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      11-13-2024, 12:35 PM   #8537
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https://www.troweprice.com/en/us/ins...und-the-corner

T Rowe Price has some very good analysts. I've been with them since the 1980s.
That's a good look... sadly I don't think any of those potential scenarios are what I would consider to be good... as the end result is inflation, rates from years ago or recession...

The China stimulus package will most certainly cause inflation... the normal cycle will just put us in like w 5-6% rates... this isn't spurring any "real demand" so to speak especially given what we've been used to for 15 years. The third scenario (IMHO most likely especially if more inflation comes back) is the worst of all...
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My moonshot (LUNR) is up 18% today, in advance of tomorrow's earnings call.....
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My moonshot (LUNR) is up 18% today, in advance of tomorrow's earnings call.....
Ooh, nice. I didn't get the impression that anyone here bought individual stocks. FWIW, Morningstar sets their fair value at $12.64. I hope it goes even higher for you. I cannot say that I ever heard of this company. I'd consider the award of that big NASA contract to be a huge endorsement. A 354% YTD gain is quite a moonshot, indeed. Nice pun, BTW.
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I cannot say that I ever heard of this company. I'd consider the award of that big NASA contract to be a huge endorsement. A 354% YTD gain is quite a moonshot, indeed. Nice pun, BTW.
They are the people that successfully landed on the moon last spring, a first for a private company. I was more sold on their Earth-based ground stations for moon probes and manned missions when I bought it last year, because they built their own from scratch and aren't leeching off of NASA's like other companies. The NASA contract validated my decision to buy it.

This is all in my family's multi-generation play money investment account, and I only bought a grand of the stock well before their moon landing.

Speaking of puns, I'm hoping that it doesn't crater after tomorrow's earnings call.....
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They are the people that successfully landed on the moon last spring, a first for a private company. I was more sold on their Earth-based ground stations for moon probes and manned missions when I bought it last year, because they built their own from scratch and aren't leeching off of NASA's like other companies. The NASA contract validated my decision to buy it.

This is all in my family's multi-generation play money investment account, and I only bought a grand of the stock well before their moon landing.

Speaking of puns, I'm hoping that it doesn't crater after tomorrow's earnings call.....
That is the weird thing about earnings calls. a company can report positively, and it still causes a drop. Or they can report mediocre and the stock can soar.

This sounds like a solid choice for an exploration position to me. More puns.

On edit: Mr Market is still over the moon on LUNR. Another 23% gain in after hours trading.
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I admittedly haven’t played with the market up until recently (…our deferred compensation investments are handled via Charles Schwab and our government pension portfolio via the county). That said, I decided to dabble a little bit recently, acquiring shares of DJT, HON and AAOI. Any tips for a stock newbie?
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my stock tip of the year: do not buy ACHC, if you own ACHC then sell now its only going to get worse.
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I admittedly haven’t played with the market up until recently (…our deferred compensation investments are handled via Charles Schwab and our government pension portfolio via the county). That said, I decided to dabble a little bit recently, acquiring shares of DJT, HON and AAOI. Any tips for a stock newbie?
I just got in, because I was tired of seeing the predictable ups and downs of Tesla and not acting on it. Naturally, when I got in, they were at the upper peak (of where I would have sold them at) so I didn't buy, figuring in a few months they'd be down at my buy point. Then the election happened. I'm staying away for now, but honestly can't tell if the market has fully priced in Elon's proximity to Trump...there may be further bump ups.

So instead, I just put everything into two ETF's. XEQT and QQQ. On paper they've appreciated roughly 3% already in less than a month. If that growth were to continue, I'd be quite happy, but not counting on it. My goal is to just sock $5-8K / month away into those two going forward.
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I just got in, because I was tired of seeing the predictable ups and downs of Tesla and not acting on it. Naturally, when I got in, they were at the upper peak (of where I would have sold them at) so I didn't buy, figuring in a few months they'd be down at my buy point. Then the election happened. I'm staying away for now, but honestly can't tell if the market has fully priced in Elon's proximity to Trump...there may be further bump ups.

So instead, I just put everything into two ETF's. XEQT and QQQ. On paper they've appreciated roughly 3% already in less than a month. If that growth were to continue, I'd be quite happy, but not counting on it. My goal is to just sock $5-8K / month away into those two going forward.
I was thinking about a few ETF’s too. I’ll take a look at those.
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Any tips for a stock newbie?
The usual suggestion for new investors is to put your money into an index fund that tracks the S&P 500 and let it ride. The bulk of my play money investing account is in one most of the time.....
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The usual suggestion for new investors is to put your money into an index fund that tracks the S&P 500 and let it ride. The bulk of my play money investing account is in one most of the time.....
Well that’s already occurring with my deferred compensation plan handled by Schwab. I put 8.5% of each paycheck into my deferred compensation for Schwab to do what they do best. Another 15% goes into the pension fund.

