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      06-27-2023, 07:24 PM   #45
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Look at this design inside out then look at XM...maybe it's just me, but this looks far better than XM
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Looks really good! Performance numbers aren’t bad at the price point either.
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      06-27-2023, 07:35 PM   #47
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Interesting! I like it.
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      06-27-2023, 07:45 PM   #48
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Bravo BMW! This is going to eat into Golf R sales I’d imagine.
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Big fan. This is slick.
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      06-27-2023, 08:00 PM   #50
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Again DCT, WTF?
bmw only has a dct left for fwd based cars... this shares the mini platform which also uses dct in fwd config
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Bowers & Wilkens in the X1 but not G8X M? Oh boy
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Bowers & Wilkens in the X1 but not G8X M? Oh boy
Harmon/Kardon is standard, no mention of Bowers & Wilkins. The Harmon/Kardon was already available on the X1 as an option.
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      06-27-2023, 08:09 PM   #53
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It’s rare these days to find Bimmerpost mostly liking the styling of a modern BMW. As for the specs, it’s not an M car and price reflects it. Rather, it’s an attractive entry level premium SUV, functional, fast enough to be fun, with classic BMW styling. Most importantly, priced well for what you get.

To me, it looks leagues better than any new BMW, including the M variants. It’s proportional, understated yet sporty and looks great from about every angle; quiet a feat these days.
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My first initial thoughts:
-Those seats are seriously badass for a non-M car. like wtf?!
-quad exhaust tips? geez
-back to the 35i nameplate? Thought we ditched this with the introduction of the b58 and x40i
-> An "M" car should never have less than 6 cyllinders. no thanks

that’s all!
It’s always been 35i. Nothing is “back to” as it’s never gone. 35i and 40i are different designations and were introduced and live together.
In the same breath you said this car had bad ass seats for a “non-M” car you say that an “M” car should not have less than 6 cylinders. Choose one?
And the first M3 was a 4 cylinder. Although many disagreed it should be a 4 cylinder too since it had less power than the 325i…
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a preview of the G45-X3? I wouldnt be mad.
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I like it a lot. I wonder if it will come with ventilated seats (unlikely...)

anybody wanna take a crack at photoshopping it lowered?
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When an X1 looks better than a lot of the current bimmers.
It's really annoying from an enthusiast standpoint. I agree that this looks pretty good. Almost like the current M2 styling was actually based on just shortening the vertical on all the features of this, but it actually works much better on this. Seems the tail is wagging the dog.
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This is really nice. First new design I’ve liked from just the pictures in a while. I’ll be checking this out for sure.

EDIT - just noticed that the muffler is painted black too in these pics. What a true improvement.
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Yeah agree, kind of a shame it definitely takes away from the full m cars. I wonder if bmw would make a X1m, probably not.
This mindset always puzzles me. The release of an M sport car with M Stuff on it doesn't make full blown M cars slower, doesn't make them look or drive worse than they did.

I think it would be a lot easier if people just said what they meant which is: "I don't feel as special or superior now", because the car you bought and parked in your garage is still exactly the same as it was when you bought it, the introduction of features to a car you don't have has literally zero affect on anything but ego.

It's a bit like eating a sandwich next to a person who doesn't and then when someone gives them one suddenly saying your not hungry anymore just because they got one too.
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How did BMW somehow manage to match the 0-60 of the e84, a 10+ year old design? This thing needs a diet, even with a 4 cyl its almost 1000lbs heavier than the e84 35i. What an absolute joke, I can't think of many other bmw's that matched the performance of the same model 10+ years ago.
What?

The E84 also didn't weigh 1000 lbs. less than this new X1. This new X1 is 3790 lbs. You're saying that the E84 weighs the same as a Honda Civic? lol

3790 lbs and a 5.2 0-60 is pretty darn good for a small crossover.

Actually, I think the U11 35i is lighter than the E84 35i by about 100 lbs.
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Here's a review:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024...rformance-suv/
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This mindset always puzzles me. The release of an M sport car with M Stuff on it doesn't make full blown M cars slower, doesn't make them look or drive worse than they did.

I think it would be a lot easier if people just said what they meant which is: "I don't feel as special or superior now", because the car you bought and parked in your garage is still exactly the same as it was when you bought it, the introduction of features to a car you don't have has literally zero affect on anything but ego.

It's a bit like eating a sandwich next to a person who doesn't and then when someone gives them one suddenly saying your not hungry anymore just because they got one too.
Dude I just made a comment. At the end of the day do you think I care a non m car has quad exhaust. I don’t. Relax this supposed to be a friendly forum. Sorry I “puzzled” you.
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Pretty much identical spec to the iX1 minus the tailpipes of course.

5.4-second zero to 100km/h acceleration time vs 5.6 for the electric.

Both have the same suspension. aka adaptive but not adaptive.

Makes you really wonder what the value proposition is here? I guess if you don't like electric.
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I am an enthusiast and I would like a fast X1 that sits high from the ground: said no one so far.

Pointless upgrade for soccer moms who can’t drive X3 M40i.

An M lite car with 4 banger coz B58 is an overkill.

This will make it into the 2 series and possibly 3 series going forward.
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I am an enthusiast and I would like a fast X1 that sits high from the ground: said no one so far.

Pointless upgrade for soccer moms who can’t drive X3 M40i.
I agree, I reckon they didn't give it more power so as not to cannibalise the market for the X3.

The extras you get with this probably don't outweight the suffering of living with it day to day.
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Dude I just made a comment. At the end of the day do you think I care a non m car has quad exhaust. I don’t. Relax this supposed to be a friendly forum. Sorry I “puzzled” you.
FWIW your comment was plainly correct and nothing about it was puzzling.

People pay a premium for differentiated performance and differentiated styling. If the hallmark M styling cues can be found on virtually every BMW then M buyers who already paid that premium are getting shafted.
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