[ThatRWD]

I'm planning on drifting my car a little on the track. It's also going to be my back and forth from work a few days. Which is why im getting an auto. Just ewondering what the differences would be bbetween an auto and a manual both running a LSD.

Does one drift better than the other? How so? The auto does have paddle shifters. I'm ggoing to be keeping the car for the rest of its life ~15 years.

And can all 2007 auto 335i's run the quaife LSD.

I'm a noob but slowly and safely I'll be mmastering drifting.

[SeanS54]

if you plan on drifting get a manual... there's a reason why all pro drifters run manuals... you have the option to clutch kick

[gzim335]

AUTO sucks it will upshift every time you redline which you would be doing a lot while drifting

[Riick]

Did someone just say they want to drift an automatic? Thanks for the laugh!

[techwhiz]

Originally Posted by gzim335

AUTO sucks it will upshift every time you redline which you would be doing a lot while drifting

From what I understand the tranny flash will prevent this from happening if DSC is off. It will bounce off the limiter just like a manual car. If that is the case it will behave very similar to a MT car *AND* no money shift.

If you car drift a DCT car, why wouldn't you be able to drift an auto with a transmission flash?

[X5-User]

Originally Posted by techwhiz

From what I understand the tranny flash will prevent this from happening if DSC is off. It will bounce off the limiter just like a manual car. If that is the case it will behave very similar to a MT car *AND* no money shift.

If you car drift a DCT car, why wouldn't you be able to drift an auto with a transmission flash?

Can you drift a DCT car? really?

[gzim335]

Originally Posted by techwhiz

From what I understand the tranny flash will prevent this from happening if DSC is off. It will bounce off the limiter just like a manual car. If that is the case it will behave very similar to a MT car *AND* no money shift.

If you car drift a DCT car, why wouldn't you be able to drift an auto with a transmission flash?

sorry man you dont know what your talking about.

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by techwhiz

From what I understand the tranny flash will prevent this from happening if DSC is off. It will bounce off the limiter just like a manual car. If that is the case it will behave very similar to a MT car *AND* no money shift.

If you car drift a DCT car, why wouldn't you be able to drift an auto with a transmission flash?

Hey, if someone wants to donate some tires and brakes I'll try my Alpina B3 trans flash

[ThatRWD]

What can I do in an automatic, I just want to drift around turns and come out of the drift smoothly without jerking the car and losing speed.

[Eric E92 335i]

what do you meaning jerking the car and losing speed? have you ever drifted? if you can't drift a manual car, how are you going to drift an automatic which is harder?

[gzim335]

It's easy to power slide but maintaing the drift is almost impossible with an automatic.

[rismo]

You will burn your AT and also your DCT in a split second...
But give it a try, but please record in with a camera...

[gzim335]

Sell the car and get a z

[Ingeniator]

Originally Posted by gzim335

Sell the car and get a z

I'm selling my Z lol.

[ThatRWD]

Na lol I might've went for 35 if the front lights and interior were better.

What can I manage with an automatic w/o the LSD and what about with the LSD.

[1chanc3]

Originally Posted by ThatRWD

Na lol I might've went for 35 if the front lights and interior were better.

What can I manage with an automatic w/o the LSD and what about with the LSD.

The only thing you can do with an automatic is just driving....

If you want to drift properly, learn manual.

[techwhiz]

Originally Posted by gzim335

sorry man you dont know what your talking about.

I asked a question.

[techwhiz]

Originally Posted by rismo

You will burn your AT and also your DCT in a split second...
But give it a try, but please record in with a camera...

I'm curious, why you will burn a DCT clutch or the clutch pack in an AT.
This :
http://www.drifting.com/forums/drift...automatic.html

and
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r.../drifting3.htm

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick


It can be done in an automatic, just easier with a manual.
You need to break traction to initiate the drift. Just like using the e-brake on a FWD car to drift the same can be done with RWD. Done my share of drifting in a low powered RWD car, before people called it drifting and made it a sport.

So if you are trying to use the same technique that you would use in a manual, no it won't work. That being said you will need to look at the various techniques.

BTW - No, I don't drift but have been involved in car racing and auto cross longer than I would guess half the people on this forum have been alive.
I had an e30 M3 that I would "drift" around the work parking lot.
We had a huge lot with no barriers or poles. I'd get to work early just to play in the parking lot.

[shadow191]

You can drift an auto, just not as well. I've seen some local drift events with automatic cars, pull the e-brake and you're good to go. If you're in manual mode and it doesn't upshift, it would work. Not great for the transmission, but not any different than driving at high revs. Converter should be locked at that point so nothing is slipping, it's getting hot, but unless you were redlining for 20 minutes, you're probably fine.

But the thing is, if you're asking this, you should probably learn to drift first. Please don't go out and try this on an on ramp or something.

[AndrewLakes]

Originally Posted by shadow191

You can drift an auto, just not as well. I've seen some local drift events with automatic cars, pull the e-brake and you're good to go. If you're in manual mode and it doesn't upshift, it would work. Not great for the transmission, but not any different than driving at high revs. Converter should be locked at that point so nothing is slipping, it's getting hot, but unless you were redlining for 20 minutes, you're probably fine.

But the thing is, if you're asking this, you should probably learn to drift first. Please don't go out and try this on an on ramp or something.

Do you think the e-brake is even powerful enough to lock the rears without it being in neutral? And if you did, that might be rough on the torque converter to prevent stalling. So I think a no-go for e-brake initiated drifting.

Either way OP, sounds like you want more control while sliding, and therefore LSD is of course a good idea. I can casually power slide corners with my auto 335i non-lsd and have fun still, albeit I'm not going guns blazing holding redline. I see an LSD in my future.

[techwhiz]

You can alway flip the stick into neutral before pulling the ebrake then back into gear.
You can break traction with the right steering technique.

Auto has option, you just need lots of practice.