M50D Turbo blown and white smoke :/

nellysheroes · 09-23-2021, 07:41 AM

Well looks like a turbo (which one :/)has gone on the X5 M50D. Lots of white smoke and loss of power/limp at around 30mph. Anyone else had similar and know the - already know high - cost to replace or any advice?

M50JDM · 11-21-2021, 11:53 PM

Same thing just happened to mine...limp mode...loads of white smoke out the exhaust and coming out of the engine when the oil cap was removed. Have to take off the top of the engine, remove sumo etc (removing gearbox) to see if metal fragments entered the engine. Not cheap to fix - $5K to remove everything before anything is even fixed. You'd think BMW will come to the party and cover a significant amount of the repair bill because, really, it's a pretty disastrous situation and something you would not envisage when buying an M50d.

F15GorDe · 11-22-2021, 12:49 AM

How many mi/km on both of these vehicles?

devlinsky · 11-23-2021, 06:02 AM

How do we know it's turbos, not head gasket or piston rings, for instance? How was it diagnosed?

nellysheroes · 12-08-2021, 07:24 AM

Had the BMW indi technician hook it up to a computer and that was what it was showing at the time. Only going to get the whole thing taken out and looked at once they have done a thorough inspection though to ensure it is nothing else 'a bit easier' :/. Mine is a 2015 and has done 65K.

devlinsky · 12-12-2021, 06:44 AM

Oh this sounds like fun and games for sure…

Mine is 2014 with 160k miles - touch wood, nothing serious so far…

nellysheroes · 12-13-2021, 04:41 AM

That's a good innings

Reckon a bit of WD40 and a tap of the pipe will sort mine... I wish LOL

devlinsky · 02-08-2022, 01:14 AM

Any news here?

nellysheroes · 03-14-2022, 08:50 AM

Sorry for the delay team. She is back on the road. The moral of the story is don't miss the oil service because you think you aren't driving much in COVID lockdown. We stripped the whole engine down, cleaned everything, recon on the turbo's, DPF, the works. Friends business did the work and just had a 500 mile oil change now and a few good run outs and is going beautifully. Not cheap but a brilliant car so swallow it up LOL.

MH20jy · 03-14-2022, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nellysheroes

Sorry for the delay team. She is back on the road. The moral of the story is don't miss the oil service because you think you aren't driving much in COVID lockdown. We stripped the whole engine down, cleaned everything, recon on the turbo's, DPF, the works. Friends business did the work and just had a 500 mile oil change now and a few good run outs and is going beautifully. Not cheap but a brilliant car so swallow it up LOL.

So you had a blown turbo due to less frequent engine oil change?

nellysheroes · 03-15-2022, 11:05 AM

Basically it was throwing tar through the engine is the best way of describing it. The DPF was black with oil, inlets to turbo's black amongst a list of things. We could have just tried a patch job but once it was stripped down it was best to go full out with looking at everything. Last thing we wanted was putting it all back together and it breaking down in 6 months - and then going again.

devlinsky · 03-15-2022, 05:34 PM

How often do you change oil and what oil do you use?
What's your driving routine, mostly city with lots of traffic, start-stop system active etc?
What's the mileage of the car?

nellysheroes · 03-17-2022, 09:53 AM

Usually yearly - but not this time. Castrol synthetic but they do that not me. A lot of start-stop as work and back so city driving with a lot of traffic. She is on 66K now

ooshnoo · 03-17-2022, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nellysheroes

Usually yearly - but not this time. Castrol synthetic but they do that not me. A lot of start-stop as work and back so city driving with a lot of traffic. She is on 66K now

You change your oil yearly? Oh hell no. You need to do that every 5 to 6000 miles.

devlinsky · 03-17-2022, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ooshnoo

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Originally Posted by nellysheroes

Usually yearly - but not this time. Castrol synthetic but they do that not me. A lot of start-stop as work and back so city driving with a lot of traffic. She is on 66K now

You change your oil yearly? Oh hell no. You need to do that every 5 to 6000 miles.

Yeah, no surprise here then.

I change top level LM oil with OEM filter every 6-9k miles depending on the driving routine (6k when mostly city, 9k when traveling) - "mostly yearly" is asking for very expensive problems.

Mentat · 03-31-2022, 06:18 AM

Very unhappy user here ;(
X5 f15 2014 M50d
132000 km
Loss of power, followed by engine stop.
No bang, nothing.

No errors on board.

First impression: broken turbo(s) with missing metal -> into the engine, clogged up gas cooler.
Now I gave them permission to open the engine (500 eur job), but the mechanic said to me it’s not the first car with those problems and it will cost me more than 20 000 eur to fix it

If this is the case, I’ll scrap the car…

Variante Alta · 03-31-2022, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentat

Very unhappy user here ;(
X5 f15 2014 M50d
132000 km
Loss of power, followed by engine stop.
No bang, nothing.

No errors on board.

First impression: broken turbo(s) with missing metal -> into the engine, clogged up gas cooler.
Now I gave them permission to open the engine (500 eur job), but the mechanic said to me it’s not the first car with those problems and it will cost me more than 20 000 eur to fix it

If this is the case, I’ll scrap the car…

Oh my…that does not sound good at all - sympathies. Out of interest (and without any judgement whatsoever) what sort of oil change interval have you been on? What type of oil? I've been doing mine at about 7,500 kms, partly because I pull a travel trailer sometimes with my 35d and partly because this sort of outcome scares the crap out me!

