11.26 at 127.79mph At Famoso w/no LSD

hotrod182 · 05-14-2011, 03:33 PM

Did some runs last night at Famoso. Definitely better than Fontana.
But at the time of the run, the DA was still over 1300FT. And as you can see by the flag in the picture, there was a strong direct cross wind.

My best 60' time was 1.830. Running a 1.7 could put this right below a 11.0 ET. But I'm convinced its pretty futile trying to get a good 60' time without a LSD at these power levels. In the pursuit of a 10 second slip, the launch is way more valuable than adding 10 hp or so. Its amazing how just a slightly bad launch will ruin your times. And even on a run with a horrible ET, you can still have one of your best traps. On the other hand, the Nittos aren't hardcore DRs like the Hoosiers, as I drive around on them, and made the 300 mile round trip there on them. Not as much grip, but certainly less hassle than changing tires/wheels at the track. But I still think a LSD is essential, as I can't even get my tires to heat up evenly with a warm up burnout.

Unfortunately this run was made 10 minutes after my first run of the night that I screwed up by leaving the JB4 2nd gear boost limit set at 9psi. I think a proper cool down would have yielded a better trap. My last run still yielded a 127.91 mph trap, after 5 full qtr mile passes. 3 additional passes were aborted due to excessive wheel spin, and the car going sideways in 2nd gear.

The Vbox was accurate as usual, with a 1mph higher trap than the time slip. Hence, the 11.2 ET I predicted I would get at the track is exactly what I left with.

Unfortunately a sea level track is not to be had around here. Driving up to Sacramento presents a dilemma also. Make the 800 mile trip up there, and then be shut down for running quicker than a 11.5 with no roll cage. That would be a serious waste of time if you didn't get a spectacular first run before getting booted.

The 11.26 Et was still one of the best times for a street car out there.
It is still such a mild mannered car. Whisper quiet exhaust, etc. This time from Agoura to Famoso I averaged 32.2 mpg. Car was on --- empty, I put in 7 gallons, and still had 83 miles range left when I arrived at the race track.

Interestingly enough, one of the quickest street cars out there was a Ferrari 458 Italia. The last time here, I saw a Red one. I believe it ran high 11's. (It did only have 700 miles on it though). This time the guy in a black one definitely knew had to launch the thing. His first run was a 11.1 ET at somewhere around 125-126mph. The thing was on the factory low profile street tires! He did have some custom high flow cats+?? Sweet $300,000 car though. Thoroughly a classic Italian design, with some high tech video displays for the cluster. The analog gauges are displayed on a LCD screen. Kind of like a GTR.

From the Road And Track Summary:
458 Italia 11.0 at 128.5mph, 0-60: 3.0 sec. (Motor Trend: 11.1 sec)
C6 ZO6 11.9 at 123.5mph, 0-60: 3.6 sec
C6 ZR1 11.5 at 128.7mph, 0-60: 3.5 sec

Yeah, I know, someones friend's Z06 ran 10's at the track..but you get the point, the 458 is a pretty impressive machine. I think the rear engine design must help traction immensely.

I did 3 qtr mile runs the night before, so I got 8 qtr mile runs on the same bottle, with the last trap still at 127.91mph. Remember, during the Sacramento trap speed error days..this would have been a 130.5mph run.
FYI: My coupe was capable of trapping a full 3mph faster than the sedan, and 1 second quicker in the 60-130. Remarkable with a smaller jet and meth nozzle to add to the mystery.

I'm not going to try the JB3 in the sedan though. After using the JB4 nitrous integration, you realize how well it works, its just not worth the risk without it. You can set your minimum boost, rpm, WOT, timing, AFR, limits to control nitrous deactivation windows. Pretty slick setup. And you can see it all on the graphs. FYI..the run was done on about 15psi avg boost.

I think if I didn't screw up the first run, on a new bottle, and lower DA, it might have been closer to 10's. But as always..its getting all the factors to line up for a 10 second qtr mile....But with the N54, its only a matter of time.....Especially when the cooler winter temps come around again.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 05-14-2011, 03:42 PM

Damn. Nice runs. That is moving. I bet you get some awkward looks from all the "Big" engine guys...

