GIAC stage II flash...

99three · 03-16-2011, 09:02 PM

I will be getting the GIAC stage II flash installed next week but curious if the software will be eliminating the need to purchase the down-pipe fix > http://www.redline-motorworks.com/pr...ipe-fix-v3.htm
Does anyone know if the stage 2 software takes care of the dp fix?

Iwantm3 · 03-16-2011, 09:14 PM

I don't think so

only1 · 03-16-2011, 09:14 PM

No. You will need the dp fix.

99three · 03-16-2011, 09:24 PM

Oh snap! Mark at Pfaff told me the stage II flash comes with the fix. Unless he's talking about a newer fix or he could be simply mistaken. Perhaps Austin can chime in.

sleepergm · 03-17-2011, 02:12 AM

My stage 2 GIAC with the newest flash needs the downpipe fix ... I am using the Burger Tuning one. Have fun with the tune.

tscdennab · 03-17-2011, 03:27 AM

It doesn't have a downpipe fix.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 03-17-2011, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tscdennab

It doesn't have a downpipe fix.

Confirmed.

They could do it, of course (in Europe almost all tuners offer this service if requested) but will not as tampering with emissions behaviour of a car is a criminal offense, IIRC.

Alpina_B3_Lux

only1 · 03-17-2011, 04:24 AM

Mark may be correct.....I have been running my stg 2 race flash now since march of 2010. I have had the burger v3 fix installed at the same time. I was running fully catless and got codes after running smoothly for 3-4 months. They were secondary cat codes and i could not get rid of them. I then changed my exhaust setup back to stock but with the catless dp's still in place and disabled the dp fix to try to get rid of some of the codes that terry said are hard to get rid of. As soon as the stock exhaust went back on the codes dissapeared, literally on the drive home from the shop. Now keep in mind i disabled the dp fix so it should have no effect on my cel.
Either way i am still running catless dp's with stock exhaust and no codes with the flash. So my car is an anomaly or giac did alter the software so it doesnt throw codes....highly unlikely. I tried asking terry on n54tech but got no response.
This car is strange to say the least, but it runs without issue and when i scan with the bt no codes.....

BobS · 03-17-2011, 05:41 AM

It doesn't have the dp fix, I have the burger one. The tune is awesome, tons of power, you'll love it!

99three · 03-17-2011, 02:20 PM

Thanks for the responses. Question: Does the dp fix tune out the CEL light completely or does it still provide a signal indicating there is an actual problem?

vasillalov · 03-17-2011, 03:14 PM

DP fix = CEL gone!

Been running it since April of last year!

BobS · 03-17-2011, 03:29 PM

It fixes it completely, no codes or lights at all.

99three · 03-17-2011, 05:28 PM

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my earlier ask. I'm worried that the dp fix clears all CEL issues. If that's the case how would you know if you actually have a real problem???

only1 · 03-17-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99three

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my earlier ask. I'm worried that the dp fix clears all CEL issues. If that's the case how would you know if you actually have a real problem???

you would get a code if something is actually wrong.

bryce · 03-17-2011, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99three

Sorry, I wasn't clear in my earlier ask. I'm worried that the dp fix clears all CEL issues. If that's the case how would you know if you actually have a real problem???

all the downpipe fix does is manipulate the readings from the secondary oxygen sensors, so the dme "thinks" there are still cats in place. any other issues with the car will still trigger CEL's

99three · 03-18-2011, 09:24 PM

Any recommendations where to get a dp fix?

vasillalov · 03-18-2011, 10:43 PM

n54tuning.com is based off Canada, right? They carry all the BMS products and they should be able to get you a BMS downpipe fix.

03-16-2011, 09:02 PM	#1
99three Banned 25 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 993, e92, e36, F355, Z32, Jag Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in the 416 iTrader: (3)	GIAC stage II flash... I will be getting the GIAC stage II flash installed next week but curious if the software will be eliminating the need to purchase the down-pipe fix > http://www.redline-motorworks.com/pr...ipe-fix-v3.htm Does anyone know if the stage 2 software takes care of the dp fix?
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

03-16-2011, 09:14 PM	#2
Iwantm3 Banned 34 Rep 1,284 Posts Drives: 335i M sport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: US AND A I likeeeee iTrader: (1)	I don't think so
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-16-2011, 09:14 PM	#3
only1 Lieutenant 28 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 07 Z06, 09 e90335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Markham iTrader: (5)	No. You will need the dp fix.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-16-2011, 09:24 PM	#4
99three Banned 25 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 993, e92, e36, F355, Z32, Jag Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in the 416 iTrader: (3)	Oh snap! Mark at Pfaff told me the stage II flash comes with the fix. Unless he's talking about a newer fix or he could be simply mistaken. Perhaps Austin can chime in.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 02:12 AM	#5
sleepergm Lieutenant 39 Rep 541 Posts Drives: White 335i M-Tech Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (2)	My stage 2 GIAC with the newest flash needs the downpipe fix ... I am using the Burger Tuning one. Have fun with the tune. __________________ 335 E92 - M-Tech - Eisenmann Race - Custom DP -RBturbos / Stage2 - GIAC S2 - Injen CAI - Forge FMIC - Forge DV's - Stri Gauges - ATI Pod - AEM Air/Fuel - Ericsson Carbon Trunk - Carbon Splitters - ER Charge Pipe - ER Engine Cover - Koni FSD - HR Sport - Brembo Racing Brakes - ICONZ custom rims - RPI Scoops - Burger O2 Sim
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 03:27 AM	#6
tscdennab Banned 153 Rep 1,809 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Europe iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW [6.24]	It doesn't have a downpipe fix.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 04:24 AM	#8
only1 Lieutenant 28 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 07 Z06, 09 e90335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Markham iTrader: (5)	Mark may be correct.....I have been running my stg 2 race flash now since march of 2010. I have had the burger v3 fix installed at the same time. I was running fully catless and got codes after running smoothly for 3-4 months. They were secondary cat codes and i could not get rid of them. I then changed my exhaust setup back to stock but with the catless dp's still in place and disabled the dp fix to try to get rid of some of the codes that terry said are hard to get rid of. As soon as the stock exhaust went back on the codes dissapeared, literally on the drive home from the shop. Now keep in mind i disabled the dp fix so it should have no effect on my cel. Either way i am still running catless dp's with stock exhaust and no codes with the flash. So my car is an anomaly or giac did alter the software so it doesnt throw codes....highly unlikely. I tried asking terry on n54tech but got no response. This car is strange to say the least, but it runs without issue and when i scan with the bt no codes.....
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 05:41 AM	#9
BobS Colonel 98 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	It doesn't have the dp fix, I have the burger one. The tune is awesome, tons of power, you'll love it! __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 02:20 PM	#10
99three Banned 25 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 993, e92, e36, F355, Z32, Jag Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in the 416 iTrader: (3)	Thanks for the responses. Question: Does the dp fix tune out the CEL light completely or does it still provide a signal indicating there is an actual problem?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 03:14 PM	#11
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1131 Rep 5,404 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	DP fix = CEL gone! Been running it since April of last year! __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 03:29 PM	#12
BobS Colonel 98 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	It fixes it completely, no codes or lights at all. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-17-2011, 05:28 PM	#13
99three Banned 25 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 993, e92, e36, F355, Z32, Jag Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in the 416 iTrader: (3)	Sorry, I wasn't clear in my earlier ask. I'm worried that the dp fix clears all CEL issues. If that's the case how would you know if you actually have a real problem???
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-18-2011, 09:24 PM	#16
99three Banned 25 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 993, e92, e36, F355, Z32, Jag Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in the 416 iTrader: (3)	Any recommendations where to get a dp fix?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-18-2011, 10:43 PM	#17
vasillalov Mad Linux Guru On The Loose 1131 Rep 5,404 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5) Garage List 2023 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i E90 [8.00]	n54tuning.com is based off Canada, right? They carry all the BMS products and they should be able to get you a BMS downpipe fix. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote