@SupremePower]

Very happy with my AR catless dp's!