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09-19-2012, 02:15 AM | #1 |
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Under-heating 330d
Hi all
Hope you can advise me, over the past while I have found the fuel economy of 330d dropping pretty substantially. So after doing some research I decided to check the coolant temperature and low and behold I found it was running low 70's and and briefly getting up to 77 at a maximum. So I felt the EGR stat was probably at fault, so I changed this for a new BMW part and did the air filter at the same time. However during the change I lost a fair amount of coolant for some reason, so I tried to bleed the system via the EGR stat screw, I have now checked the car and on 2 occasions the temperature hasn't improved i.e still sitting around 71-74. Any thoughts, could the main stat be at fault or have I not bleed the system enough? Cheers Steve |
09-19-2012, 06:44 AM | #2 |
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Most likely the main stat will be the issue and need changing. If the the egr stat has gone generally the main stat is not far behind. it is a bit of a pain to change but do'able
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09-19-2012, 07:31 AM | #4 |
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cheers guys, makes sense wasn't sure if I should expect an increase in to the 80's by the changing the egr alone.
I might book it in to get the main changed, on the plus side the car feels a load better with the air filter changed which isn't surprising I guess as it probably has been changed since new and now at 80k |
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09-19-2012, 07:34 AM | #5 |
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If you still have your old egr stat, blow thru it, if you can then its donald duck'd. Ask the garage to give you the old stat, just so you can test it yourself.
If both stats are gone, then changing one and not the other probably wont do anything. |
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09-19-2012, 08:01 AM | #6 |
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hi there
I checked the old one and yes I could blow through it, was just surprised that it made no apparent improvement, but as you say if the main stat is gone that is fairly unlikely. Cheers for the help, looking forward to getting the mpg back up again!! |
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09-19-2012, 01:20 PM | #8 |
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Main stat and FWIW the euro car parts main stats are not OEM so use with extreme caution. I had to do mine twice. I really should know better by now.
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09-20-2012, 01:52 AM | #9 |
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cheers guys
Used the dealers for the egr stat and will do so for the main stat, the prices aren't much different to eurocarparts anyway. Will get the main stat replaced and report bad. |
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10-18-2012, 02:16 PM | #11 |
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10-19-2012, 07:51 AM | #13 |
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1. add up the last 5 digits of the vin number
2. With the key out of the ignition press and hold trip reset button 3. insert key with the trip button still depressed 4. press trip reset button 18 times so you have 19th menu wait untill lockon appears and wait for code 00 to appear 5. press trip reset button so the answer to step 1 appears next to the number 19 6. you should go back to 1st menu. press trip reset button 6 times to 7th menu 7. start the car up and you should get "ktmp-mom" and the temp will be displayed Dont know about the real world mpg of a 330d |
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10-20-2012, 07:14 AM | #14 |
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If you fancy having a DIY bash, see Shane's excellent guide here
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632656 |
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10-20-2012, 06:04 PM | #15 |
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Real world mpg of mine roughly 15% sheer lunacy 15% town and 70% open roads with light foot is 39mpg. Thats over last 4 months since reset. Last time I reset before a 75mph motorway run I got around 42.5. I have modified it since and it is slightly better. They are ok but nothing fantastic. As so many threads have said before on diesel vs petrol I think its more of a case buy the engine you like.
On another note it is possible to fit an additional thermostat in the top hose. Im not saying you should but it is possible making it easy to change next time. |
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10-21-2012, 02:42 PM | #17 | |
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The Rover guys with the BMW M47R engine are doing what you suggest in the Rover 75 cars. They have had to play with thermostat type and the bleed hole size, or the coolant system temperature is fluctuating all over the place. OEM thermostat position is best placed for cooling in all circumstances. HighlandPete |
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10-21-2012, 04:14 PM | #18 |
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Sure it doesnt affect the egr bypass but water cant flow into the rad. Works well on mine. Cant remember the pilot hole size but whenever I check my temp its 86 to 90. I have not data logged it but it looks ok to me. I have changed both stats which didnt cure it so I added my own. I appreciate that it isnt the way to go but its worked well so far. I will one day get around to fitting yet another main stat.
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10-21-2012, 04:56 PM | #19 | |
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Are you driving an auto? Could be the gearbox oil cooler 'stat has failed, that would be helped by a top hose thermostat, as it stops the short circuit of coolant caused by a failed gearbox cooler 'stat. HighlandPete |
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10-22-2012, 10:11 AM | #20 |
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I checked temperature today.
55°C on start 60°C after 60 secs of driving 70°C after 3 mins or so 85°C after opening her up down the bypass 95°C once I got back to where I started and let it idle for 60 secs. I'm gutted, I wanted it to be broke so I could pick up my my 3-4 mpg from changing the stats |
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