[diddlkiss]

Hey guys

I got my cobb ap in yesterday,its no boost,I try back to factory,uninstall COBB,its still no boost.an I also dont want delete the procede,because I have vishnu PMW kit,its work very good,but the fuel trim were maxed,
but when I instead Cobb,I get 4 codes,its P240A P2FA3 P2FA4 P2A18 and my car no boost,its relay slow,I also look a SES light in my cluster.

any advise? thanks

[n54gte]

Why didn't you just get the procede flash? I'm not sure but I don't think you can use cobb with procede?

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by jordan313

Why didn't you just get the procede flash? I'm not sure but I don't think you can use cobb with procede?

because I am in China,I cant sent my DME to Amercan.its so long time.

[pinky_and_me]

Originally Posted by diddlkiss

Hey guys

I got my cobb ap in yesterday,but I dont want delete the procede,because I have vishnu PMW kit,its work very good,but the fuel trim were maxed,any advise? thanks

Use ATR to create a map that only alters the fuel trims or get a tuner to create it for you.

I've read people mention that there are maps out there that JB4 users use to do that so you might be able to find those and re-use them as well.

[diddlkiss]

whats ï¼»ATRï¼½?

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by pinky_and_me

Use ATR to create a map that only alters the fuel trims or get a tuner to create it for you.

I've read people mention that there are maps out there that JB4 users use to do that so you might be able to find those and re-use them as well.

what is ATR?
I want cobb to clear fuel trim maxed,all of people told me.I try to install cobb on my car,but my car lost
all boost,its no boost now

[pinky_and_me]

Originally Posted by diddlkiss

what is ATR?
I want cobb to clear fuel trim maxed,all of people told me.I try to install cobb on my car,but my car lost
all boost,its no boost now

ATR stands for AccessTUNER Race and allows you to customize/create new maps for the Cobb AP.
If you read up on how Cobb AP works you will see that it uses maps just like the Procede to determine how to control/change the behavior of the car.
Since both Cobb and Procede do similar things I suspect having them both active will cause problems.
Try setting the Procede to map 0 and you'll probably get more boost because of the Cobb AP map that is active when you installed it. If you want to use the Procede you'll need to get a Cobb map that only changes variables related to the fuel trims and not things that the Procede controls.
So, in other words - both Procede and Cobb have maps and you have to make them work together or you'll have problems. Out of the box you can't use both at the same time, you have to use ATR to change Cobb maps or change Procede maps or both.

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by pinky_and_me

ATR stands for AccessTUNER Race and allows you to customize/create new maps for the Cobb AP.
If you read up on how Cobb AP works you will see that it uses maps just like the Procede to determine how to control/change the behavior of the car.
Since both Cobb and Procede do similar things I suspect having them both active will cause problems.
Try setting the Procede to map 0 and you'll probably get more boost because of the Cobb AP map that is active when you installed it. If you want to use the Procede you'll need to get a Cobb map that only changes variables related to the fuel trims and not things that the Procede controls.
So, in other words - both Procede and Cobb have maps and you have to make them work together or you'll have problems. Out of the box you can't use both at the same time, you have to use ATR to change Cobb maps or change Procede maps or both.

hou can I get ATR?thanks so much.
I relay on map0 to instead cobb,but I get 4codes its P240A P2FA3 P2FA4 P2A18
Because my fuel trim a maxed, I ask the forum's users, they told I should get a COBB AP, so I bought it from the United States arrived in China spent one week's time, had to admit, procede in my carworking on a very good, especially methanol system with, so I will not delete it.

[Ilma]

Not sure why you are getting those codes.....but if you are stacking Cobb with Procede then you have to adjust some of the Procede tables to make this work.

For example, you would have to set the values in the Procede "AFR target offset" table to stock settings of 50 all across each and every cell.

Otherwise the two tunes will be fighting each other in regards to fueling.

You cannot just install the two over each other and expect it to work with no adjustments......that's just being silly.

[jippii ensio]

Alter the fuel trims only with Cobb. I.e. do not run any full range map on Cobb.

[bigdaddycane]

For the JB4 to work with the COBB it has to be on Map 0 which is the pass through map (no tune). I'm not sure what the pass through map is on the Procede as I have n ever owned one. You are def going to have to tweak the Procede to make this combo work (if its even possible).

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by Ilma

Not sure why you are getting those codes.....but if you are stacking Cobb with Procede then you have to adjust some of the Procede tables to make this work.

For example, you would have to set the values in the Procede "AFR target offset" table to stock settings of 50 all across each and every cell.

Otherwise the two tunes will be fighting each other in regards to fueling.

You cannot just install the two over each other and expect it to work with no adjustments......that's just being silly.

I has instead cobb and delete it 3times,but still got this codes and no boost,I uninstall cobb,in procede map0 its stock,still no boost now.

[pinky_and_me]

Originally Posted by diddlkiss

I has instead cobb and delete it 3times,but still got this codes and no boost,I uninstall cobb,in procede map0 its stock,still no boost now.

Uninstall Cobb, re-load the Procede map and do the reset procedure in the readme.txt (for the Procede maps). Then set it to map 1 and see if you get your boost back.

