I was a little premature about my initial M4 to M6 comparison

[rsr racer]

Disclaimer: all of the following driving impressions were experienced at dead of the night deserted airport roads (except for the occasional yellow taxi that only perceived me as a black blur in his moment of peripheral vision)

Initially I had said:

Handling: "....... The 6 has a big moment of inertia based on its mass and is not as apt to break away with throttle for correction and has to be thrown into it a little while staying above 3K rpm's else it will plow its way and end up tracking very wide. But the competition package is supposed to be more responsive than the base 6M; I'll report back any findings as I get more into the performance of this beast.

Throttle response: where the 4 has essentially dialed out all essence of lag and then rockets onward as one would expect; the 6 likes to take a huge gulp of air and then holding on tightly is probably a good idea. 575 hp results in a shockingly smooth and steady launch to escape velocity and its cabin quietness fools one into thinking that you're going slower than the speedo indicates. Triple digits are where this thing wants to cruise with little or no effort, seemingly hugging the road as the aerodynamics come into play......."

Well...I was sorely mistaken!!

After putting the M6 into full M mode and all nanny's in off position, I decided to have a little fun and see what this thing could do.

Holy mother F'er!! Throwing it into a relatively high speed sweeper in the numerous outer regions and relatively deserted wide and slightly cambered entry and exit clover leaf ramps of JFK airport at 3 am. (I'm a night owl and tend to play when all else is deserted for safety!); I was able to induce beautifully throttle controlled drifts and exit corrections. The mass of the 6 vs the 4 actually minimized the snap opposite reactions that I'd noticed in the 4. Slip angle corrections under the gentle prod of the gas pedal were reliably constant and reproducible.

Putting the TC back on then resulted in glued to the road handling at speeds I've exceeded only on my Ducati in full knee dragging lean.

The balance of the competition package suspension was extremely stable and the feedback was not as numb as previously thought. The signals of break away are there as in the 4, but the magnitude of the swing of the rear must be anticipated else one can get into serious trouble in a hurry.


Very impressive. I had thought this merely a gentleman's street rod, but now cannot wait to take it on the track this spring.

Sorry if this is mainly 6 related but I thought I'd share it with respect to the 4 experiences.

(Clearly I need to get back to racing very soon!)

[M6-Coupe]

LOL. and trust me this is just the beginning... have some seat time and let your body be adapted to this power and you feel more confidence, then you can't get rid of this monster

[jeff4598]

Makes me wish I could afford a 911 and go on the board with the grown ups.
And I'm not so sure the people in the taxis felt it was a good time for you to be doing that stuff. Hope the baby in the back seat slept through it ok.

[JonnyM3]

Lemme get a ride broooooooo

[Ross61]

WOW - people here do it yet chastise the one who admits it. Or people here chastises someone who drives his car at its near potential while they themselves only drive their $75K, 425 hp car at 1/4 its potential.

Some here remind me of the old farts in the Corvette and Porsche clubs. They meet on a Saturday for a drive up to the mountains and yet not one of them is willing to drive faster than 3 mph UNDER the speed limit.

No one here was with the OP when he drove that night just as no one has been with you when you did that insanely fast and stupidly unsafe acceleration onto the freeway (not your definition but the old man in Vette/Porsche who saw you). So lighten up Francis and read what the OP wrote about the comparison and and let your own subjective perception of reality go.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by rsr racer

Very impressive. I had thought this merely a gentleman's street rod, but now cannot wait to take it on the track this spring.

Sorry if this is mainly 6 related but I thought I'd share it with respect to the 4 experiences.

(Clearly I need to get back to racing very soon!)

As a performance driver, you know that you are only driving it 7-8 / 10 on the road. When you get it on track, all that blubber will reveal itself and the car will turn into a tire-eating pig.

Keep it away from the track and keep to terrorizing TSA agents around JFK. Do a pass through LaGuardia for me while your'e at it, I hate that f**king place.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

As a performance driver, you know that you are only driving it 7-8 / 10 on the road. When you get it on track, all that blubber will reveal itself and the car will turn into a tire-eating pig.

Keep it away from the track and keep to terrorizing TSA agents around JFK. Do a pass through LaGuardia for me while your'e at it, I hate that f**king place.

It's heavy but the front suspension is actually better than the M3/4's as it is an uneven A arm and builds camber well on loading . I ran my home track Roebling Road which is a constant turning technical track in my CP m6 and didn't destroy my front stock PSS tire like an M3 driver did recently and we were running the same times despite my day being 95 degrees in August .....
I was actually surprised at how well it did in the turns and I usually track a prepped Z4M track car .

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Ross61

WOW - people here do it yet chastise the one who admits it. Or people here chastises someone who drives his car at its near potential while they themselves only drive their $75K, 425 hp car at 1/4 its potential.

Some here remind me of the old farts in the Corvette and Porsche clubs. They meet on a Saturday for a drive up to the mountains and yet not one of them is willing to drive faster than 3 mph UNDER the speed limit.

No one here was with the OP when he drove that night just as no one has been with you when you did that insanely fast and stupidly unsafe acceleration onto the freeway (not your definition but the old man in Vette/Porsche who saw you). So lighten up Francis and read what the OP wrote about the comparison and and let your own subjective perception of reality go.

Where did this come from???? No one had said anything negative - not even your old farts in the Porsche and Corvette clubs. The only negative post was yours

[JonnyM3]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Where did this come from???? No one had said anything negative - not even your old farts in the Porsche and Corvette clubs. The only negative post was yours

Lmao I was wondering the same thing. Dude went off on nobody lol

[nbennettksu]

Thanks for the feedback; M6 is def a beast, and I feel like the GC is the sexiest model BMW is putting out right now.

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Where did this come from???? No one had said anything negative - not even your old farts in the Porsche and Corvette clubs. The only negative post was yours

Originally Posted by JonnyM3

Lmao I was wondering the same thing. Dude went off on nobody lol

you are a little late to the party. Someone made a couple comments about an earlier thread from OP, and the OP went bananas.

[solstice]

It's always nice when someone find "their" car. Congrats!

I think you understand though that many of us here with F8Xs don't like the size and weight of the F1Xs but they are gorgeous cars. Just not "our" type of car. Many of us have ample seat time in both. Personally my preference lies with smaller cars than the F8X not bigger but I have kids to shuttle so F80 it is .

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Where did this come from???? No one had said anything negative - not even your old farts in the Porsche and Corvette clubs. The only negative post was yours

LOL. Maybe he wants to prevent /predict since this is F8x forum and lots of comments such as " heavy, pig, big, boat, lazy,...etc" might be on the way
But seriously, M6 is a well balanced car... sometimes scary and you will be in serious trouble if you don't respect that huge torque/power , but still controllable if you pay attention to the limits and laws of physic

[karussell]

M6 is a big car but nobody told it that fact so it just goes on acting like a badass. I'm glad its in GT3. gonna be an exciting race season!

[solstice]

Originally Posted by karussell

M6 is a big car but nobody told it that fact so it just goes on acting like a badass. I'm glad its in GT3. gonna be an exciting race season!

An M6 GT3 that is ~600 lbs lighter than your regular US spec. M4 ( 2900 lbs vs. 3500 lbs )...now that's pretty badass

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by solstice

An M6 GT3 that is ~600 lbs lighter than your regular US spec. M4 ( 2900 lbs vs. 3500 lbs )...now that's pretty badass

Indeed ~700 lb with ~20% more power

[karussell]

Originally Posted by solstice

An M6 GT3 that is ~600 lbs lighter than your regular US spec. M4 ( 2900 lbs vs. 3500 lbs )...now that's pretty badass

okay now lets not go there. we shall see what the M4 GT2 is going to look like

[Maddict3]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

It's heavy but the front suspension is actually better than the M3/4's as it is an uneven A arm and builds camber well on loading . I ran my home track Roebling Road which is a constant turning technical track in my CP m6 and didn't destroy my front stock PSS tire like an M3 driver did recently and we were running the same times despite my day being 95 degrees in August .....
I was actually surprised at how well it did in the turns and I usually track a prepped Z4M track car .

Hahaha! Man I love every single one of
Your post.

They look something like this: "the M6 is better that the M4 because it has a TTV8 and it has 560hp!, the M6 is faster than the M3/M4 to 155mph! The M6 is longer than the M4!, the M6 is better than the M4! The M6 is faster!"

Hahaha the M4 wasnt made to compete with the M6, they are both fantastic cars in their own class.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Maddict3

Hahaha! Man I love every single one of
Your post.

They look something like this: "the M6 is better that the M4 because it has a TTV8 and it has 560hp!, the M6 is faster than the M3/M4 to 155mph! The M6 is longer than the M4!, the M6 is better than the M4! The M6 is faster!"

Hahaha the M4 wasnt made to compete with the M6, they are both fantastic cars in their own class.

LOL....
and you guys posts:
M6 is big, M6 is pig, M6 is Tank, M6 is heavy, M6 is barge, M6 is boat, M6 is fat ... even if M4 and M6 were at the same price point, I would pick M4... (really??)
M6 is big, M6 is pig, M6 is Tank, M6 is heavy, M6 is barge, M6 is boat,...

But I agree with you that " the M4 wasnt made to compete with the M6, they are both fantastic cars in their own class"

[Maddict3]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

LOL....
and you guys posts:
M6 is big, M6 is pig, M6 is Tank, M6 is heavy, M6 is barge, M6 is boat, M6 is fat ... even if M4 and M6 were at the same price point, I would pick M4... (really??)
M6 is big, M6 is pig, M6 is Tank, M6 is heavy, M6 is barge, M6 is boat,...

But I agree with you that " the M4 wasnt made to compete with the M6, they are both fantastic cars in their own class"

LOL

Very true, a lot of guys on here do that. I personally love the M6. Matter fact will def be getting the next gen. Or maybe even one after my M4 lease is up. Like I said they are different cars but both great.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

It's heavy but the front suspension is actually better than the M3/4's as it is an uneven A arm and builds camber well on loading . I ran my home track Roebling Road which is a constant turning technical track in my CP m6 and didn't destroy my front stock PSS tire like an M3 driver did recently and we were running the same times despite my day being 95 degrees in August .....
I was actually surprised at how well it did in the turns and I usually track a prepped Z4M track car .

[Ross61]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Where did this come from???? No one had said anything negative - not even your old farts in the Porsche and Corvette clubs. The only negative post was yours

Originally Posted by JonnyM3

Lmao I was wondering the same thing. Dude went off on nobody lol

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

LOL. Maybe he wants to prevent /predict since this is F8x forum and lots of comments such as " heavy, pig, big, boat, lazy,...etc" might be on the way

Their posts are gone.

[krnnerdboy]

M6 is pig...? :


Apologies, I couldn't resist!!! But honestly all cars are pigs when you've driven an Elise