FFTEC Turbo Kit #4

jb's335 · 08-19-2012, 07:46 AM

Will update as I get everything installed...

Finally a OPEN WASTEGATE car for everyone to enjoy the noises from lol...

And my direct port meth manifold ready for installation...

Hope you guys are ready for some real powaaaa! Come to Bimmerfest East this weekend if you want to see the kit in person...going on this car as soon as I get back from the 'fest...

badass335 · 08-19-2012, 09:20 AM

Very cool indeed!

tphaeng · 08-19-2012, 09:22 AM

Wow! That direct port meth manifold blows my mind

Willizm · 08-19-2012, 10:11 AM

Looks bad ass, but are you worried at all about atomization or logging the IAT's as the meth is so close to the ports and won't be picked up by the sensor?

Slops · 08-19-2012, 10:28 AM

Insane car but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the direct port meth injection.

1. Too many connections for possible leaks
2. Prob going to get pretty hot there possibly boiling meth and introducing weak spots in the tubing and air bubbles
3. Proper automation and mix into the inlet air should be as far from the tb as possible to cool air efficiently
4. How are you sure you get the exact amount in every cylinder?
5. How will your tune adjust for cooler iat?

cn555ic · 08-19-2012, 10:32 AM

How many pumps are you using for this direct port injection. Atomization will be compromised for sure as there are so many nozzles. Too large a nozzle you might experience quench, so tread carefully on choosing a nozzle size do to the reduce pressure of the pump from so many nozzles.

sA x sKy · 08-19-2012, 10:39 AM

Agreed with the above posters above meth being slightly compromised..but that is one badass looking manifold.

tofu- · 08-19-2012, 10:44 AM

wait... what? you're not using braided lines for that?

Joshboody · 08-19-2012, 12:13 PM

I think the direct port will be fine. Atomization is not as critical in this setup. Boiling meth is more of an issue pre-pump rathe rthan post. IATs for tuning would be a concern, but a small nozzle can be placed in the CP. Make sure you have the right nozzle sizes to keep psi up... 1500cc/min should be more than enough volume. Looking forward to the results.

cn555ic · 08-19-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshboody

I think the direct port will be fine. Atomization is not as critical in this setup. Boiling meth is more of an issue pre-pump rathe rthan post. IATs for tuning would be a concern, but a small nozzle can be placed in the CP. Make sure you have the right nozzle sizes to keep psi up... 1500cc/min should be more than enough volume. Looking forward to the results.

Most ideal setup for this direct port injection system is 3 pump which each pump will have two nozzles. Atomization this close in the manifold requires the meth to have the finest liquid atomization or you will incur quench.

statelax3 · 08-19-2012, 03:00 PM

OP you have PM.

tcw · 08-19-2012, 03:01 PM

More pics of the kit? So this is a DIY kit?

benzy89 · 08-19-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tcw

More pics of the kit? So this is a DIY kit?

This is the Vishnu/FFTEC Single-Turbo kit, that IIRC can ONLY be installed by FFTEC (aka, you have to ship your car to them)

Here's the manufacturer's (Vishnu Tuning) listing for the kit: http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/styled-15/index.html

Dmacc · 08-19-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzy89

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcw

More pics of the kit? So this is a DIY kit?

This is the Vishnu/FFTEC Single-Turbo kit, that IIRC can ONLY be installed by FFTEC (aka, you have to ship your car to them)

Here's the manufacturer's (Vishnu Tuning) listing for the kit: http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/styled-15/index.html

False. Creaminz' kit was installed by LTBMW.

rooringhusky · 08-19-2012, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzy89

This is the Vishnu/FFTEC Single-Turbo kit, that IIRC can ONLY be installed by FFTEC (aka, you have to ship your car to them)

Here's the manufacturer's (Vishnu Tuning) listing for the kit: http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/styled-15/index.html

In house testing FFTEC phase is already complete from what I know...The kit has been released to public and people can purchase this kit and have it mailed to their door now...DIY friendly!

benzy89 · 08-19-2012, 04:34 PM

I stand corrected on all accounts

Former_Boosted_IS · 08-19-2012, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Most ideal setup for this direct port injection system is 3 pump which each pump will have two nozzles. Atomization this close in the manifold requires the meth to have the finest liquid atomization or you will incur quench.