[Joshboody]

Hey OP… I can help you use them together. You need to follow my directions closely though. BUT first understand how to use your Cobb AP

1. Make sure Cobb is working without Procede by loading a OTS map and putting Procede into map0… do a log
2. Inform me of your ROM which is displayed on the AP. Would be one of these:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/AccessPORT...w/BMW-OTS-Maps
3. Attach the Procede map of your preference into this thread. The map you used in the past that had good results (besides the trim issue). If this map is loaded currently, connect USB while car is on and save the Procede map displayed.
4. Once 1-3 is complete I will make you a Cobb and Procede map that will work together.
NOTE: I think we can attach everything into a forum post, but may have to rename it.

Also give me a list of your mods, AT or MT, fuel mix, and some explanation of summer/winter weather extremes.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

Hey OP… I can help you use them together. You need to follow my directions closely though. BUT first understand how to use your Cobb AP

1. Make sure Cobb is working without Procede by loading a OTS map and putting Procede into map0… do a log
2. Inform me of your ROM which is displayed on the AP. Would be one of these:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/AccessPORT...w/BMW-OTS-Maps
3. Attach the Procede map of your preference into this thread. The map you used in the past that had good results (besides the trim issue). If this map is loaded currently, connect USB while car is on and save the Procede map displayed.
4. Once 1-3 is complete I will make you a Cobb and Procede map that will work together.
NOTE: I think we can attach everything into a forum post, but may have to rename it.

Also give me a list of your mods, AT or MT, fuel mix, and some explanation of summer/winter weather extremes.

Nice offer!!!! I really wish Shiv would support this approach and provide instructions and Cobb maps for his customers.

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by pinky_and_me

Uninstall Cobb, re-load the Procede map and do the reset procedure in the readme.txt (for the Procede maps). Then set it to map 1 and see if you get your boost back.

there is no way...I cant look any boost,if have,only 4~5psi.

[diddlkiss]

okay,thanks so much!!
My car is 2010 335i sedan,6AT,37k miles.
Rom IJE0S MSD81 N54
Mod

Procede v5 rev3 with
9-10map stage2 attched (I get the best 100kph-200 @8.7s by dbox )
Vishnu PMW kit Meth 85%~100%
AFE DCI
Forge FMIC and BV
AR 3''downppe catless
Akrapovic Titan EXCUST
Quaife ATB LSD
Bilstein B16 PSS10

I use Ron97 gas,it like 92oct maybe,
there in summer temp higgst 105F
Minimum temperature in winter 10F.
but I have a problem now,my car is no boost of installed Cobb,and delete it,
still 0 boost.
thanks again!

Originally Posted by Joshboody

Hey OP… I can help you use them together. You need to follow my directions closely though. BUT first understand how to use your Cobb AP

1. Make sure Cobb is working without Procede by loading a OTS map and putting Procede into map0… do a log
2. Inform me of your ROM which is displayed on the AP. Would be one of these:
http://www.cobbtuning.com/AccessPORT...w/BMW-OTS-Maps
3. Attach the Procede map of your preference into this thread. The map you used in the past that had good results (besides the trim issue). If this map is loaded currently, connect USB while car is on and save the Procede map displayed.
4. Once 1-3 is complete I will make you a Cobb and Procede map that will work together.
NOTE: I think we can attach everything into a forum post, but may have to rename it.

Also give me a list of your mods, AT or MT, fuel mix, and some explanation of summer/winter weather extremes.

[diddlkiss]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Nice offer!!!! I really wish Shiv would support this approach and provide instructions and Cobb maps for his customers.

yep
I relay like procede and Vishnu PMW kit,but in winter,my fuel trim were maxed,I want a vishnu flashed,but I m in China,so I cant send my DME to America,its so long time for track.

[bigdaddycane]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Nice offer!!!! I really wish Shiv would support this approach and provide instructions and Cobb maps for his customers.

[Joshboody]

Originally Posted by diddlkiss

okay,thanks so much!!
My car is 2010 335i sedan,6AT,37k miles.
Rom IJE0S MSD81 N54
Mod

Procede v5 rev3 with
9-10map stage2 attched (I get the best 100kph-200 @8.7s by dbox )
Vishnu PMW kit Meth 85%~100%
AFE DCI
Forge FMIC and BV
AR 3''downppe catless
Akrapovic Titan EXCUST
Quaife ATB LSD
Bilstein B16 PSS10

I use Ron97 gas,it like 92oct maybe,
there in summer temp higgst 105F
Minimum temperature in winter 10F.
but I have a problem now,my car is no boost of installed Cobb,and delete it,
still 0 boost.
thanks again!

First you have to get your Cobb sorted and be able to use the OTS maps... sorry, I can't walk you through this. But make sure you are on Map0 for Procede. Read all you can about using your Cobb and report back when you have success. Then we can proceed/de

[Joshboody]

don't you have RBs also?

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

Hey OP… I can help you use them together. You need to follow my directions closely though. BUT first understand how to use your Cobb AP

Hey Josh:

Can you modify my Procede map as well? Would love to look over those table values you use.

Stage 3 6AT map with meth....stock turbos FBO running around 17 psi on 94 octane pump gas with 75/25 meth mix.
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Just rename the extension back to .pcd