is this a downgrade??

OB-JD · 07-10-2007, 04:39 PM

hey guys i currently have a 2005 b6 s4 and i wanted to know if any one thinks that swapping to a 335i coupe bmw is a down grade. i really like the look i know that s4 is faster stock but i can always get a chip what do you guys think?

!Xoible · 07-10-2007, 04:44 PM

a lot of people will argue against this since it's a bimmer forum. but i do think it is a downgrade.
it's not about which is faster, it's about the class of cars. maybe the new Evo is faster than 335i but it is still a downgrade.

John 070 · 07-10-2007, 04:45 PM

I think it's a downgrade, as the S is the equivalent of an M in the BMW world. Not everyone needs an M, and not everyone is satisfied without an M. You'll be driving this car, so only you can decide...

M3350Z · 07-10-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Benario

hey guys i currently have a 2005 b6 s4 and i wanted to know if any one thinks that swapping to a 335i coupe bmw is a down grade. i really like the look i know that s4 is faster stock but i can always get a chip what do you guys think?

Not only is it not a downgrade

but you are incorrect. A stock 335i is faster than a stock S4 b5, b6, b7. I had an S4 on my tail the other day trying to play with me. Dropped down to about 50 mph, dropped to 2nd, BYE BYE S4

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And if you don't believe me just look at the numbers. Magazines rate the S4 0-60 at about 5.3. The 335i is rated at 5.0 and that's a generous #. A lot of poeple on here have been running 4.8ish bone stock.

elucas730 · 07-10-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M3350Z

And if you don't believe me just look at the numbers. Magazines rate the S4 0-60 at about 5.3. The 335i is rated at 5.0 and that's a generous #. A lot of poeple on here have been running 4.8ish bone stock.

And that's 0-60 times with a big clutch dump for the S4. You wanna look at some telling numbers, look at trap speeds...102 for the S4 and 106 for the 335i. HUGE difference.

I also wouldn't consider it a downgrade, but I personally could never go for an S4 as it is heavy, unbalanced, and understeers like a pig.

nyc335i · 07-10-2007, 05:18 PM

It's like comparing apples and oranges. An s4 is meant to be more of a showoff sporty car as opposed to a 335i which puts on an impression of a regular run of the mill 3 series then just rips your car up in shreds after you hit the throttle.

For the exclusivness i'd rather have the s4...
For a everyday car i'd rathr have the 335i

!Xoible · 07-10-2007, 05:20 PM

go M3 man. forget both cars. M3

LEDZEP · 07-10-2007, 05:21 PM

I think that the fact that you're asking this question means you buy your cars for all the wrong reasons. Try getting what you want sometime, not what you think will impress others.

scollins · 07-10-2007, 05:21 PM

What do I think? I think....

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

Come on, first post, on a bimmer forum, is if going from an '05 S4 to a 335i is a down grade? As well as the comment that an S4 is faster, which is highly debatable. That just smacks of troll-ish behavior to me.

Also, I don't see the Audi S series as a comparison to the BMW M series. I think the Audi RS series is more like the BMW M series.

!Xoible · 07-10-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scollins

What do I think? I think....

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

Come on, first post, on a bimmer forum, is if going from an '05 S4 to a 335i is a down grade? As well as the comment that an S4 is faster, which is highly debatable. That just smacks of troll-ish behavior to me.

Also, I don't see the Audi S series as a comparison to the BMW M series. I think the Audi RS series is more like the BMW M series.

therefore an upgrade would be to go with M3, right?

Revlis · 07-10-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Benario

hey guys i currently have a 2005 b6 s4 and i wanted to know if any one thinks that swapping to a 335i coupe bmw is a down grade. i really like the look i know that s4 is faster stock but i can always get a chip what do you guys think?

I think it depends on what you are looking for? Drive both and then decide. I found the 335 to be the right way to go cause of the "feel" no real solid reason, the 335 just felt better to me...

