[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by x622

It is even worse. What is that extra black line on the side for? Why is it so tall?

Obviously it adds 20hp

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Honestly not as bad in person IMO

Sucks in person and out of person. Lexus has made 2 decent looking cars in their whole 26 year history.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Sucks in person and out of person. Lexus has made 2 decent looking cars in their whole 26 year history.

Out of person? You floatin out of body to look at Lexus models?

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

I agree, but it's a bit like comparing waxed arse holes.

Bleaching has come a long way.

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by x622

It is even worse. What is that extra black line on the side for? Why is it so tall?

I can't stand the random black lines. 7 series is wrecked by them.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Sucks in person and out of person. Lexus has made 2 decent looking cars in their whole 26 year history.

I've never been a fan of the look of any of them, but then I'm not a fan of the look of most Japanese cars. My main issue with this new ES is that it seems they are trying to make it look sporty in typical Japanese style with crazy accents, sharp edges etc, but to me the ES is not and should not be sporty. It's a luxury land yacht and I think it should look more like that.

As much as I don't care for Lexus exterior design, I hate the interiors even more and I think this new one is the ONLY Lexus interior I don't hate since ever.

Originally Posted by brianeck

I can't stand the random black lines. 7 series is wrecked by them.

I agree. Hopefully this is some kind of sport trim and when it's actually out they will over a version with those lines in body color.

[dumptruck]

Nobody talking about that space-age concept sitting beside it.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

I've never been a fan of the look of any of them, but then I'm not a fan of the look of most Japanese cars. My main issue with this new ES is that it seems they are trying to make it look sporty in typical Japanese style with crazy accents, sharp edges etc, but to me the ES is not and should not be sporty. It's a luxury land yacht and I think it should look more like that.

Yep.
Also, it looks like they jumped on the "sh*tting brake" (aka semi-wagon) style just after the Germans tried it, figured out it was a mistake, and have since abandoned it.
Honda made the same mistake with Accord and tanked that model's sales by more than 1/2 since 2023.

Originally Posted by dumptruck

Nobody talking about that space-age concept sitting beside it.

I actually kinda like the other two cars sitting next to that ES seppuku.
I don't know what that grey coupe is, but it looks very sleek. Almost too cool to be a Lexus - a prototype?
The white SUV looks like an RZ - one of the better looking and cleaner Lexus designs out there.

IMHO,
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[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by G30M

don' know man, i think it's nicer than this

Ah yes, the BMW Accord

[mjr24]

Lexus has been irrelevant for 20 years….

[Rocket455]

Originally Posted by x622

It is even worse. What is that extra black line on the side for? Why is it so tall?

The dimensions seem identical to the current Toyota Crown (US market) which is also ungainly tall for a sedan.

[Bald Guy]

I guess I'm one of the few dodos who likes Lexus vehicles to a certain extent.

The current/previous Lexus ES is an excellent buy. Both the hybrid and V6 are attractive as far as a reliable and comfortable commuter.

Lexus/Toyota vehicles are not for everyone, just like any other make and model. Hopefully they can keep the price point the same/similar to the current ES.

[xander_g]

I do not find it offensive, expected worse to be honest.

[NickyC]

To this day, every time I see a G80 or G82 from the rear, I think it's a Lexus at first. BMW totally ripped 'em off.

[Daeda01]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Ah yes, the BMW Accord

Lol. Too true. My brother has an Accord and its look just like this.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Sucks in person and out of person. Lexus has made 2 decent looking cars in their whole 26 year history.

Which ones? Just curious I can think of a handful of good designs.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Which ones? Just curious I can think of a handful of good designs.

I'm assuming he's going to say the LFA and LC500.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

I'm assuming he's going to say the LFA and LC500.

Yeah and who could argue with that? Just curious.

I also really liked the RCF, ISF, and tbh the old IS350 was pretty good looking despite its weird tail lights. IS500 wasn't bad but suffered from the oversize grille of today..

I think those are still less than 25yo.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Yeah and who could argue with that? Just curious.

I also really liked the RCF, ISF, and tbh the old IS350 was pretty good looking despite its weird tail lights. IS500 wasn't bad but suffered from the oversize grille of today..

I think those are still less than 25yo.

I certainly wouldn't argue with those. I've owned a few Lexus IS's and have always thought each generation was good looking (including the current). The RC line as well is a nice looking coupe and one of my favorites was the GS-F. I'd buy one today if they weren't still fetching pretty high prices.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

The RC line as well is a nice looking coupe and one of my favorites was the GS-F. I'd buy one today if they weren't still fetching pretty high prices.

I've given serious thought of buying RCF Final Edition before it goes EOL.
Great sounding 472-horsepower naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V8 engine.
Just don't need a 2-door right now.

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Which ones? Just curious I can think of a handful of good designs.

The only ones I like are the LC and IS500. The SUV's are hideous, especially the new EV's.