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My moon shot LUNR is up 11% today.....
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My moon shot LUNR is up 11% today.....
When'd you get in? $5 mark?
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Well that’s already occurring with my deferred compensation plan handled by Schwab. I put 8.5% of each paycheck into my deferred compensation for Schwab to do what they do best. Another 15% goes into the pension fund.
Putting 24% of your money away is pretty smart, gotta say. Not too many do that and I'm sure it will pay off.

How much longer you have to go to hit pension? I'm assuming for police the lifespan required to hit "retirement" is much shorter than your average public service employee.
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Putting 24% of your money away is pretty smart, gotta say. Not too many do that and I'm sure it will pay off.

How much longer you have to go to hit pension? I'm assuming for police the lifespan required to hit "retirement" is much shorter than your average public service employee.
I have 13 years left. That’ll get me to 20 years with my current department, and 7.5 years with my prior state department. I might try to buy back the 4 years I spent non-sworn with San Bernardino County, but that’ll depend on cost. If I can retire with no-debt besides my house, I’ll be in good shape. Everything is paid off except the 911, but I have that on a fast-track plan to get the $87k I owe paid off in 2.5-3 years.

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You guys think uncertainty has been reduced?

how?

there is still a ton of uncertainty irrelevant of politics and who is in charge...

But now with Trump winning... How do you know the tariffs won't be put in day one? How do you know how the tax cut extension will be handled? How do you know Jpowell isn't getting kicked out? Control what you can but there is an enormous ton of uncertainty at the moment... one of the ideas touted on the campaign trail was maximization of our exports which as stated by vance would be done thru the devaluation of the $...
You’re joking right?
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When'd you get in? $5 mark?
Holy crap, it finished yesterday up 21.4%!

IIRC, I bought in at $5.20 in early February, when I was reading a non-investor article about their upcoming moon landing attempt in a few weeks and owning their own space communications ground stations around the world. Everyone was focused on the moon lander, but as I and NASA figured out their more valuable asset is the ~$5 billion ground station network for lunar communications/navigation.....
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Holy crap! My moon shot LUNR just closed at $14.00, up another $1.93 today.....
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We are about to get nailed on inflation so dump your cash boys-

the new admin has virtually promised all inflationary policies...

tariffs, removal of a cheap labor force and extension of tax cuts which all add another $4 trilly to the deficit lol

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/26/trum...nd-mexico.html
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We are about to get nailed on inflation so dump your cash boys-

the new admin has virtually promised all inflationary policies...

tariffs, removal of a cheap labor force and extension of tax cuts which all add another $4 trilly to the deficit lol

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/26/trump-vows-an-additional-10percent-tariff-on-china-25percent-tariffs-on-canada-and-mexico.html
I think the opposite. I think everybody’s pockets are going to get fuller. There’s a strategy behind the tariffs (…and it’s going to prove effective), removal of cheap ILLEGAL labor is good for working class Americans, etc.
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I think the opposite. I think everybody’s pockets are going to get fuller. There’s a strategy behind the tariffs (…and it’s going to prove effective), removal of cheap ILLEGAL labor is good for working class Americans, etc.
Time will tell us how many working class Americans show up to pick fruits/vegetables, make up hotel rooms, do landscaping, work construction, etc.
My gut feeling is that those not working now are doing so electively, and won’t return to the workforce in those jobs either.
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I think the opposite. I think everybody’s pockets are going to get fuller. There’s a strategy behind the tariffs (…and it’s going to prove effective), removal of cheap ILLEGAL labor is good for working class Americans, etc.
I think this is just a lack of understanding of economics on your part

I'll give you a few real world examples -

1) I worked in an industry that was affected by tariffs last time in 2019. All we did, was pass on the consumer the full cost of the tariff... the corresponding domestic industry raised their prices as well... just because they could... the net result was higher price for the consumer all around. This is also a violation of the USMCA by the way.

2) Removal of illegal labor? So um... who is going to do those jobs and at what wage? u? Are you prepared to pay a higher wage for your fellow US workers? Or are we gonna throw a subsidy and end up paying thru this in taxes?

3) Tax cuts - this one is to be seen... but the extension of the tax cuts will bring about another 4T to the national deficit... so um... how is that going to be made up? With DOGE adjustements lol? Well... in that case, we need to prepare for mass unemployment as well.
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