[werdn]

Who was the one guy who bought an i8 in Q2 2022? Thats quite an achievement hahaha

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by IcEWoLF

Surprised…the 4 series doing this well.
I guess aesthetics don’t matter that much.

SUV sales are still strong. X5 and X3 leading the way.

i4 sold with heavy subsidy are lumped in with all 4 series.

[10"]

Great to see SUV sales down and passenger car sales up!!!

[Hassan1490]

Probably, BMW is the only car manufacturer that has its Non-SUV cars growing every year.

I don't know how the 5 series sales are up for the end of this generation. I was looking for one, and they were selling really great, without any big rebates or discounts.
I contacted many dealers in the East coast and central states, but no one offered more than couple of thousands of the MSRP.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by werdn

Who was the one guy who bought an i8 in Q2 2022? Thats quite an achievement hahaha

He probably got a great deal because the odds are the i8 was just sitting in some dealer’s showroom going nowhere fast.

[ArchJR]

Originally Posted by Tag

2 Series down -21.7%. That's a surprise.

That fluctuation could reflect orders from Sixt and dealer loaner purchases more than consumer sales.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by wesleyan92

No worries - they are both hideous looking

That brings up a topic I fail to understand:
If you're building a EV, why design it to look like those evil fossil fuel, planet destroying relics of the past?

Own your pretentious environmental superiority. You don't need no stinking grill, you have no radiator, you're not going to pop down to the local BMW shop and have the optional planet destroying petrol engine installed.

If you want to squeeze every mile out of every BTU available why compromise the drag coefficient with a fascia with the aerodynamics of a brick?

[Korokoro]

Originally Posted by Hassan1490

I don't know how the 5 series sales are up for the end of this generation. I was looking for one, and they were selling really great, without any big rebates or discounts.

My guess is that many customers were trying to get a 5-series before the only one available was the new model. So far it’s only the i5, but it seems that the 530 and 540 will also feature an ungainly front end, a curved combination instrument/control panel, fewer physical buttons, a higher MSRP and no rebates. I have a ‘22 M440i GC / G26, which is excellent except for its lack of power seats and its bulkiness vs. the previous F36 model. Until now I was thinking of replacing it with a new 5 series. Were you able to get the older model for a decent price?

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Jason

BMW of North America Reports Q2 2023 U.S. Sales Results.


BMW Brand Sales Increase 11.5 % in Q2 2023 vs Q2 2022.
Fully Electric Vehicles Account for 12.9% of Total BMW Brand Sales in Q2.
In the First Half of 2023, BMW Sold 17,964 Fully Electric Vehicles, Already Surpassing Full Year 2022 Totals.
Q2 2023 MINI Sales Increase by 47.8% vs Q2 2022.


Woodcliff Lake, NJ – July 5, 2023… BMW of North America today reported Q2 2023 sales results for the BMW and MINI brands in the U.S.

BMW Brand
In the second quarter of 2023, BMW brand sales in the U.S. totaled 87,948 vehicles, an 11.5% increase from the 78,905 vehicles sold in the second quarter of 2022. Through the first half of the year, BMW brand sales total 170,414 vehicles, an 11.7% increase as compared to the same time period last year.

BMW Electric Vehicle Sales
Sales of BMW’s fully electric models continued to grow as inventory has become more available. In the second quarter of 2023, BMW’s three fully electric models (BMW i4, BMW iX, and BMW i7) accounted for 12.9% of total sales volume. Through the first six months of 2023, BMW sold a total of 17,964 fully electric vehicles, already surpassing the year-end total achieved in 2022.

“The word is out – the ‘Ultimate Driving Machine’ is also the ‘Ultimate Electric Driving Machine’,” said Sebastian Mackensen, President and CEO, BMW of North America. “As the enthusiasm around these great products grows, we continue to gain both momentum with customers and BEV share in the market.”

[B]MINI Brand [...]

These are incredibly great numbers. 4 series and X5 are on fire! Amazing job by the execs at BMW for great strategy and execution. Even the XM sales are beating expectations!

[Tallest]

Comparing sales to 2022 Q2 which was horrible in terms of shortages. People finally getting their cars they were promised a year ago but didnt get at the time.

One has to look through the noise here.

This is nothing to do with big grilles.

[grueber]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

That brings up a topic I fail to understand:
If you're building a EV, why design it to look like those evil fossil fuel, planet destroying relics of the past?