LEDZEP · 07-10-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Revlis

I think it depends on what you are looking for? Drive both and then decide. I found the 335 to be the right way to go cause of the "feel" no real solid reason, the 335 just felt better to me...

Look, I've just about had it with your snide comments and smart ass remarks mister.

Meet me out by the flagpole after school.

QwaZyWabbiT · 07-10-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elucas730

I also wouldn't consider it a downgrade, but I personally could never go for an S4 as it is heavy, unbalanced, and understeers like a pig.

lol +1

ShinBalNom · 07-10-2007, 07:43 PM

I would wait for the M3 too...

SLC 335i · 07-10-2007, 07:52 PM

S4 is a fancy Passat. The 335i is unique. Best car ever for this price!

DFW_M · 07-11-2007, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SLC 335i

S4 is a fancy Passat. The 335i is unique. Best car ever for this price!

A4 is a fancy Passat...
Also, nothing wrong with the passat, for that money, I'd rather have one of those than Camry or Accord...

I don't think it is a downgrade or upgrade... It is a different car all together. Who cares about the 0-60 numbers. They are both fun to drive, very refined. Bimmer has better driving feel, Audi has better interior.

I'd keep the S4 if I were you as you would loose both ways -- on your Audi sale and (currently overpriced) 335 purchase...

FirstClass · 07-11-2007, 08:10 AM

1) Yes it is a downgrade no matter what anyone says. An S4 is a badass alcantara wrapped machine inside that vastly outclasses the 335. It's also a higher calibre car (A4 = 335, S4 > 335)
2) The S4 isn't faster at all, not by a long shot. The 335 is the faster car unless it's raining or snowing.

tjnptel1 · 07-11-2007, 08:18 AM

depends on features?

i.e. navigation, parktronic, premium, sport etc.

JmanE55 · 07-11-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinBalNom

I would wait for the M3 too...

+2

Crazy Bimmer · 07-11-2007, 10:47 AM

Drive the 335i, you will realize its not a downgrade at all.

I had a modded A4 and driven a stock S4 many times to compare. The 335i is still a better handling car. IMO

Plus the 335 isnt a gas hog.

shragon · 07-11-2007, 11:39 AM

not a downgrade imho.

TheAcAvenger · 07-11-2007, 11:43 AM

It's a sidestep. In years past, i'd agree. M = S, and the 335i is no S. But the S4 has never been on that level of the M (and I'm a pretty big Audi fan). For me, the proper version is RS = M. My loaded 335i costs just around the same as an S4 and they put out similar performance. I heavily considered both and went with the 3 do to the ease of modding.

Just do it

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John 070 Lieutenant General 1707 Rep 14,829 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	I think it's a downgrade, as the S is the equivalent of an M in the BMW world. Not everyone needs an M, and not everyone is satisfied without an M. You'll be driving this car, so only you can decide...
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nyc335i Second Lieutenant 15 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	It's like comparing apples and oranges. An s4 is meant to be more of a showoff sporty car as opposed to a 335i which puts on an impression of a regular run of the mill 3 series then just rips your car up in shreds after you hit the throttle. For the exclusivness i'd rather have the s4... For a everyday car i'd rathr have the 335i
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TheAcAvenger Brigadier General 135 Rep 3,132 Posts Drives: 2018 R35 GTR / 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 757 > Nova > Denver iTrader: (1)	It's a sidestep. In years past, i'd agree. M = S, and the 335i is no S. But the S4 has never been on that level of the M (and I'm a pretty big Audi fan). For me, the proper version is RS = M. My loaded 335i costs just around the same as an S4 and they put out similar performance. I heavily considered both and went with the 3 do to the ease of modding. Just do it __________________ 2018 R35 GT-R Cicio800 \| 2007 E92 335i - RB Turbos, TC Kline DA Coils, HPA M3 Suspension, Quaife LSD, Stoptech BBK, JB4, FuelIT, AR Downpipes, RDSport Quads, Stett OC, Helix IC, Volk TE-37, Vorsteiner V-35, OSS Headlights \| Retired - 2015 F82 M4
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