[Coolieman1220]

Just wondering if any of you guys have Laser Jammers on your cars. I know a lot of us have Radar Detectors. I myself have a V1 for radar. I'm looking into getting a Laser Interceptor setup for my e90. Placement seems to be an issue for us with our cars which has stopped me from purchasing it. Anyone have any type of jammer? How's your setup?

Laser is becoming more and more prevalent these days.

[dasano18]

Ive seen a couple of m3post guys with escort 9500ci setups and they look good and from what i read work well.. pencil geek has it done nice. Im going to buy the escort 9500ci right after i come back from ED in june

[garage queen 335is]

I got it. Saved me many times. On the front I used existing holes in the bumper to mount antennas. On the back, right above license plate. It is almost invisible.

[ZTZ1010]

Ive got a laser interceptor setup on my e90 as well as on my e70. One of the best investments to stay out of jail I've ever made. Saved me 5+ times at triple digit speeds

[Coolieman1220]

Originally Posted by jmikeh

please slow down, fellas...

With laser, it's so easy for a cop to pick you out and you won't even know it. Even if you happen to get married away and drift 10+ over PSL, next thing you're invited to a road side disco.

Originally Posted by ZTZ1010

Ive got a laser interceptor setup on my e90 as well as on my e70. One of the best investments to stay out of jail I've ever made. Saved me 5+ times at triple digit speeds

I'm looking into the LI. How do you have yours mounted? I was thinking to get the High Power setup so I could mount it vertically in my grille because they are vertical and horizontally polarizes. Mounting below the headlights seems too low. Any pics?

Originally Posted by garage queen 335is

I got it. Saved me many times. On the front I used existing holes in the bumper to mount antennas. On the back, right above license plate. It is almost invisible.

Pics please?

[Licit]

Does a laser interceptor jam the laser signal so the officer gets no reading or just make you aware of the laser tracking?

[Wingman335]

Originally Posted by Licit

Does a laser interceptor jam the laser signal so the officer gets no reading or just make you aware of the laser tracking?

Yes, it jams the laser beam from reflecting back proper data, thereby preventing the user from obtaining a reading.

Some improved laser based speed measurement devices can determine when their signals are jammed, but that shouldn't be an issue for the driver where laser jammers are legal.

[Philz BMW]

I have a 9500ix, and I bought (forgot the name) the compatible laser jammer package to go with it. When I got it, I realized that I didn't want to do any cutting on the front bumper (and was too lazy to route all the wires) so I returned it.

[saeyedoc]

I think the idea with the jammers is that you get a warning that the jammer has gone off, you then slow down and turn the jammer off, so the LIO gets a valid reading. Otherwise, they will know you've jammed them and could hassle you.

[zeenon53]

I used to have the K2 jammer on my STi. It works when the cop has their laser ON.

[Philz BMW]

In some states, police don't even need a radar/laser reading to give you a ticket. They can simply state they saw you going too fast. While this probably isn't used for situations like "I saw you going what appeared to be 75 in a 70", most likely if you were doing 100mph in a 65...it would stick.


http://ohiobikelawyer.com/bike-law-1...eeding-ticket/

The Ohio Supreme Court held that the officer’s visual estimate was sufficient to support the conviction. The reason? He passed the OPOTA training course and was “experienced” at estimating speed.

[Mk23]

If you are getting LI make sure you mount them here:



Make sure they are screwed into the roof of that lower grill area (NOT BEHIND THE GRILL) and make sure they are level (horizontally). Just read the manual well and you'll get it.

[InsanePineapple]

Originally Posted by Philz BMW

In some states, police don't even need a radar/laser reading to give you a ticket. They can simply state they saw you going too fast. While this probably isn't used for situations like "I saw you going what appeared to be 75 in a 70", most likely if you were doing 100mph in a 65...it would stick.


http://ohiobikelawyer.com/bike-law-1...eeding-ticket/

They have to pace you for a quarter of a mile to establish speed. Then it just becomes your word against theirs. And in a hearing, the magistrate will always take a cop's word.

