OFT Fuel issue...logs inside. Please help

BADS335 · 10-18-2013, 09:35 AM

OK. I am FBO with Vishnu OTS Fuel Flash and latest Procede with stage 3 maps. So I am having issues with fueling. I go super lean down low to super rich up high. Very much a straight line from about 15:1-10:1 from 2500-6500 every time WOT. Power feels weak and throttle response is slow. I think something is wrong with my final BIN file after I modify it. I have tried to do it 4 or 5 times with the same results. So either my stock file is modified already or I am doing something wrong. I have I8AOS. Can someone send me their stock BIN and fuel flash modified BIN? So then I can compare and see if/where there are differences or confirm or deny differences and causal. I did send several notes to Shiv with no response. So I am on here asking for some help with others who are using same set-up. Also should note I have tried different stages of maps including the 50/50 e85 maps.

My e-mail is badsz28@att.net for those who can send BINs to me. Or I can send mine to someone if they want to compare. Either way I appreciate the help.

Thanks

P.S. I also put stock BIN back into car and ran the standard stage 3 Proced maps and the car runs great till I run out of fuel...hence why I really want to get the fuel flash working.

Added log screenshot. This is Procede Stage 3 maps with OFT OTS Fuel Flash. Notice how fuel trims are negative even though it is super lean? Then as you follow the RPMs up it goes richer and richer and fuel trims stay the same.

EDIT: Adding datazap file.

http://www.datazap.me/u/bads335/proc...ots-fuel-flash

TT-Tom · 10-18-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BADS335

OK. I am FBO with Vishnu OTS Fuel Flash and latest Procede with stage 3 maps. So I am having issues with fueling. I go super lean down low to super rich up high. Very much a straight line from about 15:1-10:1 from 2500-6500 every time WOT. Power feels weak and throttle response is slow. I think something is wrong with my final BIN file after I modify it. I have tried to do it 4 or 5 times with the same results. So either my stock file is modified already or I am doing something wrong. I have I8AOS. Can someone send me their stock BIN and fuel flash modified BIN? So then I can compare and see if/where there are differences or confirm or deny differences and causal. I did send several notes to Shiv with no response. So I am on here asking for some help with others who are using same set-up. Also should note I have tried different stages of maps including the 50/50 e85 maps.

My e-mail is badsz28@att.net for those who can send BINs to me. Or I can send mine to someone if they want to compare. Either way I appreciate the help.

Thanks

P.S. I also put stock BIN back into car and ran the standard stage 3 Proced maps and the car runs great till I run out of fuel...hence why I really want to get the fuel flash working.

Can you post a log, logs do wonders for finding issues. Thanks!

BADS335 · 10-18-2013, 10:00 AM

Yeah I can post the files or a screenshot.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-18-2013, 12:26 PM

Try using http://www.datazap.me/

You will get a lot more responses to your logs if you use that medium.

007_e350 · 10-18-2013, 12:45 PM

whats ur email ?

BADS335 · 10-18-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

whats ur email ?

badsz28@att.net

007_e350 · 10-18-2013, 12:52 PM

sent u my stg1 bin file

Tzu · 10-18-2013, 12:59 PM

Are you resetting adaptations after installing/flashing new maps with the procede/OFT? Do you know if the OFT resets adaptations automatically on install?

BADS335 · 10-18-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tzu

Are you resetting adaptations after installing/flashing new maps with the procede/OFT? Do you know if the OFT resets adaptations automatically on install?

For the ProCede yes, but not in the OFT. I assume I just load the flash and go. I do not do any other functions on the OFT once the flash is loaded.

BADS335 · 10-18-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

sent u my stg1 bin file

Is that for I8AOS?

BADS335 · 10-21-2013, 09:03 AM

Before I post up a bunch of logs, I was hoping I could compare some BINs to make sure I am doing everything correctly. Can someone with I8AOS send me thier bins?

Thanks

enrita · 10-21-2013, 11:49 AM

U sure u are running the right procede maps that work with the flash?

BADS335 · 10-21-2013, 02:00 PM

Yes. I followed the instructions as stated. Changing the AFR table to 50.

Another thing I noticed when running the fuel flash is, with the Procede off, I see as much as 12psi. I would not think it would be more than stock (8.5psi). This is another thing that leads me to believe something is not right.

AWTT335i · 10-21-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BADS335

Yes. I followed the instructions as stated. Changing the AFR table to 50.

Another thing I noticed when running the fuel flash is, with the Procede off, I see as much as 12psi. I would not think it would be more than stock (8.5psi). This is another thing that leads me to believe something is not right.

The fuel flash runs around 12psi, so that's correct.

BADS335 · 10-22-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AWTT335i

The fuel flash runs around 12psi, so that's correct.

Well that's good to know. So what the hell is up with my fuel? I will try to get some logs up. I cannot do the datazap at work. So I will try to get some screen shots up for now.

BADS335 · 10-22-2013, 09:47 AM

Added a screen shot of what I am refering to in the first post. This is the same issue regardless of the procede map I run which leads me to believe there is an issue with the base tune.

