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03-28-2019, 11:11 AM | #1 |
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Is the 135i a sedan?
Hi. Does anyone know why the E82 is considered a coupe, rather than a sedan/saloon?? I know that coupe/sedan has been shorthand for 2-door/4-door for a while (although that's been changing again recently,) but the E82 seems to have all of the traits of a sedan, like the 2002, aka "The Best Sports Sedan In The World."
- 3-box design w/trunk - b pillar that supports the roof - roofline less steep than a coupe for headroom - two rows of seats What gives? Was it just a marketing thing? |
03-28-2019, 12:34 PM | #3 |
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I thought it was a little more simple than that... 4 door is a sedan, 2 door is a coupe...
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03-28-2019, 01:02 PM | #4 |
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Is/was a 4 door offered in Europe? I watched some british cop drama, it had a car that looked like mine, but had 4 doors.
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03-28-2019, 01:32 PM | #6 |
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Ugh - mid '50s Chevy nomenclature, a '2 door sedan' w/ a B-pillar AKA a 'postie' and a true hardtop, or coupe. But due to the need for body shell rigidity you wont find any true B-pillar-less coupes these days. The E82 is a Coupe with 2 + 2 seating. ;-)
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03-28-2019, 01:56 PM | #7 |
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There's an E87 1 series 4-door hatchback in Europe. Is it possible that's what you saw?
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03-28-2019, 01:58 PM | #8 |
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They called it a sedan because it had a usable back seat. The Celica was a coupe (4 seater). 911 was a coupe (4 seater). Also, the 240Z was a coupe (2 seater). What was the Scirocco (4 seater, unusable back seat) and/or Rabbit (scirocco with usable back seat)? Was one a coupe and one a sedan? Since we are cross shopping, what about the 924, Cosworth Vega, or Mustang II?
Get the 1975 issue of C&D and see what their parameters were. Until then, it is whatever you want it to be.
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03-28-2019, 03:42 PM | #12 |
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Nope. Coupe was never technically about the number of doors, although it defaulted to that for a while. We're actually seeing BMW go back now with the new "Gran Coupes."
Here's an ad calling the 2-door 320e a "sedan." Last edited by duder13; 03-28-2019 at 03:54 PM.. |
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03-28-2019, 04:20 PM | #15 |
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From Merriam-Webster (Online):
Sedan: a 2- or 4-door automobile seating four or more persons and usually having a permanent top Coupe: usually coupe : a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat |
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03-28-2019, 04:43 PM | #16 |
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Do we know the rear interior volume of the E82? According to the Society of Automotive Engineers, if it's less than 33 cubic ft., it's a coupe.
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This thread quotes Car and Driver as saying the rear seat area has a volume of................. 37 cubic ft.! We drive Sedans! Now which lawyer can we get to write us a letter so we can send it to our insurance providers and get a haircut on those premiums? Last edited by dtla1; 03-28-2019 at 04:49 PM.. Reason: Added Lawyer Joke |
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So I guess that means I have to change where it says "Drives: a turbo coupe" in my details to "Drives: a turbo sedan." Nah, I think I'll leave it. Turbo sedan doesn't have quite the same ring to it. lol
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I heard from an old timer that if a car's front door windows have a frame when the doors are open, then it's a sedan. Hence why 2 door e30 are 2 door sedans.
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