My last ticket was issued this way. It was late at night and I got lax with watching my rear. As if to taunt he, he pulled up close behind me and THEN flipped on the radar. Of course my radar detector goes crazy and I flip out, by then he had already put on his lights. Moral of the story? Electronics are not foolproof. ALWAYS watch your rear.

[Philz BMW]

true. You could have laser, radar, and jammers....and a plane could still nab you.

[Homers17]

Originally Posted by ZTZ1010

Ive got a laser interceptor setup on my e90 as well as on my e70. One of the best investments to stay out of jail I've ever made. Saved me 5+ times at triple digit speeds

A better idea would be to NOT drive at triple digit speeds

[Coolieman1220]

Originally Posted by Philz BMW

true. You could have laser, radar, and jammers....and a plane could still nab you.

with all the budgets cuts we got going on these days, flying a plane to catch speeders is highly unlikely. the cost of flying the plane vs the revenue generated does not make sense. Also i believe if you contest in court, both the officer who pulled you over and the one who clocked you in the plane have to be present.

as per visual estimation it is possible. The cop can also lie (which they do) and say he was tailing you when he wasn't. It's not difficult to see a car thats going 30+ over and point it out.

Also lets keep this thread on topic, not about speeding and breaking the law, we drive BMW's and they are fast cars.

So yeah, Laser Jammers any more info?

[eamon]

Laser Interceptor LI Dual - 2 Head Ultimate Laser Jammer Device

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...mpaign=froogle

Does this seem like a reputable jammer? Anyone have any links to their jammers. Hope the link works
Eamon

[Philz BMW]

Originally Posted by Coolieman1220

with all the budgets cuts we got going on these days, flying a plane to catch speeders is highly unlikely. the cost of flying the plane vs the revenue generated does not make sense. Also i believe if you contest in court, both the officer who pulled you over and the one who clocked you in the plane have to be present.

as per visual estimation it is possible. The cop can also lie (which they do) and say he was tailing you when he wasn't. It's not difficult to see a car thats going 30+ over and point it out.

Also lets keep this thread on topic, not about speeding and breaking the law, we drive BMW's and they are fast cars.

So yeah, Laser Jammers any more info?

1- Had at least 5 friends (cars and mcycles) this past year get tickets for speeding, caught by airplanes. All paid fines.

2- If we aren't talking about speeding, what's the point of having laser jammers, radar detectors, et al?

[Elitehend26]

Well guys we have many different speed detection capabilities.. One advantage is being on a motorcycle and running laser. Most of the time people do not notice the officer(talking from my personal experience). Anyhow, jammers do work, but sometimes we could detect it. Specially when ur the only vehicle on the road. "Guesstimation" of a vehicle speed is expected when we go to court. We are trained for weeks in just guesstimation at the academy. An officer could lie, but i could tell u a vehicle speed just by looking at it, and guarantee u that im no
More then three miles over or under.. This is allowed by case law ofcourse and expected by te courts. Anyway back to the jammers, they are very effective, but if i notice that my laser gives me the indication, and i could
Single
Out the car, i will pull it over and check for
Jammer installations around the vehicle, and i know what im looking for.. Since i do my homework. Just keep this in mind. They do work but they can also get u in trouble. Final note, long live the 335 community!! Be safe guys..

[Coolieman1220]

Originally Posted by Philz BMW

1- Had at least 5 friends (cars and mcycles) this past year get tickets for speeding, caught by airplanes. All paid fines.

2- If we aren't talking about speeding, what's the point of having laser jammers, radar detectors, et al?

What part of the country is this?

Originally Posted by Elitehend26

Well guys we have many different speed detection capabilities.. One advantage is being on a motorcycle and running laser. Most of the time people do not notice the officer(talking from my personal experience). Anyhow, jammers do work, but sometimes we could detect it. Specially when ur the only vehicle on the road. "Guesstimation" of a vehicle speed is expected when we go to court. We are trained for weeks in just guesstimation at the academy. An officer could lie, but i could tell u a vehicle speed just by looking at it, and guarantee u that im no
More then three miles over or under.. This is allowed by case law ofcourse and expected by te courts. Anyway back to the jammers, they are very effective, but if i notice that my laser gives me the indication, and i could
Single
Out the car, i will pull it over and check for
Jammer installations around the vehicle, and i know what im looking for.. Since i do my homework. Just keep this in mind. They do work but they can also get u in trouble. Final note, long live the 335 community!! Be safe guys..

