[holmes011]

hey guys, so at some point im going to start doing performance mods and at stock if i drive kind of hard my oil temps are at just under 250. So i need an intake thats going to drop that way down, especially after i add a tune. im looking at these two ...


http://www.**********s.com/aFe-Stage...ckage-335i.htm

and

http://www.**********s.com/aFe-Elite...i-50-81472.htm


...and I am wondering if people could shed some light on the two since they seem pretty similar as far as gains but there is a big price difference. I know the elite is a CAI while the other one isnt and i was wondering if there is really a huge difference between the two? Also i'm not looking to get an oil cooler since i dont have one and adding an OEM with a new one is too expensive and i have 328 lower grills so the air does not pass through the lower grills anyways. Thanks

[longliven54]

tune and/or intake is not going to help you with oil temps. period.
an aux water rad might help a bit without actually going for an oil cooler. oil cooler should be your first mod if you are planning on driving hard n fast.
i dont have an oil cooler but i rarely drivr hard. maybe a drag or a 60-130mph( that too while pumping a shit load of meth) run once in a blue moon. i believe 2-3 hard pulls back to back wil for sho put me in limp mode.
do it once, do it rite..cheers

[E90Company]

You need an oil cooler, not an intake.

[marv85]

Intake does nothing for you in this case.

There is no running way from getting an oil cooler if your intent is to help keep oil temps in check.

[bigdnno98]

Originally Posted by marv85

Intake does nothing for you in this case.

There is no running way from getting an oil cooler if your intent is to help keep oil temps in check.

CPE Intercooler comes with oil cooler. Best bang for your buck if you're not putting the car on a road course

[marv85]

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

CPE Intercooler comes with oil cooler. Best bang for your buck if you're not putting the car on a road course

Good point. Does it come with OEM retrofit kit?

[Zebra99]

I wonder if you could find a 335i in the junkyard? That would be the easiest thing to do.

Or CPE as someone mentioned. But if you're worries about oil temps you need a cooler.

Btw, CAI and intercooler will help best with intake temps. Short ram is hot air and unless you're running meth not worth it.

[bigdnno98]

Depends does OP have a stock oil cooler? If not finding a totaled n54 with oil cooler is his best bet for retro fit as others are very expensive. The CPE is a great supplement to stock if not tracking the car.

[holmes011]

i never plan on taking the car to a track or anything which is why i dont want to spend all that money. can i get away with just running an intake and tune without an oil cooler?

also my main concern is what would be the best option as an intake?

[bigdnno98]

You have an 08 I assume you have a stock oil cooler? If your oil temps don't go over 250 in the summer driving in traffic you should be fine. 250 is very normal for this car. If you're concerned about oil temps get the CPE FMIC with oil cooler. Great mods. FMIC is a necessary mod for consistent performance. As far as intakes go the are tons of threads on here about which is best and even real testing results. I've tried many and the BMS DCI is my favorite for many reasons. It performs great, is cheap, is super easy to remove when I need to work on the car and doesn't get in the way of everything in my engine bay like some other intakes.

[holmes011]

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

You have an 08 I assume you have a stock oil cooler? If your oil temps don't go over 250 in the summer driving in traffic you should be fine. 250 is very normal for this car. If you're concerned about oil temps get the CPE FMIC with oil cooler. Great mods. FMIC is a necessary mod for consistent performance. As far as intakes go the are tons of threads on here about which is best and even real testing results. I've tried many and the BMS DCI is my favorite for many reasons. It performs great, is cheap, is super easy to remove when I need to work on the car and doesn't get in the way of everything in my engine bay like some other intakes.

i dont have an oil cooler, and i'd prefer to have a CAI

[bigdnno98]

I'd prob focus on an oil cooler then instead of an intake.

[holmes011]

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

I'd prob focus on an oil cooler then instead of an intake.

intake is necessary if i want to tune it

[bigdnno98]

If you're set on a cai I'd look into the mr5 custom intake. Impossible to hydro lock and actually performed better than cai in testing.

[holmes011]

Originally Posted by bigdnno98

If you're set on a cai I'd look into the mr5 custom intake. Impossible to hydro lock and actually performed better than cai in testing.

I would but I'm DIY challenged

[RoundelM3]

Get an Evolution Racewerks "sport" oil cooler - they also have an adapter kit for cars without the stock oil cooler. If you want to lower your oil temps, this is how you do it - not with a CAI. Your stock intake IS a cold-air intake, just maybe not as efficient as a dual-cone or other lower-restriction filter element, like a K&N or AFE.

[335xi_zer0]

Originally Posted by holmes011

intake is necessary if i want to tune it

Depends on the tune I believe. I know COBB says that an intake is recommended but not required until stage 2 and I don't think you're going to jump right into stage 2. Our stock intake actually isn't that bad, it performs rather well.

As others have said, you would need an oil cooler, but this car even when driving for a little while will show temps between 230-250. If you aren't planning on tracking it or multiple hard runs consistently, you'll be fine with how the car is now.

As for which intake, let's try not to start another one of those threads. I think there's at least one on every page of this forum.

[holmes011]

I'd be going with a JB4

[Lankster]

Let me put it this way. Im in San Diego, 2007 335xi, and ill be going with JB4 and DCI. No oil cooler, and dont intend to get one. With winter weather in connecticut, I dont expect you to have that big of troubles with temps. Unless going HAM

[abhishriv]

this a fake thread right? you want to lower your oil temps through through the use of an air intake?.. numerous people above have posted that a cold air intake wont help you decrease your oil temps, you would need an oil cooler. are you 100% positive you dont have a stock one? check your passenger side front wheel well for vents.

in any case. if you're not going to track and just want to tune your car for a bit more power you can get away without the oil cooler. In fact the stock airbox isnt bad for what i think your purpose is, if anything just get a high flow drop in filter from K&N or BMS...thats what i did.

[BQTuning]

an intake has nothing to so with lowering oil temps.

these are the common ways of lowering oils temps:

upgrade the single OC to larger OC

add a second OC

increase water pump speeds via flash tune if available by the tuner

the aFe stage 2 SI and Stage 2 Elite SI helps with intake breathing. less restrictive over stock, allows more "dense" air to reach the turbos pre FMIC, significant increase in gains

[holmes011]

Originally Posted by abhishriv

this a fake thread right? you want to lower your oil temps through through the use of an air intake?.. numerous people above have posted that a cold air intake wont help you decrease your oil temps, you would need an oil cooler. are you 100% positive you dont have a stock one? check your passenger side front wheel well for vents.

in any case. if you're not going to track and just want to tune your car for a bit more power you can get away without the oil cooler. In fact the stock airbox isnt bad for what i think your purpose is, if anything just get a high flow drop in filter from K&N or BMS...thats what i did.

sorry i was a little confused but i know for a fact i dont have an oil cooler