08-14-2012, 02:02 AM | #1 |
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Traffic Violation 21460 (a)
Eff. I just got a CA moving violation 21460 (A) - crossing double yellow lines and I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for fighting this charge. Basically I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and I don't have anything substantial to go off. Does anyone have recommendations for fighting City traffic violation tickets? I've read that a "Trial by Declaration" is a good idea since it only provides the citing officer 30 days to write his statement. Most of the time they miss this window of opportunity and the case is thrown out. I had one idea however, and I'll attach a picture for reference for what I'm talking about. Basically I felt that the the centerline wasn't properly identified since it used reflectors instead of actual paint. What do you think? Can I make a case off of this? I happen to be a Civil Engineer and am familiar with the MUTCD which standardizes road markings / signage so hopefully I can find something that proves this as an obsolete method of marking a road centerline. I'll repost as more information becomes available.
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08-14-2012, 02:12 AM | #2 |
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If you made a left turn across that line and the cop says you weren't allowed to, I would say go see the judge (edit: with that pic in hand). Sure looks more like a dashed line than a solid one to me.
If you drifted over that line in a drunken stupor, I'd say count your blessings and stop playing around with two tons of pain and suffering.
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08-14-2012, 11:10 AM | #5 |
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I know, right. I think the city that I'm living in is too broke to stripe their streets. I'm going to talk with some of my transportation engineer buddies and get the standard from the MUTCD for double yellow lines. Hopefully I can prove this is an obsolete design.
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08-14-2012, 03:35 PM | #8 |
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Tell them there was an alligator in the road that you were trying to avoid.
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08-14-2012, 09:29 PM | #9 |
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I'm also familiar with MUTCD, in which case I think the RPM's are pretty clear regardless of paint/markings. The sandblast jobs sucks which you *could* argue....however, I think your best bet is in the direction of what manner you were ticketed for double yellow. It certainly is not a double-double yellow (median island) so you *could* make a case you were ingress/egress into traffic, etc.....GL
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12-06-2012, 12:02 PM | #12 |
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Great news! The cop never submitted a response to my Trial by Written Declaration so I'm off the hook. I guess Christmas came early this year. Stoked that I saved myself some cash and the headache of traffic school just by challenging the ticket. Thanks for your responses everyone!
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12-06-2012, 09:03 PM | #15 |
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I honestly doubt this was a revenue raising endeavor, as paying the officer to write the report, appear in court, handle the paper, pay the judge, clerks, etc to process everything involved with this one ticket would probably be a money-losing endeavor. The most likely case was that the officer legitimately thought the OP broke the law, and the officer was mistaken.
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