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 05-14-2011, 03:44 PM

Are you on M/T bias-ply cheater slicks?

N54_Fan · 05-14-2011, 03:48 PM

Congrats!! Thats rather impressive.

I know you have a quick car and I was trying to look at your profile to see what mods you have. So besides JB4 what else you have in that thing?

Sparky66 · 05-14-2011, 03:54 PM

NOS

Forcefed3 · 05-14-2011, 03:57 PM

Wow, nice times.

hotrod182 · 05-14-2011, 04:02 PM

This was done on a 046 jet, and CM10 nozzle. FYI. the coupe ran a 028 and CM5 Nozzle! This car still clocks 11.6 at 123 mph on meth, pump gas.

Stock turbos, stock intercooler, stock rear cat back.
2.5" URs, Passenger seats removed. 17K1, Nitto 555R/NT01R
JB4, BMS DCI.

Really no high dollar mods, or anything that couldn't be removed in one day. The down pipes are the only heavy install items. I still have never noticed any significant trap speed increase from the downpipes, however, they probably are necessary at higher exhaust flow rates with nitrous. Trans shifting is working good with the JB4 nitrous integration, as you can set the shift delays, etc.

Time to update my signature again, lol.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 05-14-2011, 04:38 PM

I'd be willing to bet that an FMIC would do nothing for you on the dragstrip. Doubt you'd be able to get any cooler IATs after meth and N20. It might even be a hinderance as upgraded FMICs usually weigh more than the stock POS.

Exhaust prob wouldn't do you much help besides the slight weight reduction.

Irishace · 05-14-2011, 04:55 PM

Grats again Hotrod!

hotrod182 · 05-14-2011, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335coupe

I'd be willing to bet that an FMIC would do nothing for you on the dragstrip. Doubt you'd be able to get any cooler IATs after meth and N20. It might even be a hinderance as upgraded FMICs usually weigh more than the stock POS.

Exhaust prob wouldn't do you much help besides the slight weight reduction.

Weight savings of the exhuast system would probably be my biggest hope anyways. The secondary cats probably cost some hp also

Sneeze · 05-14-2011, 06:07 PM

Congrats! Way to represent!
Tough night for me. Weather so damn hot and i coudnt get traction all night.

hotrod182 · 05-14-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thr33fivei

Congrats! Way to represent!
Tough night for me. Weather so damn hot and i coudnt get traction all night.

Yup...the temps cooled.down later...but the traction got worse. Either way...it was good seeing you and everyone else.

Sneeze · 05-14-2011, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Yup...the temps cooled.down later...but the traction got worse. Either way...it was good seeing you and everyone else.

With a 1.6 60' you are definitely in the 10s. I wish i could stay longer.

Brey335i · 05-14-2011, 07:30 PM

In before cn555ic complaining about JB4 having nitrous integration while he doesn't

Nice times though as usual. With an LSD and a proper burnout with MT's I bet you could hit the 10's

cn555ic · 05-14-2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brey335i

In before cn555ic complaining about JB4 having nitrous integration while he doesn't

Nice times though as usual. With an LSD and a proper burnout with MT's I bet you could hit the 10's

You rang!! Lol. It's is nice though.

DaFish · 05-15-2011, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brey335i

In before cn555ic complaining about JB4 having nitrous integration while he doesn't

Nice times though as usual. With an LSD and a proper burnout with MT's I bet you could hit the 10's

and beat a z06, zR1, 458... just incredible ! Nice job man, a real credit to your driving as well !

ianthegreat · 05-15-2011, 11:23 AM

Nice times

pentaxis · 05-15-2011, 11:52 AM

I wonder if the sedan is running slower traps specifically because of the nitrous control. Even though you were running a smaller jet size, you were on the juice longer periods of time most likely as you were engaging earlier, and running it through the shifts.

no arguing that how it is set up now is both better and safer for both motor and transmission though. All about the balance of power and control when it comes to the giggle juice.

pentaxis · 05-15-2011, 11:53 AM

Congrats on the wicked fastness too btw. A variable change or two and you are 10 second bound!