Quench has much more to do with the volume of water flow than anything else. I would be MUCH more concerned about boiling the meth or igniting any leak. I would not try what the OP is doing personally. We know my setup works beautifully at 650+ rwhp so why introduce such high risk or fire.

enrita · 08-19-2012, 04:57 PM

yeah that meth setup is quite scary... i would not run it...

zerep1 · 08-19-2012, 05:09 PM

How about using this for fuel e85 or just supplemental gas with actual injectors instead of nozzles according to shiv the v3 can control a second set of injectors

blisstik · 08-19-2012, 06:36 PM

I thought the kit had meth lines in the FMIC (2 on each of the end tanks)? So why the deviation?

cn555ic · 08-19-2012, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Quench has much more to do with the volume of water flow than anything else. I would be MUCH more concerned about boiling the meth or igniting any leak. I would not try what the OP is doing personally. We know my setup works beautifully at 650+ rwhp so why introduce such high risk or fire.

I agree on all counts and to deviate with something that needs to be checked on with so much frequency and concern, I would go with what already works. 650 is not bad!! Lol

Penn999 · 08-19-2012, 07:33 PM

How are you able to get around the dme programming? I'm Really intersted in this kit but was planning on waiting til spring bc I thought I HAD to ship it over to Vishnu for the programming?!? Can someone explain what the dme reprogramming they have listed on their kit is for(I was initially told the reprogramming was for added fueling)...?

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Slops Major General 188 Rep 5,417 Posts Drives: 2005 C55 AMG Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oxford iTrader: (2)	Insane car but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the direct port meth injection. 1. Too many connections for possible leaks 2. Prob going to get pretty hot there possibly boiling meth and introducing weak spots in the tubing and air bubbles 3. Proper automation and mix into the inlet air should be as far from the tb as possible to cool air efficiently 4. How are you sure you get the exact amount in every cylinder? 5. How will your tune adjust for cooler iat?
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cn555ic 442 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	How many pumps are you using for this direct port injection. Atomization will be compromised for sure as there are so many nozzles. Too large a nozzle you might experience quench, so tread carefully on choosing a nozzle size do to the reduce pressure of the pump from so many nozzles.
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sA x sKy Sameet 740 Rep 2,541 Posts Drives: AY/B M4 '15 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island, New York iTrader: (3) Garage List 2015 BMW M4 [0.00]	Agreed with the above posters above meth being slightly compromised..but that is one badass looking manifold.
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Joshboody Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,708 Posts Drives: pickemuptruck Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (7)	I think the direct port will be fine. Atomization is not as critical in this setup. Boiling meth is more of an issue pre-pump rathe rthan post. IATs for tuning would be a concern, but a small nozzle can be placed in the CP. Make sure you have the right nozzle sizes to keep psi up... 1500cc/min should be more than enough volume. Looking forward to the results.
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statelax3 Second Lieutenant 58 Rep 210 Posts Drives: 991.1 GTS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: charlotte nc iTrader: (0)	OP you have PM.
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	yeah that meth setup is quite scary... i would not run it... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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zerep1 Lieutenant 40 Rep 462 Posts Drives: 335i E90, 328i F30, 230i G42, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida iTrader: (1)	How about using this for fuel e85 or just supplemental gas with actual injectors instead of nozzles according to shiv the v3 can control a second set of injectors __________________ Irub
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blisstik Lieutenant Colonel 155 Rep 1,677 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California iTrader: (14)	I thought the kit had meth lines in the FMIC (2 on each of the end tanks)? So why the deviation?
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Penn999 Lieutenant Colonel 50 Rep 1,661 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: May 2010 Location: VA iTrader: (3)	How are you able to get around the dme programming? I'm Really intersted in this kit but was planning on waiting til spring bc I thought I HAD to ship it over to Vishnu for the programming?!? Can someone explain what the dme reprogramming they have listed on their kit is for(I was initially told the reprogramming was for added fueling)...? __________________ 07' MT, Quaife LSD, BMW Performance LED Steering Wheel, HPF FMIC, AA BOV, HPF Exhaust, DCI, Procede V5, AR Stage 1 oil cooler, AR OCC, AR CL DP's, Vishnu Meth Kit, UUC SSK+DSSR, UUC Shift knob, (19 inch)VMR V715's/Yokohama Advan AD08's, Hartge Pedals and Floor Mats. Awaiting Install: M3 Rear Subframe Bushings, Full M3 suspension bits, AST 4100's, DSS axles. Future plans: Vishnu Single turbo kit
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