A military man as a peace officer, i think all "cops" should have military experience. Especially living in NYC with the NYPD hiring 21 year olds with 60 credits of college as cops. Most of these cops are not trained well enough. What types of laser guns do you use? Do you use any Spectre units for Radar Detector Detection? How could you not single out the car? laser is super precise. Is laser jamming illegal in VA? what do you do when you find a car with it? Hell when i drive through virginia on 95, i leave my V1 up and running. It's easy to sniff cops out since they tend to leave constant on radar. I just try to slow down before they see me slowing down knowing i have one and if i do catch it, i turn it off for a bit.

thats what i love about using countermeasures to this electronic warfare. it makes driving a cat and mouse game and i'm not even talking about trying to do triple digits, even if i'm doing the limit, i just like to know where they are and whats around!

[ZTZ1010]

Originally Posted by Coolieman1220

I'm looking into the LI. How do you have yours mounted? I was thinking to get the High Power setup so I could mount it vertically in my grille because they are vertical and horizontally polarizes. Mounting below the headlights seems too low. Any pics?



Pics please?

You don't need the HP setup, or to mount them vertically. I have mine mounted on each side of the center of my front bumper, bracketed to the mesh horizontally. Had the same setup on my E92 and it worked PERFECTLY. Mounting below the headlight is typically what you want, because when a LEO targets you, they often aim for the license plate or that area if you dont have one, so they're essentially shooting right towards your jammers if you mount them where I have mine.

you can't really see in the image, but I've circled where they're mounted.

Originally Posted by Elitehend26

Well guys we have many different speed detection capabilities.. One advantage is being on a motorcycle and running laser. Most of the time people do not notice the officer(talking from my personal experience). Anyhow, jammers do work, but sometimes we could detect it. Specially when ur the only vehicle on the road. "Guesstimation" of a vehicle speed is expected when we go to court. We are trained for weeks in just guesstimation at the academy. An officer could lie, but i could tell u a vehicle speed just by looking at it, and guarantee u that im no more then three miles over or under.. This is allowed by case law ofcourse and expected by te courts. Anyway back to the jammers, they are very effective, but if i notice that my laser gives me the indication, and i could single out the car, i will pull it over and check for jammer installations around the vehicle, and i know what im looking for.. Since i do my homework. Just keep this in mind. They do work but they can also get u in trouble. Final note, long live the 335 community!! Be safe guys..

my lawyers would have a field day with this if you or anyone from your department ever issued me a citation. Visual estimation is typically not enough to substantiate a finding of guilty. typically a radar or laser confirmation is required by most judges, and many of the codes ( VA included if people do their homework ) require this to be found guilty. And once I flick the parking aid switch after jamming you, prove to a judge that my jammer isn't an aftermarket parking sensor.

Originally Posted by Homers17

A better idea would be to NOT drive at triple digit speeds

I don't remember asking for your advice, nor caring about your response. lets try to keep the thread on topic, and not pollute it with statements irrelevant to the OPs questions.

[InsanePineapple]

Originally Posted by ZTZ1010

Visual estimation is typically not enough to substantiate a finding of guilty. typically a radar or laser confirmation is required by most judges, and many of the codes ( VA included if people do their homework ) require this to be found guilty. And once I flick the parking aid switch after jamming you, prove to a judge that my jammer isn't an aftermarket parking sensor.

I guess my case and my friend's case is a little bit different as we were both paced by cops (not at the same time, two separate occasions). No radar as we both had radar detectors. We both went to judges but neither got the ticket dropped, that's with my friend spending weeks researching defenses (including everything you listed and more). My theory is that the video footage from the cop's car would show how fast he was going and where we are relative to him.