I'll add the Palisade due to value, size and features you get for $60k. The power train is weak, but you get quite a bit for the price.
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I'll add the Palisade due to value, size and features you get for $60k. The power train is weak, but you get quite a bit for the price.
tooloud10 wroteI believe AWD is an option (maybe it has FWD bias). Now, if one is purchasing as a commuter vehicle with good value and features, then it shouldn't matter. Go with the BMW or Audi for performance. I was able to ride in my uncle's Palisade 2 months ago, enjoyed it and would consider one l, especially if I wanted to shave some hundreds off of my monthly payment.The Palisade/Telluride being FWD is enough of a reason to dismiss them entirely.
pizzamoney wroteOpinions are valuable but the OP is looking for more interior room. The Genesis is worth a look. Turbo 6 cyl and AWD. The Acadia has more room than the X5 as does the Sequoia and Lexus GX. The problem with some of these vehicles is the 4-banger.Hyundai tin cans. They suck compared to BMW, absolutely not in the same class.
Blue87 wroteWe have a 2019 Q7 Prestige in the family, it’s great. However I really wouldn’t recommend the facelift (2020 to current) as the MMI is absolutely horrific and the EA837 engine has numerous issues, not to mention the problematic 48V mild hybrid system. Plus, the interior is devoid of buttons and instead has high gloss black everywhere.I previously had a 2018 Q7 (Prestige) and enjoyed the build quality, 2nd row room and the option to use 3rd row seating. A newer prestige Q7 should be in your range. All of the SQ7s I've seen exceed $100k. I would shop this vehicle again or maybe even the Q8 (no 3rd row).
I'll add the Palisade due to value, size and features you get for $60k. The power train is weak, but you get quite a bit for the price.
The Hyundai and Kia SUV’s are good value for the $$ however won’t drive like any German vehicle.. mainly due to the engine/trans but also the fact they’re FWD bias. Dont even get me started on reliability, they don’t honor their warranty either.
Get a fully loaded Mazda CX-90, BMW X7, or if you need the space something like a final year LX570 (granted, it isn’t sporty, but neither is a suburban..)
PunsGalore wroteI had the CX90 as a rental last year and while I didn't feel it was sporty, it had a decent interior and enough room for 6 to facilitate short to mud-range commutes.We have a 2019 Q7 Prestige in the family, it’s great. However I really wouldn’t recommend the facelift (2020 to current) as the MMI is absolutely horrific and the EA837 engine has numerous issues, not to mention the problematic 48V mild hybrid system. Plus, the interior is devoid of buttons and instead has high gloss black everywhere.
The Hyundai and Kia SUV’s are good value for the $$ however won’t drive like any German vehicle.. mainly due to the engine/trans but also the fact they’re FWD bias. Dont even get me started on reliability, they don’t honor their warranty either.
Get a fully loaded Mazda CX-90, BMW X7, or if you need the space something like a final year LX570 (granted, it isn’t sporty, but neither is a suburban..)
Bummed to hear about the engine woes on the newer q7s. While I did enjoy the 2018 I had, I do feel that the interior wasn't particularly luxurious and thought the upgrades of the next generation where enough to make it premium.
Agreed; Lexus is always a good choice for general reliability, good quality and no-frill reliability.
I would also consider the Volvo XC90, as long as you don't mind low-powered engines and don't have a problem with The brand's ownership.
Blue87 wroteI am with you on this. My neighbor has an Inline-6 turbo CX90. Power isn't great as the spec indicated. Car has lot of NVH. Door closing count cheap and filmsy. Interior room is small for 3 row SUV. I never understand the hype of this car. I will take a MDX over Cx90 any day.I had the CX90 as a rental last year and while I didn't feel it was sporty, it had a decent interior and enough room for 6 to facilitate short to mud-range commutes.
Bummed to hear about the engine woes on the newer q7s. While I did enjoy the 2018 I had, I do feel that the interior wasn't particularly luxurious and thought the upgrades of the next generation where enough to make it premium.
Agreed; Lexus is always a good choice for general reliability, good quality and no-frill reliability.
I would also consider the Volvo XC90, as long as you don't mind low-powered engines and don't have a problem with The brand's ownership.
Blue87 wroteYes, you can get AWD but it’ll still drive like a FWD vehicle. Personally it doesn’t matter whether I’m commuting, shopping, working, or whatever—I want the vehicle to drive a certain way and the X5 delivers perfectly and I know the Korean options won’t.I believe AWD is an option (maybe it has FWD bias). Now, if one is purchasing as a commuter vehicle with good value and features, then it shouldn't matter. Go with the BMW or Audi for performance. I was able to ride in my uncle's Palisade 2 months ago, enjoyed it and would consider one l, especially if I wanted to shave some hundreds off of my monthly payment.
tooloud10 wrote^^^^^^This. Korean vehicles are not really comparable to BMWsYes, you can get AWD but it’ll still drive like a FWD vehicle. Personally it doesn’t matter whether I’m commuting, shopping, working, or whatever—I want the vehicle to drive a certain way and the X5 delivers perfectly and I know the Korean options won’t.
eelnoraa wroteUmm I have had the complete opposite experience. The MDX is absolutely sedate and the base engine is a dog. Most modern 4 cylinder SUVs are better. The CX90 handles quite well and the engine is far more responsive (at least on the turbo S I drove) than a base MDX.I am with you on this. My neighbor has an Inline-6 turbo CX90. Power isn't great as the spec indicated. Car has lot of NVH. Door closing count cheap and filmsy. Interior room is small for 3 row SUV. I never understand the hype of this car. I will take a MDX over Cx90 any day.
I think the CX90 has a higher quality interior too. It looks significantly better too. To me the CX90 feels like a half step down from a BMW and the MDX a full step down. Just goes to show you to each their own. Now if I’m keeping it for 10 years and frugality is a virtue the MDX is one of the better options…but where’s the fun in that?
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tooloud10 wroteThe Palisade/Telluride being FWD is enough of a reason to dismiss them entirely.
tooloud10 wroteBut you didn't mind recommending a Sienna and all confused by my common sense post that's basically the same as what you stated above?Yes, you can get AWD but it’ll still drive like a FWD vehicle. Personally it doesn’t matter whether I’m commuting, shopping, working, or whatever—I want the vehicle to drive a certain way and the X5 delivers perfectly and I know the Korean options won’t.
tooloud10 wroteA Sienna actually seems to be one of the most obvious options in any comparison of kid haulers that includes the GMC Yukon.
11010X101 wroteVans, Sienna in this case, are nice for their utilities but justifying a van over X5 is not quite convincing. Lol. I don't think these two go or pair together that common. All the van families I know (I know a lot. Lol) the other car is usually a Toyota pickup or Lexus RX/ES.
11010X101 wroteIt is a bad choice for anyone appreciating any driving dynamics, which is why the original post still kind of confuses me.Palisade/Telluride are not a bad choice for a man looking for more family utilities. But if X5 is on your list, definitely worth checking out the GLE/GLS. Second row is much more kids friendly than X5/7. MY is also not a bad choice either.
I mean, I'd already be over at the BMW dealer buying a loaded X7 if I were OP but if they're gonna consider a GMC Yukon they might as well consider a Sienna as well.But you didn't mind recommending a Sienna and all confused by my common sense post that's basically the same as what you stated above?
The Sienna is not really comparable to a Yukon Denali which is an awesome vehicle.
The current G05s are very tough to beat if that size SUV meets your needs but there are not legions of young families allready strapped with all sorts of debt who can go the better part of 100 large or more for a BMW.