MercedesBenz_Forever · 05-15-2011, 12:46 PM

Nice times Warren.... people kept asking how the heck is this little BMW trapping as high as the 458 Italia

Syndicategt · 05-15-2011, 01:16 PM

Wait, did I read this right? 11.6 Done on pump gas and no No2???? Wow man nice times. Your car is a factory oddball

Brian135i · 05-15-2011, 01:56 PM

Congrats Warren...I hope, when I come back, that my car can hang with yours.

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hotrod182 . 829 Rep 3,982 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	11.26 at 127.79mph At Famoso w/no LSD Did some runs last night at Famoso. Definitely better than Fontana. But at the time of the run, the DA was still over 1300FT. And as you can see by the flag in the picture, there was a strong direct cross wind. My best 60' time was 1.830. Running a 1.7 could put this right below a 11.0 ET. But I'm convinced its pretty futile trying to get a good 60' time without a LSD at these power levels. In the pursuit of a 10 second slip, the launch is way more valuable than adding 10 hp or so. Its amazing how just a slightly bad launch will ruin your times. And even on a run with a horrible ET, you can still have one of your best traps. On the other hand, the Nittos aren't hardcore DRs like the Hoosiers, as I drive around on them, and made the 300 mile round trip there on them. Not as much grip, but certainly less hassle than changing tires/wheels at the track. But I still think a LSD is essential, as I can't even get my tires to heat up evenly with a warm up burnout. Unfortunately this run was made 10 minutes after my first run of the night that I screwed up by leaving the JB4 2nd gear boost limit set at 9psi. I think a proper cool down would have yielded a better trap. My last run still yielded a 127.91 mph trap, after 5 full qtr mile passes. 3 additional passes were aborted due to excessive wheel spin, and the car going sideways in 2nd gear. The Vbox was accurate as usual, with a 1mph higher trap than the time slip. Hence, the 11.2 ET I predicted I would get at the track is exactly what I left with. Unfortunately a sea level track is not to be had around here. Driving up to Sacramento presents a dilemma also. Make the 800 mile trip up there, and then be shut down for running quicker than a 11.5 with no roll cage. That would be a serious waste of time if you didn't get a spectacular first run before getting booted. The 11.26 Et was still one of the best times for a street car out there. It is still such a mild mannered car. Whisper quiet exhaust, etc. This time from Agoura to Famoso I averaged 32.2 mpg. Car was on --- empty, I put in 7 gallons, and still had 83 miles range left when I arrived at the race track. Interestingly enough, one of the quickest street cars out there was a Ferrari 458 Italia. The last time here, I saw a Red one. I believe it ran high 11's. (It did only have 700 miles on it though). This time the guy in a black one definitely knew had to launch the thing. His first run was a 11.1 ET at somewhere around 125-126mph. The thing was on the factory low profile street tires! He did have some custom high flow cats+?? Sweet $300,000 car though. Thoroughly a classic Italian design, with some high tech video displays for the cluster. The analog gauges are displayed on a LCD screen. Kind of like a GTR. From the Road And Track Summary: 458 Italia 11.0 at 128.5mph, 0-60: 3.0 sec. (Motor Trend: 11.1 sec) C6 ZO6 11.9 at 123.5mph, 0-60: 3.6 sec C6 ZR1 11.5 at 128.7mph, 0-60: 3.5 sec Yeah, I know, someones friend's Z06 ran 10's at the track..but you get the point, the 458 is a pretty impressive machine. I think the rear engine design must help traction immensely. I did 3 qtr mile runs the night before, so I got 8 qtr mile runs on the same bottle, with the last trap still at 127.91mph. Remember, during the Sacramento trap speed error days..this would have been a 130.5mph run. FYI: My coupe was capable of trapping a full 3mph faster than the sedan, and 1 second quicker in the 60-130. Remarkable with a smaller jet and meth nozzle to add to the mystery. I'm not going to try the JB3 in the sedan though. After using the JB4 nitrous integration, you realize how well it works, its just not worth the risk without it. You can set your minimum boost, rpm, WOT, timing, AFR, limits to control nitrous deactivation windows. Pretty slick setup. And you can see it all on the graphs. FYI..the run was done on about 15psi avg boost. I think if I didn't screw up the first run, on a new bottle, and lower DA, it might have been closer to 10's. But as always..its getting all the factors to line up for a 10 second qtr mile....But with the N54, its only a matter of time.....Especially when the cooler winter temps come around again. Attached Images __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) Last edited by hotrod182; 05-14-2011 at 03:55 PM..