Own your pretentious environmental superiority. You don't need no stinking grill, you have no radiator, you're not going to pop down to the local BMW shop and have the optional planet destroying petrol engine installed.

If you want to squeeze every mile out of every BTU available why compromise the drag coefficient with a fascia with the aerodynamics of a brick?

Mercedes tried that.

I don’t want to drive an egg.

The iX coefficient is 0.26 vs EQS 0.20. iX is no slouch.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Tallest

Comparing sales to 2022 Q2 which was horrible in terms of shortages. People finally getting their cars they were promised a year ago but didnt get at the time.

One has to look through the noise here.

This is nothing to do with big grilles.

So other brands didn't have promised cars from a year ago? Or other models with small grills?

Typical case of reshaping - adapting facts to your biases.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

That brings up a topic I fail to understand:
If you're building a EV, why design it to look like those evil fossil fuel, planet destroying relics of the past?

Own your pretentious environmental superiority. You don't need no stinking grill, you have no radiator, you're not going to pop down to the local BMW shop and have the optional planet destroying petrol engine installed.

If you want to squeeze every mile out of every BTU available why compromise the drag coefficient with a fascia with the aerodynamics of a brick?

You need the grill and all that because design also needs to manage perceptions. People are used to a certain shape of cars, and they demand that. Especially if you're BMW with 100 year old traditions. Even a small shift in the hoffmeister kink drive people crazy.

[Korokoro]

Originally Posted by dmode

The most hated models (in any BMW forum) in BMW line up are raking up the highest sales growth. That’s hilarious

Much as we dislike admitting it, maybe the folks at BMW are right to take our opinions with half a grain of salt. The designers and carmakers have to make changes, even ones some of us might dislike at first, to lead and differentiate the cars from their current models and those of competitors.

Another reason might be that most of us ultimately care more about performance and functionality than style, so we buy the new BMWs regardless of design quirks. In my case, I didn’t love the new grille on the 4-series Gran Coupe, but wanted the space and utility of its cargo hatch (without having to get a boxy SUV). The new model is also better in several ways. So as long as my wife approves, I can live with it. I have received only compliments on the car so far, especially from women.

[BimmerXdrive]

Not even 1,000 XM’s sold….GOOD maybe they will wake up!

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by swampfox94

Hate it or love it the 4 series is crushing it

Remember when everyone said 4er won’t sell because of the design? (LOL)

Remember when everyone said BMW was “so behind” in EV when the i4 was launched? (LOL)

The i4 has to be one of the sleeper value (if you can even call it that) vehicle. Aside from the 4er Gran Coupe M Performance edition that we got, BMW isn’t even manufacturing the Gran Coupe for the Canadian market because the i4 is in high demand.

[BimmerXdrive]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Do you think BMW would rather sell 1000 XMs or 3,000 2-series? Which one should they remove from the lineup if given a choice?

What’s your rationale?

My rational is the XM looks like a Frankenstein. Maybe they will reconsider designing such atrocities to improve the sales.

[Brandt51]

Originally Posted by werdn

Who was the one guy who bought an i8 in Q2 2022? Thats quite an achievement hahaha

Knows a guy who knows a guy that steals shit.

But why are sales numbers up the 3 pages of internet chat? What is this, a political forum?!

[nick3753]

Unfortunately, selling ugly in your face vehicles, telling of today’s society.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by nick3753

Unfortunately, selling ugly in your face vehicles, telling of today’s society.

So people’s taste don’t match with yours, and that’s telling of today’s ‘society’, I assume in a negative way. Wow. That’s quite an ego You may need a mirror.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by BimmerXdrive

Not even 1,000 XM’s sold….GOOD maybe they will wake up!

That’s a very good number for XM.

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Or maybe, just maybe, the product is still good despite the controversial styling?

The product is great. I am a HUGE hater of the design and shift in BMWs legacy, however, I had both the new 760i as a loaner and the new X7 M60i when my X7 was in the shop recently, and I can only say in the case of the 7 series, the improvements are significant and the vehicle is outright amazing. The LCI X7, not so much - I found it to be worse than the pre-LCI X7.

Independently, i think the sales numbers clearly show that BMWs design, branding and target market shift is working out well for them and consumers are responding positively by buying the new-style BMWs more and leaving the old-style ones on the lot.