Window gremlins

Guran · 05-10-2010, 10:11 PM

I've been getting increasingly frustrated with the windows on my 135i Coupe (no iDrive). The damned things seem to have a mind of their own. Sometimes when I unlock the car and pull on the door handle, the window will half open. Fine, sometimes that's a good thing. But it'd be nice to disable it when it's raining! Then when I get in the car, put the key in the ignition and try to close the window, it'll go up a bit then stop and return to the half open position. Repeat it again, and the same thing happens. Eventually it closes properly, but only after profanity is uttered. And the same thing doesn't happen every time either. The bloody thing is so infuriating. Yes, I did RTFM and that didn't provide any fix.

Is anyone else having this sort of experience? I'm almost hoping I've got some sort of fault in the programming of the windows because at least that can be fixed!

Taymaishu · 05-10-2010, 10:13 PM

Hey Bryan,

CONSTANTLY having this issue with the 125i. It is really frustrating too.

I'll often get home, lock the car, go to sleep, wake up in the morning and they'll already be half down.

Other times i'll unlock the car and they'll go half down when i open the door (as you say, in the rain it's bloody annoying).

I have no idea what causes it (someone mentioned to me something about pressing the unlock button twice - all doors - makes them drop upon opening). However, what the hell about locking my car and they go down? That's a terrible security issue i have to deal with

nvanorten · 05-10-2010, 10:21 PM

I had the same issue, and BMW kept my car for four days to fix it. They ended up replacing some of the components of the driver's side electric window.

Zuzu · 05-10-2010, 10:53 PM

I think the windows return to the last fixed position at time of ignition kill.

For example...Window in down position at time of engine shut down..Then closing of the window without opening doors whilst engine and ignition shut down..

THEN on re opening the car, the said window returns to the last fixed position..

Taymaishu · 05-10-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

I think the windows return to the last fixed position at time of ignition kill.

For example...Window in down position at time of engine shut down..Then closing of the window without opening doors whilst engine and ignition shut down..

THEN on re opening the car, the said window returns to the last fixed position..

Ahhh i see - will go play around with the windows now and see how it goes

So from what i gather Joe;
1. Turn car off with windows half down
2. Get out, lock car, use key fob to wind up windows as you walk away
3. Return to car, open car, windows go to halfway down again.

I think that's what you're saying?

Zuzu · 05-10-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taymaishu

Ahhh i see - will go play around with the windows now and see how it goes

So from what i gather Joe;
1. Turn car off with windows half down
2. Get out, lock car, use key fob to wind up windows as you walk away
3. Return to car, open car, windows go to halfway down again.

I think that's what you're saying?

Correct Alex..More even, closing the windows whilst still seated in the car with ignition off..

You can still close windows with ignition off until you open a door.

MikeVictor · 05-11-2010, 02:26 AM

I thought it you double-click the unlock on the fob, the windows will crack down halfway when you open the door? Will check on my way to the car tonight...

TimMc · 05-11-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mattyv

I thought it you double-click the unlock on the fob, the windows will crack down halfway when you open the door? Will check on my way to the car tonight...

They do!

sparoz · 05-11-2010, 02:45 AM

Can't you turn it off? I am pretty sure there's an option to turn that off on the iDrive, so I would assume there's a way of turning it off without one?

Guran · 05-11-2010, 04:35 AM

Thanks for the suggestion Joe. However I have never locked the doors with the windows half closed. Always lock with the windows up fully. I've searched the manual and the car settings via the dash display, can't find any fix there either. If I can't figure it out, I'll be asking to get it looked at during my next service.

nvanorten · 05-11-2010, 05:21 AM

The window issue that you have described is not influenced by the user. It is a problem with the sensor / motor that detects something getting caught as the window winds up. As mentioned earlier BMW replaced certain parts on my driver's side door and I no longer suffer the issue.

Zuzu · 05-11-2010, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Guran

Thanks for the suggestion Joe. However I have never locked the doors with the windows half closed. Always lock with the windows up fully.

Sorry Bryan.. What I meant was turning off the ignition while you are still seated in the car with the window half closed. Then before opening the door to exit, you close the windows while the ignition is still switched off.

123D-M · 05-11-2010, 07:13 AM

The windows shouldn't take any notice of what position they were in when you turned off the car. If you put them up, even after turning off the car, they should stay up.

The ability to click unlock twice and have the windows slide halfway down when you open the door is a feature to make ingress easier in tight parking spaces. When you close the door the window goes back up.

Holding the unlock button will put the windows down. Holding the lock button will put the windows up (in all markets except US I think - blame lawsuits).

Again, there should be no spontaneous window-movement except in the double-click case and the usual crack down and up when you open the door. It sounds like the OP has a fault.

BMWRX · 05-11-2010, 03:50 PM

I'm not having an issue with the windows going up or down, however, I do have a very defined, thin scratch on both the driver's and passenger's windows that runs up the length of the rear edge. It almost looks like something within the door is scratching it.

Guran · 05-11-2010, 04:26 PM

Definitely sounds like I've got a fault with the window obstruction sensor. Will get it sorted by SA. Thanks!

chylld · 05-11-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sparoz

Can't you turn it off? I am pretty sure there's an option to turn that off on the iDrive, so I would assume there's a way of turning it off without one?

Yes in iDrive you can turn the half-down function off by setting one of the door/window lock/unlock settings to NOT "convenience". I think the idea is that it's easier to get into the car if the window is half-down and you're in a really tight space. I'm sure there's a way to set it without iDrive too...

As for the window going back down, that just sounds like a botched obstruction sensor as Guran suggested.

Zuzu · 05-11-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Guran

Definitely sounds like I've got a fault with the window obstruction sensor. Will get it sorted by SA. Thanks!

Well...My windows def behave the way I mentioned..

Either its a vert setting or I will be visiting the dealer aswell...

CeeJay · 05-12-2010, 01:32 AM

Have the same problem as Guran.
Hopefully will be fixed now its at the dealers to get the fuel pump,rear light and wiper washers looked at as well....

cozza · 05-13-2010, 02:40 AM

You can fix this yourself using iDrive - Settings, Vehicle and Tyres, Door Locks. Select anything other than "Convenience" and you will no longer have the windows wind down when you double-click the unlock button on your remote.

Taymaishu · 05-13-2010, 03:21 AM

Looks like i'm off to the dealer too :/

05-10-2010, 10:11 PM	#1
Guran Captain 24 Rep 895 Posts Drives: 08 135i Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wollongong, Australia iTrader: (0)	Window gremlins I've been getting increasingly frustrated with the windows on my 135i Coupe (no iDrive). The damned things seem to have a mind of their own. Sometimes when I unlock the car and pull on the door handle, the window will half open. Fine, sometimes that's a good thing. But it'd be nice to disable it when it's raining! Then when I get in the car, put the key in the ignition and try to close the window, it'll go up a bit then stop and return to the half open position. Repeat it again, and the same thing happens. Eventually it closes properly, but only after profanity is uttered. And the same thing doesn't happen every time either. The bloody thing is so infuriating. Yes, I did RTFM and that didn't provide any fix. Is anyone else having this sort of experience? I'm almost hoping I've got some sort of fault in the programming of the windows because at least that can be fixed! __________________ 08 BMW 135i Sport Coupe \| