Lease M4 or 911?

blanca333 · 10-22-2015, 11:53 PM

Looking for advice - should I lease the M4 or base 911?

I don't need any extra space or anything. I'm just looking for a car that will be fun to drive in LA. BTW, I recently sold my 2007 335i. Haven't been on the forums in a while.

Thanks.

hecho.in.626 · 10-23-2015, 12:25 AM

If you are a millennial I'd say get the M4
If you are Generation Y I'd say either one is fine
If you are Generation X I'd say get the 911

I also feel modding seems more appropriate on the M4 and not so much on the 911. Just my opinion.

blanca333 · 10-23-2015, 12:28 AM

millennial

chris719 · 10-23-2015, 01:11 AM

How does that have anything to do with it lol?

You'll have to drive both to know. The 911 is more of a true sports car, even in base form. I don't think the 911 leases very well in comparison though. You'll definitely get better value from the M4.

auf Deutsch · 10-23-2015, 05:29 AM

There's a big cost difference here. A lightly optioned M4 can lease well under $1000/mo, whereas a lightly optioned (I mean LIGHTLY, sport seats only) Cayman S will cost around $1000 (both ~$66k). A $90k+ 911 I'm guessing you're looking somewhere around $1500/mo not including scheduled maintenance either. But hey, if you got the loot....

erind · 10-23-2015, 06:04 AM

The answer is always 911

RickFLM4 · 10-23-2015, 09:24 AM

Depends on what you want but lease payment will be much better on an M4 if that matters to you. If it doesn't matter, then well-optioned 911.

CosmosMpower · 10-23-2015, 09:39 AM

If you drive mostly on the street get a M4, lots more torque and easier/more fun to drive at normal street speeds. If you do a lot of canyon runs/track get a 911. I love my GT3 but it's a terrible street car. Enjoyed every minute of the 1,200 miles I drove in Germany in my F80 M3.

ajag · 10-23-2015, 10:13 AM

Unless there is some special end of year program, P-car leases are terrible c/w BMW. I'd only lease a P-car if you can write off some or all of it, otherwise buy a lightly used one.

RickFLM4 · 10-23-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ajag

Unless there is some special end of year program, P-car leases are terrible c/w BMW. I'd only lease a P-car if you can write off some or all of it, otherwise buy a lightly used one.

Yup. If I recall the Porsche MF is a fair amount higher than the BMW MF (even if marked up by BMW dealer) and 2-year 911 residual is more like an Audi residual than BMW. I think they also limit residuals if the car is too heavily optioned. There may be a narrow window around MY changeover time when there is some factory support to move inventory off lots, but what is leftover at that point is usually sitting there for a reason (for example, less than desirable option package or color). Once that window closes it becomes more expensive to lease the older car because the residual drops a lot. (I looked into it before I got my M4 and was shocked that a MY2015 was less expensive than a leftover MY2014.)

They are tough cars to lease, particularly for daily driving, unless you have no concern about cost for whatever reason. In that case, just buy it.

omegaSMP300 · 10-23-2015, 11:45 AM

911 if the terms are good. I don't lease myself but I have looked Porsche offerings before and I couldn't imagine being okay with the low miles etc. I think the M4 lease will more miles to use and should be cheaper. Either way you'll be in a good car but I prefer the sound of the N/A flat six. Good luck!

Never Convicted · 10-23-2015, 12:29 PM

Become an RN and lease both.

kdphan · 10-23-2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Never Convicted

Become an RN and lease both.

LOL

E92LNGCGY · 10-23-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Never Convicted

Become an RN and lease both.

hahaha good one.

nicknaz · 10-23-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

There's a big cost difference here..

+1

not to mention on straight line/public roads the M3/M4 will be faster than base 911

Devilzmantis · 10-23-2015, 05:41 PM

You will get hammered leasing the Porsche. The lease rate is more than double on the Porsche.

BMW over Porsche is a no brainer when it comes to leasing.

48Laws · 10-23-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknaz

+1

not to mention on straight line/public roads the M3/M4 will be faster than base 911

Lies. Watch the Comparo.

dgp · 10-23-2015, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 48Laws

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Originally Posted by nicknaz

+1

not to mention on straight line/public roads the M3/M4 will be faster than base 911

Lies. Watch the Comparo.

48Laws · 10-23-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dgp

Internet racing is superb. Both great cars but engineering and better chassis has Porshe at an advantage. Refer to the Comparo. Cheers!

dsad1 · 10-23-2015, 07:14 PM

Last time I looked at 911 residuals they were not bad at all, they were in the low 60's,

It's also nice that porsche offers leases lower than 10k miles a year, since most people use it as a second or third car. I wish bmw did the same.

RickFLM4 · 10-23-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

Last time I looked at 911 residuals they were not bad at all, they were in the low 60's,

For 36 mos? How many miles / year?

dsad1 · 10-23-2015, 08:02 PM

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For 36 mos? How many miles / year?

