[fl335i]

Guys, I've updated from 4_24 maps to 5_23 Beta Maps. Uploaded stages 0, 1, 2 & 3 to my procede. There is a file in the new zip file called "FBO Upgraded Turbos 6MT.pcd". I did not upload this file. What exactly is this file? Do I need to upload it to the procede?

[JamesM3M5]

Connect to the Procede and open the appropriate stage for your mods. Looks like without any intake or DP mods, you need to load up Stage 1 from the 6MT folder. ONLY ONE stays with the Procede. You cannot load multiple map sets to the Procede. You're not FBO nor do you have upgraded turbos, so don't load anything other than Stage 1 6MT.

[fl335i]

woops. Shizi I downloaded them all lol. Guess the last one is there. So what does the FBO stand for anyway? What do the different stages all mean?

[jdbretz]

FBO mean Full Bolt On (Downpipes, intake, FMIC, and exhaust). The different stages are all for the varying level of mods individuals have. The higher the stage the more aggressive the map is. You need to have additional mods in order to run the more aggressive stages. Stage 0 is for a stock car. Stage 1 is for an intake or FMIC or both. Stage 2 is downpipes and intake and maybe a FMIC. Stage 3 is either FBO or downpipes, intake and meth. Some people will run Stage 3 with just meth, but I don't personally recommend it (my opinion only).

Those are *rough* descriptions of each stage, so look at them more as guidelines instead of fact. Keep in mind you should do of a datalog of whichever stage you choose to confirm it agrees with your particular vehicle.

[fl335i]

Ok, so sounds like I need stage 1. I have a HKS exhaust. That's pretty much it for engine mods. I refuse to do a CAI. I like the OEM filtering. I'm doing a sport oil cooler in the fall. My LSD and wheels don't really alter engine stages. Down pipes may be in my future depends on $. But overall I'm pretty happy with what I have. Just need that oil cooler & FMIC!

[secretsquirrel]

I wouldn't have tried to sway you to get at least some dci's until I saw you ask what FBO stands for. The factory filter is restrictive at higher boost levels. It's a cheap upgrade that will pay off. At the very least, look into aftermarket filter fortune stock box.

[fl335i]

^ I'm very car savy, just hate all the damn acronymns. I pulled my differential and put it back in myself, in my suburbia garage, after VAC put a Giken in it. I think I can handle a dual cone intake. I just don't like aftermarket intakes b/c they don't filter as well and the oil can ruin the MAF sensor, which this car does not have. But I have seen a lot of MAF cars get trashed when running K&N's or any other foam filter system.

EDIT: Just re-uploaded 5_23 Beta 6MT Stage 1 to the procede to make sure I'm on the correct map.

What about the 7-29 Autotune map they have under the download section now. Do you have to update the Autotune map? How do you update autotune and make sure you have the correct 5_23 map if you can only update one?

[sickem]

Originally Posted by jdbretz

FBO mean Full Bolt On (Downpipes, intake, FMIC, and exhaust). The different stages are all for the varying level of mods individuals have. The higher the stage the more aggressive the map is. You need to have additional mods in order to run the more aggressive stages. Stage 0 is for a stock car. Stage 1 is for an intake or FMIC or both. Stage 2 is downpipes and intake and maybe a FMIC. Stage 3 is either FBO or downpipes, intake and meth. Some people will run Stage 3 with just meth, but I don't personally recommend it (my opinion only).
Those are *rough* descriptions of each stage, so look at them more as guidelines instead of fact. Keep in mind you should do of a datalog of whichever stage you choose to confirm it agrees with your particular vehicle.

Your description is a bit off. The recommendations from Vishnu don't mention meth as a prerequisite for stage 3. Stage 0 is for users that can only get 91 octane (i.e., CA). Stage 1 is for tune only.

"Stg, 0, Stg1, Stg2 and Stg3 get increasingly aggressive. Stg 1 is appropriate for unmodified (or lightly modified) vehicles. Stg 2 is intended for more modified vehicles (ie, downpipes or FMIC). And Stg3 is intended for a fully modified cars (DCI and downpipes and FMIC). Using a map that is too aggressive for your hardware/conditions will result in inconsistent performance."

that said, you are correct in that they are rough guidelines and one should datalog upon bumping up to a higher stage in order to ensure that the car is running properly.