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GeorgiaTech335coupe Lieutenant Colonel 78 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Damn. Nice runs. That is moving. I bet you get some awkward looks from all the "Big" engine guys... __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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N54_Fan Lieutenant 34 Rep 502 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2008 Location: Parts unknown iTrader: (0)	Congrats!! Thats rather impressive. I know you have a quick car and I was trying to look at your profile to see what mods you have. So besides JB4 what else you have in that thing?
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hotrod182 . 829 Rep 3,982 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	This was done on a 046 jet, and CM10 nozzle. FYI. the coupe ran a 028 and CM5 Nozzle! This car still clocks 11.6 at 123 mph on meth, pump gas. Stock turbos, stock intercooler, stock rear cat back. 2.5" URs, Passenger seats removed. 17K1, Nitto 555R/NT01R JB4, BMS DCI. Really no high dollar mods, or anything that couldn't be removed in one day. The down pipes are the only heavy install items. I still have never noticed any significant trap speed increase from the downpipes, however, they probably are necessary at higher exhaust flow rates with nitrous. Trans shifting is working good with the JB4 nitrous integration, as you can set the shift delays, etc. Time to update my signature again, lol. __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) Last edited by hotrod182; 05-14-2011 at 07:36 PM..
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GeorgiaTech335coupe Lieutenant Colonel 78 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I'd be willing to bet that an FMIC would do nothing for you on the dragstrip. Doubt you'd be able to get any cooler IATs after meth and N20. It might even be a hinderance as upgraded FMICs usually weigh more than the stock POS. Exhaust prob wouldn't do you much help besides the slight weight reduction. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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Irishace ElevenPointFive 327 Rep 2,450 Posts Drives: E90 335 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Grats again Hotrod! __________________ 2008 E90 335xi - N54 Daily Driver MHD Stage 2+ ~ CPE DPs ~ BMS Intake ~ AMS FMIC
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Sneeze Captain 32 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LA iTrader: (3)	Congrats! Way to represent! Tough night for me. Weather so damn hot and i coudnt get traction all night.
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Brey335i Banned 113 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	In before cn555ic complaining about JB4 having nitrous integration while he doesn't Nice times though as usual. With an LSD and a proper burnout with MT's I bet you could hit the 10's
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ianthegreat Colonel 60 Rep 2,314 Posts Drives: n54 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh/Houston iTrader: (1)	Nice times
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pentaxis Captain 30 Rep 685 Posts Drives: Space Grey E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (3)	I wonder if the sedan is running slower traps specifically because of the nitrous control. Even though you were running a smaller jet size, you were on the juice longer periods of time most likely as you were engaging earlier, and running it through the shifts. no arguing that how it is set up now is both better and safer for both motor and transmission though. All about the balance of power and control when it comes to the giggle juice.
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pentaxis Captain 30 Rep 685 Posts Drives: Space Grey E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (3)	Congrats on the wicked fastness too btw. A variable change or two and you are 10 second bound!
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MercedesBenz_Forever German Cars Fan 20 Rep 243 Posts Drives: Mercedes Benz E63 AMG Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA, USA iTrader: (0)	Nice times Warren.... people kept asking how the heck is this little BMW trapping as high as the 458 Italia __________________ 2007 E63 w/P30 ---> 12.12 @ 118.54 (99.99% STOCK - Seeking 12.0x @ 119)
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Brian135i Lieutenant 49 Rep 469 Posts Drives: BMW 16' M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [0.00]	Congrats Warren...I hope, when I come back, that my car can hang with yours.
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