I just looked through my emails. Last December carrera 4s 63% residual 30 months 10k miles. .00200 mf.

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blanca333 Private 28 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Lease M4 or 911? Looking for advice - should I lease the M4 or base 911? I don't need any extra space or anything. I'm just looking for a car that will be fun to drive in LA. BTW, I recently sold my 2007 335i. Haven't been on the forums in a while. Thanks.
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hecho.in.626 Private First Class 67 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	If you are a millennial I'd say get the M4 If you are Generation Y I'd say either one is fine If you are Generation X I'd say get the 911 I also feel modding seems more appropriate on the M4 and not so much on the 911. Just my opinion.
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chris719 Major General 7394 Rep 7,340 Posts Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	How does that have anything to do with it lol? You'll have to drive both to know. The 911 is more of a true sports car, even in base form. I don't think the 911 leases very well in comparison though. You'll definitely get better value from the M4.
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auf Deutsch Colonel 1913 Rep 2,210 Posts Drives: '17 jackrabbit on crystal meth Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Philly burbs iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	There's a big cost difference here. A lightly optioned M4 can lease well under $1000/mo, whereas a lightly optioned (I mean LIGHTLY, sport seats only) Cayman S will cost around $1000 (both ~$66k). A $90k+ 911 I'm guessing you're looking somewhere around $1500/mo not including scheduled maintenance either. But hey, if you got the loot.... __________________ 2017 BSM M2\|6MT\|Exec\|black kidneys and gills\|full alcantara wheel\|CF spoiler\|Dinan Stage 4\|Dinan COI\|Dinan free flow exhaust with resonator delete\|Fabspeed sport cat DP\|BMS clutch stop\|465 bhp\|4.75/5 stars retired: 2014 435xi\|MPPK\|335 bhp\|3/5 stars
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erind Lieutenant 624 Rep 426 Posts Drives: Ftype R, M4 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Belgium/Antwerp iTrader: (0)	The answer is always 911
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RickFLM4 Brigadier General 11003 Rep 4,824 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: PB County, FL iTrader: (0)	Depends on what you want but lease payment will be much better on an M4 if that matters to you. If it doesn't matter, then well-optioned 911. __________________ Current: 2018 SO/SS F83 ZCP Gone: 2015 SO/SO F82
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CosmosMpower Brigadier General 2052 Rep 3,714 Posts Drives: F87c, GT3, MK7 GTI Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frisco, TX iTrader: (1)	If you drive mostly on the street get a M4, lots more torque and easier/more fun to drive at normal street speeds. If you do a lot of canyon runs/track get a 911. I love my GT3 but it's a terrible street car. Enjoyed every minute of the 1,200 miles I drove in Germany in my F80 M3.
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ajag Private First Class 75 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 23 X3M C Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (0)	Unless there is some special end of year program, P-car leases are terrible c/w BMW. I'd only lease a P-car if you can write off some or all of it, otherwise buy a lightly used one. __________________ 23 X3MC \| 23 MC20 \| 21 GLS450 \| 20 Vantage
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omegaSMP300 Lieutenant 65 Rep 520 Posts Drives: Macan S, Boxster GTS, R8 V10+ Join Date: May 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	911 if the terms are good. I don't lease myself but I have looked Porsche offerings before and I couldn't imagine being okay with the low miles etc. I think the M4 lease will more miles to use and should be cheaper. Either way you'll be in a good car but I prefer the sound of the N/A flat six. Good luck! __________________ 2017 R8 V10 Plus, 2016 Boxster GTS, 2015 Macan S, 2015 V12 Vantage S - Pending Sale, 2013 911 C4S - Sold, 2012 V8 Vantage S - Sold, 2013 DB9 - Sold, 2011 997.2 Targa 4s - Sold, 2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Sold, 2013 981 Boxster S - Sold, 2006 E46 M3 - Sold, 2010 E60 M5 - Sold, 2006 E46 M3 - Sold, 2011.5 E90 M3 - Sold, 2006 325i - Sold, 2004 Mazda6 - Sold
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Never Convicted Lieutenant Colonel 1108 Rep 1,497 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charlotte NC iTrader: (0)	Become an RN and lease both.
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Devilzmantis Captain 408 Rep 732 Posts Drives: E92 M3, 991 Turbo S Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oakland, Ca iTrader: (0)	You will get hammered leasing the Porsche. The lease rate is more than double on the Porsche. BMW over Porsche is a no brainer when it comes to leasing.
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dsad1 Colonel 1212 Rep 2,404 Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Last time I looked at 911 residuals they were not bad at all, they were in the low 60's, It's also nice that porsche offers leases lower than 10k miles a year, since most people use it as a second or third car. I wish bmw did the same.
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