CTS-V vs jb4 M3

[Evooooo]

Raced my boys m3 last night. No video sorry guys. Pulled 5 cars in Mexico spinning 2nd n 3rd on 4 runs. One run he jumped out like 4 cars because he cheated haha but I reeled him in. Don't get me wrong car hauls ass but I knew I was going to rape him as I am over 600whp, prob 626-650 due to weather temps here now at night. Reason for the post obviously being to brag I killed him...but on a serious note what would it take for him to keep up, 550whp? Up top the M doesn't stand a chance because of how hard it falls on its face. Also curious because I may pass on the new V when it comes out and get the M3, love the ride and feeling of the car when I drove it and white is so sexy.

[Maddict3]

I raced a stock CTS-V with JB on map 1 and won. What are the mods on yours?

Also, I didn't know you can gain 25-50 whp just because the weather is good.

[Evooooo]

Originally Posted by Maddict3

Is your V stock? Because I raced a stock CTS-V with JB on map 1 and won.

No no see dyno, I attached for reference, e-85 tuned. I wish the m3's tuned curve was shifted right about 2k.

[Evooooo]

Originally Posted by Maddict3

I raced a stock CTS-V with JB on map 1 and won. What are the mods on yours?

Also, I didn't know you can gain 25-50 whp just because the weather is good.

I was tuned on a humid rainy 70* day. Nights here are 50* and lower now with very low humidity, denser air colder iat's = pow pow. I've seen cars pick up substantial power from conditions. Turbos benefit more I believe.

[Maddict3]

Originally Posted by Evooooo

No no see dyno, I attached for reference, e-85 tuned. I wish the m3's tuned curve was shifted right about 2k.

Yeah once I saw the dyno I edited the post.

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Evooooo

Raced my boys m3 last night. No video sorry guys. Pulled 5 cars in Mexico spinning 2nd n 3rd on 4 runs. One run he jumped out like 4 cars because he cheated haha but I reeled him in. Don't get me wrong car hauls ass but I knew I was going to rape him as I am over 600whp, prob 626-650 due to weather temps here now at night. Reason for the post obviously being to brag I killed him...but on a serious note what would it take for him to keep up, 550whp? Up top the M doesn't stand a chance because of how hard it falls on its face. Also curious because I may pass on the new V when it comes out and get the M3, love the ride and feeling of the car when I drove it and white is so sexy.

Id like to see your car vs. full exhaust/DP Map7 +race fuel M3/4. I feel like the JB4 car you ran must have been Map 1 and not even great fuel for those results.

[damnitBobby]

you and "your boy" have quarter mile times?

would mean more than the baseless comments about car lengths

[Newguy123]

lol video or it didnt happen. a bone stock s55 with just jb4 and good fuel make 520whp....and pretty sure youre quite a bit heavier. so yo boi was prob on map 1 with pump gas..450ish whp.

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

with just jb4 and good fuel make 520whp....

HAHAHAhahahaaaaaaaaaa

You guys are hilarious.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

a bone stock s55 with just jb4

How can jb4 be bone stock?

[Newguy123]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

How can jb4 be bone stock?

huh? no other modifications JUST JB4 on a otherwise bone stock car...jesus man can you read?

[Newguy123]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

HAHAHAhahahaaaaaaaaaa

You guys are hilarious.

not sure whats soo funny about that? if you were at the SOCAL EAS dyno day you would have seen JB4 ONLY S55'smaking 520+ whp. catless JB4 AS HIGH AS 560whp. THE cts-v SOUNDS LIKE ITS fbo and he ran a S55 on map 1

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

huh? no other modifications JUST JB4 on a otherwise bone stock car...jesus man can you read?

Yes I can read and you don't need to be such a jerk. I have been around cars for a long time and the term "bone stock" has always meant "no modifications"

The dictionary gives the definition of "bone stock":
It means that the car is entirely stock (no aftermarket parts at all) down to its very core.

So "JUST JB4" means it is not bone stock. You might try responding without insults and cursing.

[Mik3ymomo]

Was the M3 a DCT?
The DCT cars seem to be running low 11's on a tune.

Manual cars can vary a lot due to driver.

[Newguy123]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Yes I can read and you don't need to be such a jerk. I have been around cars for a long time and the term "bone stock" has always meant "no modifications"

The dictionary gives the definition of "bone stock":
It means that the car is entirely stock (no aftermarket parts at all) down to its very core.

So "JUST JB4" means it is not bone stock. You might try responding without insults and cursing.

Where did u curse? If you knew what I meant than why make a senseless post? Anyways some of you S55 guys are so soft skinned thicken up

[Newguy123]

Originally Posted by Mik3ymomo

Was the M3 a DCT?
The DCT cars seem to be running low 11's on a tune.

Manual cars can vary a lot due to driver.

Couldn't agree more...

[/// M sa]

Numbers are from Mexico? Shit can't trust th their government how the f am I going to trust OP?

[GlobalScientist]

Why Mexico?

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Yes I can read and you don't need to be such a jerk. I have been around cars for a long time and the term "bone stock" has always meant "no modifications"

The dictionary gives the definition of "bone stock":
It means that the car is entirely stock (no aftermarket parts at all) down to its very core.

So "JUST JB4" means it is not bone stock. You might try responding without insults and cursing.

@newguy123 said "bone stock S55", not bone stock vehicle. Just saying. Perhaps you misread and assumed he meant the entire car. His major point is that we are talking a difference of 60-80whp and 70-90wtq between Map 1 running 91/93 and Map 7 running 100+/E85 blends. Just saying.

EDIT: I'm not buying it either. If you look at the video I posted against a FBO E85 GTR, it was a couple lengths (if even) and at higher speeds, the M cars begin to creep back up. A heavy V is not going to pull 5 lengths on a JB powered S55 car ever, IMO.

[jc1654M4]

Well they're both fantastic cars. Quick question, what would win between a stock cts-v and stock m4? I mean when you start tuning and modding it's not really a level playing field unless both cars are modded to the complete max and that all depends on the owners. So completely stock..... Who wins ?

[Evooooo]

My car has minimal mods no where close to fbo. Lid spacer, test pipe e85 conversion and a pulley tuned. Fully bolted they are at 700-750 whp, it would have been bus lengths if that was the case. We are both manual and I have 140+ whp on the car if not more and my car makes great power up top where the M does not. Even the best driver driver cannot make up for that significant of a power spread. Pt being it was good fun and I am just curious what the M would need to make to keep up. I cannot downgrade to something "slower" depending on how you use the car or that does not have the simple fbo capabilities to be "faster" than my previous car.

[///M ARMY]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

Where did u curse? If you knew what I meant than why make a senseless post? Anyways some of you S55 guys are so soft skinned thicken up

You better say it with your chest