.

Hope the outcome is better than you fear!

Mentat · 03-31-2022, 08:33 AM

Oil does not really count in this matter.
I have 10 years free oil and filter change from bmw.
I’ve just talked with my bmw dealer and is sad.

The small turbo exploded, damaging the other two turbos.
Oil in the intercooler and in the “catalyst”.

The damage is about 16000 eur for now

Another 2000 euro to open the engine, to check cilinder 5&6
If the cylinders are shot, I need a new engine.

So is very close to scrap.

Variante Alta · 03-31-2022, 04:58 PM

Understood - from my experience, the BMW maintenance routine is simply insufficient for these engines long term - I think you'll find many people on this forum are doing oil changes far more than what's specified (among other things). In any case, that's a real disaster for you - seriously sorry to hear that. On the positive side, maybe BMW (Europe?) might be willing to help you by sharing the costs if you push hard enough…the car itself can go another 136,000 kms with a new or rebuilt engine, no problem.

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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	M50D Turbo blown and white smoke :/ Well looks like a turbo (which one :/)has gone on the X5 M50D. Lots of white smoke and loss of power/limp at around 30mph. Anyone else had similar and know the - already know high - cost to replace or any advice?
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M50JDM Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW X5M50d Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: VIC iTrader: (0)	M50D Turbo Blown Same thing just happened to mine...limp mode...loads of white smoke out the exhaust and coming out of the engine when the oil cap was removed. Have to take off the top of the engine, remove sumo etc (removing gearbox) to see if metal fragments entered the engine. Not cheap to fix - $5K to remove everything before anything is even fixed. You'd think BMW will come to the party and cover a significant amount of the repair bill because, really, it's a pretty disastrous situation and something you would not envisage when buying an M50d.
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devlinsky Lieutenant 369 Rep 364 Posts Drives: F15 M50d / ex E90 335i / Panda Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Other side of the pond iTrader: (0)	How do we know it's turbos, not head gasket or piston rings, for instance? How was it diagnosed?
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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Had the BMW indi technician hook it up to a computer and that was what it was showing at the time. Only going to get the whole thing taken out and looked at once they have done a thorough inspection though to ensure it is nothing else 'a bit easier' :/. Mine is a 2015 and has done 65K.
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devlinsky Lieutenant 369 Rep 364 Posts Drives: F15 M50d / ex E90 335i / Panda Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Other side of the pond iTrader: (0)	Oh this sounds like fun and games for sure… Mine is 2014 with 160k miles - touch wood, nothing serious so far…
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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	That's a good innings Reckon a bit of WD40 and a tap of the pipe will sort mine... I wish LOL
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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Sorry for the delay team. She is back on the road. The moral of the story is don't miss the oil service because you think you aren't driving much in COVID lockdown. We stripped the whole engine down, cleaned everything, recon on the turbo's, DPF, the works. Friends business did the work and just had a 500 mile oil change now and a few good run outs and is going beautifully. Not cheap but a brilliant car so swallow it up LOL.
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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Basically it was throwing tar through the engine is the best way of describing it. The DPF was black with oil, inlets to turbo's black amongst a list of things. We could have just tried a patch job but once it was stripped down it was best to go full out with looking at everything. Last thing we wanted was putting it all back together and it breaking down in 6 months - and then going again.
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devlinsky Lieutenant 369 Rep 364 Posts Drives: F15 M50d / ex E90 335i / Panda Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Other side of the pond iTrader: (0)	How often do you change oil and what oil do you use? What's your driving routine, mostly city with lots of traffic, start-stop system active etc? What's the mileage of the car?
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nellysheroes New Member 1 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMX X5 M50D F15 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Usually yearly - but not this time. Castrol synthetic but they do that not me. A lot of start-stop as work and back so city driving with a lot of traffic. She is on 66K now
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Mentat Private 27 Rep 81 Posts Drives: BMW X5 F15 M50d Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bucharest, Romania iTrader: (0)	Very unhappy user here ;( X5 f15 2014 M50d 132000 km Loss of power, followed by engine stop. No bang, nothing. No errors on board. First impression: broken turbo(s) with missing metal -> into the engine, clogged up gas cooler. Now I gave them permission to open the engine (500 eur job), but the mechanic said to me it’s not the first car with those problems and it will cost me more than 20 000 eur to fix it If this is the case, I’ll scrap the car…
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Mentat Private 27 Rep 81 Posts Drives: BMW X5 F15 M50d Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bucharest, Romania iTrader: (0)	Oil does not really count in this matter. I have 10 years free oil and filter change from bmw. I’ve just talked with my bmw dealer and is sad. The small turbo exploded, damaging the other two turbos. Oil in the intercooler and in the “catalyst”. The damage is about 16000 eur for now Another 2000 euro to open the engine, to check cilinder 5&6 If the cylinders are shot, I need a new engine. So is very close to scrap.
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Variante Alta Second Lieutenant 96 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2015 X5d M Sport Metallic Whit Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Woodstock, Ontario iTrader: (2)	Understood - from my experience, the BMW maintenance routine is simply insufficient for these engines long term - I think you'll find many people on this forum are doing oil changes far more than what's specified (among other things). In any case, that's a real disaster for you - seriously sorry to hear that. On the positive side, maybe BMW (Europe?) might be willing to help you by sharing the costs if you push hard enough…the car itself can go another 136,000 kms with a new or rebuilt engine, no problem.
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