[BMWsky]

Originally Posted by fl335i

^ I'm very car savy, just hate all the damn acronymns. I pulled my differential and put it back in myself, in my suburbia garage, after VAC put a Giken in it. I think I can handle a dual cone intake. I just don't like aftermarket intakes b/c they don't filter as well and the oil can ruin the MAF sensor, which this car does not have. But I have seen a lot of MAF cars get trashed when running K&N's or any other foam filter system.

EDIT: Just re-uploaded 5_23 Beta 6MT Stage 1 to the procede to make sure I'm on the correct map.

What about the 7-29 Autotune map they have under the download section now. Do you have to update the Autotune map? How do you update autotune and make sure you have the correct 5_23 map if you can only update one?

This platform has shown time and time again the benefits of an aftermarket intake over stock. FWIW, CAI and DCI aren't the same thing.

[jdbretz]

Originally Posted by sickem

Your description is a bit off. The recommendations from Vishnu don't mention meth as a prerequisite for stage 3. Stage 0 is for users that can only get 91 octane (i.e., CA). Stage 1 is for tune only.

"Stg, 0, Stg1, Stg2 and Stg3 get increasingly aggressive. Stg 1 is appropriate for unmodified (or lightly modified) vehicles. Stg 2 is intended for more modified vehicles (ie, downpipes or FMIC). And Stg3 is intended for a fully modified cars (DCI and downpipes and FMIC). Using a map that is too aggressive for your hardware/conditions will result in inconsistent performance."

that said, you are correct in that they are rough guidelines and one should datalog upon bumping up to a higher stage in order to ensure that the car is running properly.

I did not say meth was a requirement for Stage 3. I said FBO was a requirement OR downpipes, intake and meth. You can run Stage 3 with either of those combinations.

EDIT: Here is a link with more of a description:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=%22stage

[guru_method]

Whatever....

[sickem]

Originally Posted by jdbretz

I did not say meth was a requirement for Stage 3. I said FBO was a requirement OR downpipes, intake and meth. You can run Stage 3 with either of those combinations.

EDIT: Here is a link with more of a description:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...light=%22stage

I gotcha. thanks for clarifying.

[fl335i]

back to the issue at hand. I re-uploaded Stg 1 5_23 Beta for 6MT. I get 93ocatane in FL and have a HKS exhaust. Should be fitting for Stage 1. What about the 7_29 Auto tune map they have for download?

[sickem]

Originally Posted by fl335i

What about the 7_29 Auto tune map they have for download?

what specifically do you want to know?

[jdbretz]

The 7-29 autotuning map is set up much differently than the aggressive maps. It has more of a linear boost curve. You will find the aggressive maps have much more midrange torque. I would recommend trying both of them out and seeing which one you prefer. Personally I like the aggressive maps better, but you may find the 7-29 are more to your liking. In case you aren't familiar with the autotuning function, you basically load up those maps and firmware and just drive your car. It will adjust itself either more or less aggressive depending on the quality of your fuel, weather conditions (hot/cold temps), and mods you have up to a boost level you set as the max boost you allow it to tune up to. It has been a while since I have used those maps, but I think the default settings should be fine for you to use if you wish to try them out.

[fl335i]

So I just upload the autotune map to the procede like I did the Stage 1 map. therefore my stage 1 map is gone from the procede, back to the whole it only contains one "map" be it Autotune or an Aggressive map.

[JamesM3M5]

The 7-29 maps are from 2011. I had that on my Procede back then, but once the aggressive maps came out, I never went back to the 7-29. I suppose I need to log more often, but the PWM meth keeps the engine happy hot or cold. I highly recommend the PWM meth system!

[sickem]

Originally Posted by fl335i

So I just upload the autotune map to the procede like I did the Stage 1 map. therefore my stage 1 map is gone from the procede, back to the whole it only contains one "map" be it Autotune or an Aggressive map.

Edit actually can he use the 111 firmware for the 7-29 maps?

[JamesM3M5]

Originally Posted by sickem

Edit actually can he use the 111 firmware for the 7-29 maps?

Ooh, good question. I don't know, myself.

[OpenFlash]

Do not mix and match different firmware/maps from different releases. Especially releases so far apart chronologically. They map and firmware are to be used together. Running and old map with new firmware may not work as it should.

[ArizSun21]

So...not to take over the thread but what stage should you run if you have Procede, Meth, Intake?

[jdbretz]

Originally Posted by ArizSun21

So...not to take over the thread but what stage should you run if you have Procede, Meth, Intake?

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