Stage 2+ blown chargepipe first pull. How?

zeenon53 · 10-23-2012, 12:41 PM

Yesterday I went out to log for the first time since installing my Mr. 5 intake, VRSF 7" fmic & downpipes. As I roll into boost on my very first pull around 4K rpms I heard a popping sound and the car lost power. It took a minute before a code came up but eventually I saw a P30FF boost leak. The charge pipe blew off right at the clamp and broke. I haven't seen a stock charge pipe yet but is there supposed to be a metal ring or something that locks it in place to the throttle body? I can't seem to find any pieces to it and don't think they could have made their way into the intake. They are probably in the undertray somewhere.

In the second pic you can see the Mr 5 intake I bought. I'm surprised the flange blew off the intake box as it's not pressurized and it didn't happen between shifts. I'm just going to silicone it back on and bolt it.

enrita · 10-23-2012, 12:42 PM

Well hehe increased boost and bad mechanic skills
Actually thats the stock cp? U are not the first one to destroy it. Just buy a good one

Redrkt503 · 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM

thats some bad luck right there.....my first pull when i did my charge pipe blew it off and disconnected the sensor back there and it took my about 3 hours to figure out the problem lol

marv85 · 10-23-2012, 12:50 PM

Time to upgrade to an aftermarket CP

nafoo · 10-23-2012, 12:51 PM

I've seen so many stock cps break like that. Stage 2+ should just require an upgraded cp to begin with

zeenon53 · 10-23-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Well hehe increased boost and bad mechanic skills
Actually thats the stock cp? U are not the first one to destroy it. Just buy a good one

I understand how the CP blew, but the intake I don't get.

Bad mechanic skills? I guess you are talking about whomever made the intake?

I'm thinking about picking up a CP where I can run the stock DV's until i need to upgrade to Forge or AWE.

enrita · 10-23-2012, 01:06 PM

see my edit... you destroyed stock cp... just buy a good one and blaim bmw for not supporting 18 psi....

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-23-2012, 03:01 PM

I dont get why the intake did that either, maybe it was simply coincidental. However, I recommend the Evolution Racewerks Charge pipe. We got a handful in stock ready to ship to get back on the road. Hit me up.

The stock CP has a metal C clip. It likely fell into the black hole of that engine bay. I doubt it got sucked up that would be quite the feat.

SfValley335i · 10-23-2012, 03:09 PM

Wow im going to take it easy now ... 3 more days until my cp arrives.

E90Company · 10-23-2012, 03:36 PM

What year is your car out of curiosity? Reason I ask is because I feel like when these threads come up, it almost always happens to the cars 09+ with the redesigned CP

type rrr · 10-23-2012, 03:51 PM

im running stock cp @ 19 psi with no problem

nitehawk · 10-23-2012, 03:51 PM

Stock cp and dv here, pushing 19+psi and no issues

Laguna Seca Blue · 10-23-2012, 03:53 PM

Damn. Seems like a very common problem. I wonder if I broke my charge pipe too. Will have to check in the morning.

enrita · 10-23-2012, 03:56 PM

yeah if that would be a big problem...

SflBimmer8484 · 10-23-2012, 03:57 PM

As far as the charge pipe is concerned its bound to happen sooner or later... Time for a Active Charge pipe and Bov

The filter box.. I have no clue how you managed that one

MDORPHN · 10-23-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

The filter box.. I have no clue how you managed that one

Same here.. and you'd better hope that nothing from it got sucked down into the turbos.

Neil

Sniz · 10-23-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Same here.. and you'd better hope that nothing from it got sucked down into the turbos.

Neil

Neil,
I saw your car over at Adam's, lookin real good! Bet its a blast to drive too.

zeenon53 · 10-23-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by E90Company

What year is your car out of curiosity? Reason I ask is because I feel like when these threads come up, it almost always happens to the cars 09+ with the redesigned CP

Actually, I have a 09 e90.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

As far as the charge pipe is concerned its bound to happen sooner or later... Time for a Active Charge pipe and Bov

The filter box.. I have no clue how you managed that one

I don't want a loud noticeable car. I am thinking more along the lines of upgraded DV's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Same here.. and you'd better hope that nothing from it got sucked down into the turbos.

Neil

From looking at the intake, the flange just popped off. It had some sort of a plastic glue holding it on. I have to bolt it on with some silicone. I am worried about the O-ring I hear of. I can't find that either and imagine it's possible that it could get sucked in. It's probably just paranoia.

E90Company · 10-23-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by type rrr

im running stock cp @ 19 psi with no problem

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Originally Posted by nitehawk

Stock cp and dv here, pushing 19+psi and no issues

Both pre 09's

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Originally Posted by zeenon53

Actually, I have a 09 e90

09

Hmm

ajsalida · 10-23-2012, 04:40 PM

I don't understand how the intake blew up like that, did it happen at the same time as the CP? Are you running meth or something? I would think some kind of backfire thru the intake tract but that makes no sense given the piping arrangement and location of IC/turbos.

vladi627 · 10-23-2012, 04:55 PM

Most likely just a poorly made intake.

cn555ic · 10-23-2012, 04:59 PM

Damn thats take alot of back pressure to blow both the chargepipe and the hose out of the intake unless the intake was put together with glue and cheaply done..

