M4 2017 ZCP Pulls to the Right

Msm1984 · 05-05-2020, 05:56 PM

Hello,

I recently lowered my 17 M4 zcp on EMD springs. Car looks great and I got an alignment about 2 weeks after dropping it. I noticed before the alignment that the car would drift to the right and to make the car drive straight I needed to almost have the wheel off center to the left about 3-5 degrees.

This could have easily been an issue before putting the EMD springs in and I just didn't notice.

2 alignments later and the car still pulls.l also tried swapping front tires and if anything it is worse now. I'll post below photos of alignment results. Also, I looked up the SIB 32 01 17 issue which only seems to effect earlier models and not a 2017 car ( even though my production was 7/16 )

Any advice would be much appreciated

Ejones4541 · 05-05-2020, 09:44 PM

I had the same problems and it was a bad wheel bearing.

Msm1984 · 05-06-2020, 11:45 AM

Third alignment done. Still pulling to the right

henrylee · 05-06-2020, 01:11 PM

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Msm1984 · 05-06-2020, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

McBobby Jr · 05-06-2020, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Msm1984 · 05-06-2020, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

McBobby Jr · 05-06-2020, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Msm1984 · 05-06-2020, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Exactly I'm bringing it in tmrw to get it updated trying todrain all my e85 now and flash back to stock

McBobby Jr · 05-06-2020, 10:47 PM

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Msm1984 · 05-06-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Id still do it if that's the only reason unless the car pulls really hard. Mine only does if i have no hands kn the wheel

McBobby Jr · 05-07-2020, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Id still do it if that's the only reason unless the car pulls really hard. Mine only does if i have no hands kn the wheel

https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb...0B32%2001%2017

This a BMW document that states the Service Bulletin and what it's about, etc.

Msm1984 · 05-07-2020, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Id still do it if that's the only reason unless the car pulls really hard. Mine only does if i have no hands kn the wheel

https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb...0B32%2001%2017

This a BMW document that states the Service Bulletin and what it's about, etc.

Problem has been solved. Software was updated at BMW. Car drives straight as an arrow

McBobby Jr · 05-07-2020, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

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Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

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Originally Posted by Msm1984

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

that third alignment looks good. Must be something else.

I spoke to a couple more alignment shops and they said based off what the printouts said there is nothing they can do. The fact that everything i've done has not even made a 1% difference suggests it us software related.

My dad's M4 has this issue as well. It's had three alignments, a diff replaced. They even flashed the software and said the car is up to date on everything. Knowing my BMW dealer, they don't do jack s**t but appearently they said they'd contact BMW NA.

What tear was his

2016 ZCP. I'm pretty sure all years are effected just so you know. Your car could be a 2017 but that doesn't mean the SIB 32 01 17 is installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+

Id still do it if that's the only reason unless the car pulls really hard. Mine only does if i have no hands kn the wheel

https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb...0B32%2001%2017

This a BMW document that states the Service Bulletin and what it's about, etc.

Problem has been solved. Software was updated at BMW. Car drives straight as an arrow

Awesome, that's great to hear. What did you tell them when you took your car there. Did you just tell them about the SIB and they flashed it?

05-05-2020, 05:56 PM	#1
Msm1984 Second Lieutenant 134 Rep 247 Posts Drives: 16 M4 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Miami iTrader: (1)	M4 2017 ZCP Pulls to the Right Hello, I recently lowered my 17 M4 zcp on EMD springs. Car looks great and I got an alignment about 2 weeks after dropping it. I noticed before the alignment that the car would drift to the right and to make the car drive straight I needed to almost have the wheel off center to the left about 3-5 degrees. This could have easily been an issue before putting the EMD springs in and I just didn't notice. 2 alignments later and the car still pulls.l also tried swapping front tires and if anything it is worse now. I'll post below photos of alignment results. Also, I looked up the SIB 32 01 17 issue which only seems to effect earlier models and not a 2017 car ( even though my production was 7/16 ) Any advice would be much appreciated Attached Images __________________ 08 E92 M3 16 M4 17 M2 17 M4 ZCP 18 M4 ZCP ( Current )
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Msm1984 Second Lieutenant 134 Rep 247 Posts Drives: 16 M4 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Miami iTrader: (1)	Third alignment done. Still pulling to the right Attached Images __________________ 08 E92 M3 16 M4 17 M2 17 M4 ZCP 18 M4 ZCP ( Current )
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McBobby Jr Lieutenant 212 Rep 577 Posts Drives: '18 240i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Anchorage, AK iTrader: (0)	The only reason I haven't gone E85 or Stage 2 is because of the pull. Would want 550-600whp with this thing pulling at 150mph+ __________________ current '18 F22 240i xDrive - FBO '16 F82 M4 ZCP - FBO previous '08 E90 335i Montego Blue
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