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      06-08-2017, 09:24 AM   #1
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Is a production week assigned by the Allocation?

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My dealer received 1/24 of the 18' M3 allocations.

They've got my ED order in, though when calling Genius and BMW NA, the system shows pretty much nothing other than my name and the dealer/SA i'm working with. I'm told this is because ordering guide/etc hasn't been released, which I understand.

However, my SA told me my car will be built the first week of September. How does he know this? I do have a production number which I believe is assigned to my allocation, but again BMW NA/Genius system barely shows anything.

So regarding my build 'week' could he have been guessing? Or does he know based on the Allocation info they were given?

I know some of the veterans on the board are tired of these questions and jus want us all to sit quiet/be pretty till things are released, but theres a reason for the question:

We really need to pick it up the week of Sept 18th. Nothing is booked yet, but due to schedules I really need this week to be the ED delivery date. Build of first week of Sept should allow for that, but the problem is we're having trouble picking a color. We had it narrowed down between Sakhir and Black. We saw a Sakhir M4 vert' at the dealer this weekend and really aren't too sure its for us. Black I typically love, but with the competition pkg I feel like it just hides too much of the lines and badges/grille blend right in... so my first love is what I presume will be Priority 1 Individual, Tanzanite Blue.

Question is, can they paint it this color and still meet my Sept 18th goal. My gut says no if my production week is the first week of September. But, if its somehow possible I wanna figure it out.
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BMWNA Ordering specialist told your dealer the estimated production date.

I would suggest that you call/email the ED department directly once the Guides are released to find out what can be done about your ED dates.

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Quick question.

My dealer received 1/24 of the 18' M3 allocations.

They've got my ED order in, though when calling Genius and BMW NA, the system shows pretty much nothing other than my name and the dealer/SA i'm working with. I'm told this is because ordering guide/etc hasn't been released, which I understand.

However, my SA told me my car will be built the first week of September. How does he know this? I do have a production number which I believe is assigned to my allocation, but again BMW NA/Genius system barely shows anything.

So regarding my build 'week' could he have been guessing? Or does he know based on the Allocation info they were given?

I know some of the veterans on the board are tired of these questions and jus want us all to sit quiet/be pretty till things are released, but theres a reason for the question:

We really need to pick it up the week of Sept 18th. Nothing is booked yet, but due to schedules I really need this week to be the ED delivery date. Build of first week of Sept should allow for that, but the problem is we're having trouble picking a color. We had it narrowed down between Sakhir and Black. We saw a Sakhir M4 vert' at the dealer this weekend and really aren't too sure its for us. Black I typically love, but with the competition pkg I feel like it just hides too much of the lines and badges/grille blend right in... so my first love is what I presume will be Priority 1 Individual, Tanzanite Blue.

Question is, can they paint it this color and still meet my Sept 18th goal. My gut says no if my production week is the first week of September. But, if its somehow possible I wanna figure it out.
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Interesting...I had heard September from my dealer as well, but no documentation or anything to support that from their end.

I would suggest talking to your dealer and ask him exactly where he was getting that information from. That being said...I would think BMW Genius would have the same info that your dealer does...so why wouldn't they be able to confirm/deny the September date we were both quoted? I don't know.

Also interesting that if these are indeed some of the first allocations (out of 24 or whatever)...why September build dates and not July?
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BMWNA Ordering specialist told your dealer the estimated production date.

I would suggest that you call/email the ED department directly once the Guides are released to find out what can be done about your ED dates.
So I called ED earlier this week. I asked about the dates I wanted and wanted to know if they were full yet (with cars other than M3s) and I was told that there was still plenty of availability but she wouldn't be able to assign anything or do anything with it until the order/sales guides are out. I understand that and realize there is nothing to be done just yet. It just got me thinking that if they know the production is happening that week, why CAN'T they reserve me the date I'd like for delivery? It is what it is, I can't ask to change the system, but It did raise my curiosity. I thought, well, perhaps the build week is a guess?

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Interesting...I had heard September from my dealer as well, but no documentation or anything to support that from their end.

I would suggest talking to your dealer and ask him exactly where he was getting that information from. That being said...I would think BMW Genius would have the same info that your dealer does...so why wouldn't they be able to confirm/deny the September date we were both quoted? I don't know.

Also interesting that if these are indeed some of the first allocations (out of 24 or whatever)...why September build dates and not July?
Well, thats my question. Why September? I mean it is what it is so long as I keep my Sept 18th preferred pickup date (but I know that's not even remotely guaranteed either). And if September is just a guess, and theres a chance it could be July, well that gives me additional weeks to work with and perhaps I can spec Tanzanite, which is what I really want.

If first week of Sept (or god forbid, later) is a solid, known build week, then selecting tanzanite and holding firm on Setp 18th, just wont work. In which case, Black it is. -- i think. lol
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I hear ya, must be frustrating trying to schedule an ED with so little information available.

Maybe the September ETAs are just a place-holder date until the pricing is released and the system is fired up. That's my hope, at least LOL. Still don't get why some of the first few trickled out allocations would have September build dates....who is getting the July ones then??? Unless it (probably) has to do with dealership and the higher priority/volume dealerships get earlier builds.
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I hear ya, must be frustrating trying to schedule an ED with so little information available.

Maybe the September ETAs are just a place-holder date until the pricing is released and the system is fired up. That's my hope, at least LOL. Still don't get why some of the first few trickled out allocations would have September build dates....who is getting the July ones then??? Unless it (probably) has to do with dealership and the higher priority/volume dealerships get earlier builds.
Well, my original thought was 24 = 6 cars a week over 4 weeks. I figured I just got one of the last of the 24 which is why I was September. But now that I see u were told Sept too I don't quite get it. My SA at the dealer is off on vacation until Monday (good for him, he deserves some time off) but it got me kinda in the dark as it's on me to figure this stuff out. The 'update' to my situation is a realization that we don't want Sakhir while we thought we did this whole time.

