What Does BMW M Stand For Today

Banleno007 · 02-15-2012, 11:51 AM

Saw a discussion thread online debating the upcoming 550d xDrive and whether it's a "real M car."

What does that mean today, in the age of SUV M cars? http://cparente.wordpress.com/2012/0...-mean-anymore/

pikcachu · 02-15-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Banleno007

Saw a discussion thread online debating the upcoming 550d xDrive and whether it's a "real M car."

What does that mean today, in the age of SUV M cars? http://cparente.wordpress.com/2012/0...-mean-anymore/

It means that you have "M"uch "M"ore "M"oney to spend

-c- · 02-15-2012, 01:01 PM

MOTORSPORT!!

mike63 · 02-15-2012, 01:13 PM

Bavarian Motor Sport

ENINTY · 02-15-2012, 01:53 PM

The M stands for "MARKETING".

yakev724 · 02-15-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ENINTY

The M stands for "MARKETING".

someone gets it

Red Bread · 02-15-2012, 02:23 PM

I think it stands for Maybe you can have a limited slip.

datbimmerdoe · 02-15-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ENINTY

The M stands for "MARKETING".

yup

m630 · 02-15-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ENINTY

The M stands for "MARKETING".

+1

az34 · 02-15-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ENINTY

The M stands for "MARKETING".

not always. Hopefully they are still gone build "true" M cars like the mighty new F10 M5.

ENINTY · 02-16-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by az34

not always. Hopefully they are still gone build "true" M cars like the mighty new F10 M5.

I counter with the:

X5M
X6M

Really?

John_01 · 02-17-2012, 06:03 AM

mostly its //Marketing...

Robin_NL · 02-17-2012, 08:39 AM

^^^^Having had 2 //M cars in the past, at the moment, I just really do think, M mostly stands for Marketing.

But hey. They look ok and drive ok-ish.

ragingclue · 02-17-2012, 08:55 AM

In the case of the X5M and X6M, I believe it's short for "Moo".

Singletrack · 02-17-2012, 10:09 AM

Hate hate hate!

This thread is overflowing with it.

Hate on, haters!

: )

m630 · 02-17-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by az34

not always. Hopefully they are still gone build "true" M cars like the mighty new F10 M5.

the new M5 is not a true "M" nor mighty , sorry to burst your bubble

az34 · 02-17-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m630

the new M5 is not a true "M" nor mighty , sorry to burst your bubble

Why?? Don't tell me you don't like turbos. P.S. you did'nt burst anything or maybe 560HP is'nt enough for you!

Singletrack · 02-17-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m630

the new M5 is not a true "M" nor mighty , sorry to burst your bubble

So you've driven it?

ENINTY · 02-18-2012, 09:10 AM

So this is what I don't get about M cars. The real M car that BMW got its reputation for "M" was the E30 M3. It was a de-contented car built to be tracked and was actually campaigned by BMW. In Europe it was available with a track-based getrag ("dogleg") manual transmission where you could change the gearset in the pits to match gearing to the track.

The new M cars are far more capable than the E30 M3, but why would you track them? They are big, heavy and require so much horsepower and complexity between active suspension and active braking to stay on the track that they cost $80 - $100K. If I were to want a car to spend my time track driving, I'd buy a car made for the track, like an Atom, or a Lotus, or any number of real track cars. Making an SUV into an "M" car is a joke. Yeh, its gets around the Ring really fast, but what's the point; it's not like anyone really buys a X6M to track it.

The new M cars have great performance, but on the street, where can you get the benefit? If you want a track car, then buy a used regular 3-Series for $30K, and buy a used Elise for $30K and track it.

"M" stands for Marketing, or maybe machismo...

Robin_NL · 02-18-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ENINTY

So this is what I don't get about M cars. The real M car that BMW got its reputation for "M" was the E30 M3. It was a de-contented car built to be tracked and was actually campaigned by BMW. In Europe it was available with a track-based getrag ("dogleg") manual transmission where you could change the gearset in the pits to match gearing to the track.

The new M cars are far more capable than the E30 M3, but why would you track them? They are big, heavy and require so much horsepower and complexity between active suspension and active braking to stay on the track that they cost $80 - $100K. If I were to want a car to spend my time track driving, I'd buy a car made for the track, like an Atom, or a Lotus, or any number of real track cars. Making an SUV into an "M" car is a joke. Yeh, its gets around the Ring really fast, but what's the point; it's not like anyone really buys a X6M to track it.

The new M cars have great performance, but on the street, where can you get the benefit? If you want a track car, then buy a used regular 3-Series for $30K, and buy a used Elise for $30K and track it.

"M" stands for Marketing, or maybe machismo...

In bold: I always thought it was THIS car:

ENINTY · 02-18-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Hood

In bold: I always thought it was THIS car:

E30 M3 in the sense that it was actually sold in quantity.

Singletrack · 02-18-2012, 01:10 PM

This is the funniest thread on m3post.

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ENINTY Banned 185 Rep 3,415 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Sport Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	So this is what I don't get about M cars. The real M car that BMW got its reputation for "M" was the E30 M3. It was a de-contented car built to be tracked and was actually campaigned by BMW. In Europe it was available with a track-based getrag ("dogleg") manual transmission where you could change the gearset in the pits to match gearing to the track. The new M cars are far more capable than the E30 M3, but why would you track them? They are big, heavy and require so much horsepower and complexity between active suspension and active braking to stay on the track that they cost $80 - $100K. If I were to want a car to spend my time track driving, I'd buy a car made for the track, like an Atom, or a Lotus, or any number of real track cars. Making an SUV into an "M" car is a joke. Yeh, its gets around the Ring really fast, but what's the point; it's not like anyone really buys a X6M to track it. The new M cars have great performance, but on the street, where can you get the benefit? If you want a track car, then buy a used regular 3-Series for $30K, and buy a used Elise for $30K and track it. "M" stands for Marketing, or maybe machismo...
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