BMW iM3 trademark reveals electric M3 EV name

///M TOWN · 11-27-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by forcefed

Only way to capture that is to keep the weight down, and since the i4 is 5000lbs I'm having doubts. It weighs as much as the model S plaid but it's as fast as the model 3. The new ev only platform will make or break the im3. If they can keep the weight down to model 3 numbers then it'll be a winner.

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Originally Posted by ASAP

the closest thing we have on this earth to an exciting and involving EV is the Porsche Taycan and they are absolutely tanking in value and folks that bought them are reselling them to purchase back 911s...
really curious to see how this goes

That’s because they purchased them

They should have Leased them

EV‘s are like Cell Phones…

MUFCbmwbear · 11-27-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 440i6MT

Wouldn't "M3i" look and sound better?

Id prefer ///M3e

///M TOWN · 11-27-2023, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

BMWs model designation with an i suffix indicates it's a gas powered fuel injected car. A prefix of i indicates it's an electric model. BTW, the prefix i stands for innovation.

ingenious

freakystyly · 11-27-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by odiesback

The “i” letter should never be allowed anywhere near an M badge.

Toyota already has done it.

8MW · 11-27-2023, 02:13 PM

Why does BMW have to follow Apple with this i business? Electric does not start with an i, it starts with an e. I don’t get all this i fetish.

IAmSpeed · 11-27-2023, 02:39 PM

With that kind of range on a full charge, maybe just me but I would pass.

Lady Jane · 11-27-2023, 03:16 PM

That should keep the M-Police busy.

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G30 B58 · 11-27-2023, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by forcefed

Only way to capture that is to keep the weight down, and since the i4 is 5000lbs I'm having doubts. It weighs as much as the model S plaid but it's as fast as the model 3. The new ev only platform will make or break the im3. If they can keep the weight down to model 3 numbers then it'll be a winner.

They can keep the weight down, it just wont have any range.

Until battery tech gets better.

NotSharocks · 11-27-2023, 04:40 PM

At least the build quality will be better than a Tesla.

This is the only positive I can see.

Everything else is negative.

I'm grounded.

LOL

HP Autosport · 11-27-2023, 04:46 PM

If not as quick as the Model S Plaid, please be at quicker than the Model 3 Performance along with all the road manners and track performance the M badge has been known for.

MT6 · 11-27-2023, 04:53 PM

Sometime before 2030 world will realize the charging infrastructure is not ready and all the EV mandates shall get pushed out. ICE shall live on at least until 2040

Unless Tesla is assumed to be the only charge stations they can’t scale world wide on their own.

iM3 will be an option along with Hybrid

TXSchnee · 11-27-2023, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

I just looked, dang you are right, those things are under 85k now. Interesting.

Used 2023s like mine aren’t tanking. Looks like maybe 10% hit at worst. Honestly, I expect the Taycan to have resale values mirroring the Panamera, which just like the 7 Series, are not great. Pretty much anything Porsche, not special edition doesn’t hold value all that well.

Blue Angel · 11-27-2023, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dgjo2022X5MC

I noted a long and colorful ad during football games for Taycans. When I see lots of ads, I often think sales are down and need a jump start. I could be very wrong, but...

Bingo. YouTube has been littered with Ford ads lately, promoting mainly the Mach E and Lightning pickup. Apparently they’re piling up on dealer lots.

Blue Angel · 11-27-2023, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 8MW

Why does BMW have to follow Apple with this i business? Electric does not start with an i, it starts with an e. I don’t get all this i fetish.

Because the E-fetish is even more played out in the EV market, but I agree… I-anything these days is stupid if it’s not an Apple product.

PfizerP · 11-27-2023, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Evinrude1975

As happy M3 owner, I really hope the “i” is an alternative, not a replacement.

Well I thought the G80 was supposed to be the final ICE M3. I think the "i" is a replacement...

RyanBMW · 11-27-2023, 05:22 PM

Hallelujah!!

carseatsm5 · 11-27-2023, 06:04 PM

I feel for BMW (and the other car manufacturers). They’re in an impossible spot trying to manage this incredibly complex technological and brand transition, and it’s not on their timeline. Or even the consumer’s timeline.

Spend decades carefully iterating and developing your product and then it’s regulated away. If they manage to re-create the M3 magic in an EV this quickly it would be a total miracle.

G30M · 11-27-2023, 06:15 PM

I see they are competing with tesla M3P

M3JetPilot · 11-27-2023, 06:37 PM

I have faith in BMW and believe they will make an epic and fun electric M3. If it looks anything like this pic then it’s a good start. It’s definitely better than some of BMW’s recent designs. Now a great interior and performance and maybe an EV M3 won’t be too bad.

KoenG · 11-27-2023, 06:43 PM

I have no doubt that this will be an ultimate BEAST of a car that will demolish all we know.

Perfect torque vectoring on each and individual wheel will allow for incredible yaw control. The combo with electric drive is perfect since near to zero lag. It will be able to squeeze max effect in the direction the driver wants by vectoring torque on every tire to reach the max lateral/transversal grip possible every millisecond over and over again.

Let it come brother, the new benchmark for usable performance is rising!!!

KoenG · 11-27-2023, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carseatsm5

I feel for BMW (and the other car manufacturers). They’re in an impossible spot trying to manage this incredibly complex technological and brand transition, and it’s not on their timeline. Or even the consumer’s timeline.

Spend decades carefully iterating and developing your product and then it’s regulated away. If they manage to re-create the M3 magic in an EV this quickly it would be a total miracle.

prepare for a miracle then.

JK479 · 11-27-2023, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

the closest thing we have on this earth to an exciting and involving EV is the Porsche Taycan and they are absolutely tanking in value and folks that bought them are reselling them to purchase back 911s...

really curious to see how this goes

You make a good point. I’m considering a 4s that retailed for 138,000- it’s 71,000 right now on the lot with 29,000 miles. And that’s with the 94 kw upgraded battery with 270 miles of range. Also- that’s Porsche certified. Which means on trade it just have come in under 50,000.00? WTH?

Is this a good deal now or is the EV market just a massive depreciating fleet?

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