Honestly, it's more of a concern regarding work schedules and being able to plan the trip. If we don't get that week of September, we may need to push it to October due to conflicting things at work. Then we start to get into cooler temps which isn't ideal.
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Well, my original thought was 24 = 6 cars a week over 4 weeks. I figured I just got one of the last of the 24 which is why I was September. But now that I see u were told Sept too I don't quite get it. My SA at the dealer is off on vacation until Monday (good for him, he deserves some time off) but it got me kinda in the dark as it's on me to figure this stuff out. The 'update' to my situation is a realization that we don't want Sakhir while we thought we did this whole time.

Honestly, it's more of a concern regarding work schedules and being able to plan the trip. If we don't get that week of September, we may need to push it to October due to conflicting things at work. Then we start to get into cooler temps which isn't ideal.
mine is week 36, sept as well.
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So I just got off the phone with ED. They tell me that the build week is set as a guideline with the allocation. However, they have the ability to move the production week, if availability exists to help meet the ED date.

So, the first week of September is NOT set in stone (at least not for ED). Whether or not it can be moved up enough to accommodate a Priority 1 individual and a Sept 18th delivery date, is anyone's guess until the system is opened up and the pricing guides are released.
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The ED department works directly with BMWAG (factory) and the Welt (delivery) in obtaining your desired delivery date.

The problem that we have right now is that there are no prices officially established so no deliveries can be set yet. Remember, BMWAG only produces cars already sold. Our orders are not "sold" yet until there is a price attached to them. What we have is a production slot that can change at any time until it is "sold".

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So I just got off the phone with ED. They tell me that the build week is set as a guideline with the allocation. However, they have the ability to move the production week, if availability exists to help meet the ED date.

So, the first week of September is NOT set in stone (at least not for ED). Whether or not it can be moved up enough to accommodate a Priority 1 individual and a Sept 18th delivery date, is anyone's guess until the system is opened up and the pricing guides are released.
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What we have is a production slot that can change at any time until it is "sold".
That's encouraging.

Now is this just for ED, or what about regular allocations?
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The ED department works directly with BMWAG (factory) and the Welt (delivery) in obtaining your desired delivery date.

The problem that we have right now is that there are no prices officially established so no deliveries can be set yet. Remember, BMWAG only produces cars already sold. Our orders are not "sold" yet until there is a price attached to them. What we have is a production slot that can change at any time until it is "sold".
I would second this, or I should say I agree with this understanding.

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That's encouraging.

Now is this just for ED, or what about regular allocations?
My belief is that it is for all allocations (ED or otherwise). At least until they open the ordering/pricing guide/system.

Furthermore, my 'guess' is that they try to maintain flexibility in order to meet ED dates. So right now my build week is the first week of September, but I could in theory could be swapped with someone in July, if july becomes available, and if it helps me meet my Sept 18th date. -- This is just a guess based on the ED rep saying my build week isn't written in stone and they will try to work backwards to try to get the delivery date I want within whatever date restrictions they have.
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All factory orders.

Notice that your VIR shows "Blocked" in the price column. Once that changes to a number then things will start moving.

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That's encouraging.

Now is this just for ED, or what about regular allocations?
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All factory orders.

Notice that your VIR shows "Blocked" in the price column. Once that changes to a number then things will start moving.
My order form also shows a "block date" of 8/10/17, which I was told is the last day I can make changes? This seems to imply that maybe the September build date was correct? Or you think it's all still fluid until pricing is released?

I know...first world problems and such...
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OP, relax. It will work out. I was the same way, so I understand.

BMW will adjust your production date to meet your delivery date regardless of what allocation your dealer used.

This post explains how things went for me, but you are in a slightly different situation waiting on the release of the guides.

Sakhir by the way is a great color.
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OP, relax. It will work out. I was the same way, so I understand.

BMW will adjust your production date to meet your delivery date regardless of what allocation your dealer used.

This post explains how things went for me, but you are in a slightly different situation waiting on the release of the guides.

Sakhir by the way is a great color.
thanks bud! your link/post to your experience is helpful!
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My order form also shows a "block date" of 8/10/17, which I was told is the last day I can make changes? This seems to imply that maybe the September build date was correct? Or you think it's all still fluid until pricing is released?

I know...first world problems and such...
You can make standard changes right up until your car goes into production (status 150), after that everything is in stone. If you are contemplating any Individual choices, you want to make those as early as you can; these can delay your production and possibly past your desired delivery date if you make them to late in the process.
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Well just got a call from my dealership... and called BMW just to be 100% sure... The system accepted my build with my new Production Number... Tanzanite Blue Individual over Black extended, competition package M3 will be ready for me to picked up on a confirmed date of September 19th!!!!

Build week is scheduled for 35 (last week of August), but supposedly has the possibility of being moved up to meet the date 'if the factory deems necessary'!

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Nice news, congrats!
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Nice news, congrats!
Thanks man, crossing my fingers for you to have similar news soon too!
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Glad it has firmed up for you. I know I was relieved when mine firmed up. Now the long wait and planning begins.
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Well just got a call from my dealership... and called BMW just to be 100% sure... The system accepted my build with my new Production Number... Tanzanite Blue Individual over Black extended, competition package M3 will be ready for me to picked up on a confirmed date of September 19th!!!!

Build week is scheduled for 35 (last week of August), but supposedly has the possibility of being moved up to meet the date 'if the factory deems necessary'!

congrats! I'll be picking my m4 a few days after you and my car was already built back in may .. yes so for some unknown reason BMW built mine 4 months ahead of schedule
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