BADS335 · 10-22-2013, 10:43 AM

I still would like to compare BINs. Can someone send me a stock and modified I8AOS BINs? I just want to check that what I am working with from a base is right before I work my way into other diagnostics.

Because if fuel trims are near zero, that means it is hitting the AFR target which is obviously wrong.

AWTT335i · 10-22-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BADS335

I still would like to compare BINs. Can someone send me a stock and modified I8AOS BINs? I just want to check that what I am working with from a base is right before I work my way into other diagnostics.

Because if fuel trims are near zero, that means it is hitting the AFR target which is obviously wrong.

Fuel trims will also be zero while DME is in open loop fueling.

Tzu · 10-23-2013, 07:47 AM

If you could put the log in datazap then you'd get more help.

feedmyfast · 10-23-2013, 08:30 AM

i ran my car on the dyno last night and i am having the same problem(I8AOS as well). im at 1 for OL fuel in the procede adjustments and im still getting negative fuel trims (-3-5). im going to send shiv all my info tonight and hope he can help me out.

Did you try adjusting the OL fuel in the procede settings as the "read me" file said to do for the fuel flash, so it wont be as negative at it currently is?

BADS335 · 10-23-2013, 09:02 AM

Added datazap to first post. And below.

http://www.datazap.me/u/bads335/proc...ots-fuel-flash

At least I think. I cannot view at work.

BADS335 · 10-24-2013, 07:48 AM

I need some help.

10-18-2013, 09:35 AM	#1
BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	OFT Fuel issue...logs inside. Please help OK. I am FBO with Vishnu OTS Fuel Flash and latest Procede with stage 3 maps. So I am having issues with fueling. I go super lean down low to super rich up high. Very much a straight line from about 15:1-10:1 from 2500-6500 every time WOT. Power feels weak and throttle response is slow. I think something is wrong with my final BIN file after I modify it. I have tried to do it 4 or 5 times with the same results. So either my stock file is modified already or I am doing something wrong. I have I8AOS. Can someone send me their stock BIN and fuel flash modified BIN? So then I can compare and see if/where there are differences or confirm or deny differences and causal. I did send several notes to Shiv with no response. So I am on here asking for some help with others who are using same set-up. Also should note I have tried different stages of maps including the 50/50 e85 maps. My e-mail is badsz28@att.net for those who can send BINs to me. Or I can send mine to someone if they want to compare. Either way I appreciate the help. Thanks P.S. I also put stock BIN back into car and ran the standard stage 3 Proced maps and the car runs great till I run out of fuel...hence why I really want to get the fuel flash working. Added log screenshot. This is Procede Stage 3 maps with OFT OTS Fuel Flash. Notice how fuel trims are negative even though it is super lean? Then as you follow the RPMs up it goes richer and richer and fuel trims stay the same. EDIT: Adding datazap file. http://www.datazap.me/u/bads335/proc...ots-fuel-flash Attached Images __________________ 2008-BMW-335i-E90-6MT-Sport-Montego Blue Last edited by BADS335; 10-24-2013 at 08:57 AM..
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Tzu Lieutenant Colonel 29 Rep 1,551 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Are you resetting adaptations after installing/flashing new maps with the procede/OFT? Do you know if the OFT resets adaptations automatically on install?
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Before I post up a bunch of logs, I was hoping I could compare some BINs to make sure I am doing everything correctly. Can someone with I8AOS send me thier bins? Thanks __________________ 2008-BMW-335i-E90-6MT-Sport-Montego Blue
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	U sure u are running the right procede maps that work with the flash?
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Yes. I followed the instructions as stated. Changing the AFR table to 50. Another thing I noticed when running the fuel flash is, with the Procede off, I see as much as 12psi. I would not think it would be more than stock (8.5psi). This is another thing that leads me to believe something is not right.
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Added a screen shot of what I am refering to in the first post. This is the same issue regardless of the procede map I run which leads me to believe there is an issue with the base tune.
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	I still would like to compare BINs. Can someone send me a stock and modified I8AOS BINs? I just want to check that what I am working with from a base is right before I work my way into other diagnostics. Because if fuel trims are near zero, that means it is hitting the AFR target which is obviously wrong.
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Tzu Lieutenant Colonel 29 Rep 1,551 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	If you could put the log in datazap then you'd get more help.
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feedmyfast Private First Class 14 Rep 178 Posts Drives: E93 335 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pembroke Pines,FL iTrader: (0)	i ran my car on the dyno last night and i am having the same problem(I8AOS as well). im at 1 for OL fuel in the procede adjustments and im still getting negative fuel trims (-3-5). im going to send shiv all my info tonight and hope he can help me out. Did you try adjusting the OL fuel in the procede settings as the "read me" file said to do for the fuel flash, so it wont be as negative at it currently is?
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Added datazap to first post. And below. http://www.datazap.me/u/bads335/proc...ots-fuel-flash At least I think. I cannot view at work.
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BADS335 Lieutenant 29 Rep 408 Posts Drives: Montego 335i E90 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	I need some help.
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