10-23-2012, 12:41 PM	#1
zeenon53 Major 39 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: obx iTrader: (3)	Stage 2+ blown chargepipe first pull. How? Yesterday I went out to log for the first time since installing my Mr. 5 intake, VRSF 7" fmic & downpipes. As I roll into boost on my very first pull around 4K rpms I heard a popping sound and the car lost power. It took a minute before a code came up but eventually I saw a P30FF boost leak. The charge pipe blew off right at the clamp and broke. I haven't seen a stock charge pipe yet but is there supposed to be a metal ring or something that locks it in place to the throttle body? I can't seem to find any pieces to it and don't think they could have made their way into the intake. They are probably in the undertray somewhere. In the second pic you can see the Mr 5 intake I bought. I'm surprised the flange blew off the intake box as it's not pressurized and it didn't happen between shifts. I'm just going to silicone it back on and bolt it. Attached Images __________________ 2016 340i xdrive 2009 335i
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10-23-2012, 12:42 PM	#2
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Well hehe increased boost and bad mechanic skills Actually thats the stock cp? U are not the first one to destroy it. Just buy a good one __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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Redrkt503 Lieutenant 31 Rep 439 Posts Drives: E92 335is Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL iTrader: (0)	thats some bad luck right there.....my first pull when i did my charge pipe blew it off and disconnected the sensor back there and it took my about 3 hours to figure out the problem lol __________________ 2011 335is "Redrkt" 6 MT DocRace 6266 Single Turbo - Fuel it stage 3 LPFP - Fuel it PI - spec stage 3+ clutch - mfactory SM flywheel - 100% E85 - VRSF 7.5" intercooler - VRSF charge pipe w/ HKS BOV - JB4 - MHD back end flash 768 whp 695 ft lbs - E85 - 32PSI
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marv85 Colonel 71 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i MT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (7)	Time to upgrade to an aftermarket CP __________________ '18 F80 M3 Comp 6MT - Stock '07 E92 335i 6MT- HP650, inlets/outlets, ER FMIC, VRSF CP, LPFP stg2, CSF rad, 'is Aux rad, ER OC, Ohlins, M control arms, eibach front sway bar. '05 C55 AMG SOLD - '22 Tesla M3P \| '10 E92 335i M, 6MT \| '07 E90 335i, PTF COBB E50, FBO, HFS4
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10-23-2012, 12:51 PM	#5
nafoo Major 46 Rep 1,145 Posts Drives: Boosted Bimmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	I've seen so many stock cps break like that. Stage 2+ should just require an upgraded cp to begin with
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10-23-2012, 01:06 PM	#7
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	see my edit... you destroyed stock cp... just buy a good one and blaim bmw for not supporting 18 psi.... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3442 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	I dont get why the intake did that either, maybe it was simply coincidental. However, I recommend the Evolution Racewerks Charge pipe. We got a handful in stock ready to ship to get back on the road. Hit me up. The stock CP has a metal C clip. It likely fell into the black hole of that engine bay. I doubt it got sucked up that would be quite the feat.
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10-23-2012, 03:09 PM	#9
SfValley335i Colonel 165 Rep 2,409 Posts Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: City of Angels iTrader: (8)	Wow im going to take it easy now ... 3 more days until my cp arrives.
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E90Company Major General 196 Rep 6,136 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	What year is your car out of curiosity? Reason I ask is because I feel like when these threads come up, it almost always happens to the cars 09+ with the redesigned CP
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10-23-2012, 03:51 PM	#11
type rrr Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: montreal canada iTrader: (0)	im running stock cp @ 19 psi with no problem __________________ 2007 335i coupe AT-- I80AS--FBO -stock turbos--COBB v402 beta stage 2 + ATR-- NITTO'S 275-40-17 NT05R --- 12.025 @ 120 mph -- full weight
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nitehawk Lieutenant Colonel 102 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6MT Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (15) Garage List E92 BMW 335i [9.00] E92 BMW 335i \| Retired [10.00]	Stock cp and dv here, pushing 19+psi and no issues
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Laguna Seca Blue Major 261 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: N54 E92 \| N55 F15 \| N55 E70 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (1)	Damn. Seems like a very common problem. I wonder if I broke my charge pipe too. Will have to check in the morning. __________________ E92 335i 6MT \| Balloon White \| Black Dakota Leather - Sold PROcede Rev3 V5 \| AE Quad Exhaust \| BMW Performance Short Shift Kit \| Gunmetal 19" M3 GTS Wheels \| BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2 \| AST 4100 Coilovers \| Swift Springs F:280 R:560 \| ER Charge Pipe \| Tial Blue BOV \| VRSF 3" Downpipes \| VRSF 7" Intercooler http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782212
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	yeah if that would be a big problem... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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SflBimmer8484 Brigadier General 1470 Rep 3,157 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida iTrader: (5)	As far as the charge pipe is concerned its bound to happen sooner or later... Time for a Active Charge pipe and Bov The filter box.. I have no clue how you managed that one
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10-23-2012, 04:40 PM	#20
ajsalida Colonel 226 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: 95 M3, 02 R1150GSA, 09 335xi Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA iTrader: (2)	I don't understand how the intake blew up like that, did it happen at the same time as the CP? Are you running meth or something? I would think some kind of backfire thru the intake tract but that makes no sense given the piping arrangement and location of IC/turbos.
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vladi627 Private First Class 6 Rep 177 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TX iTrader: (3)	Most likely just a poorly made intake.
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10-23-2012, 04:59 PM	#22
cn555ic 442 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Damn thats take alot of back pressure to blow both the chargepipe and the hose out of the intake unless the intake was put together with glue and cheaply done..
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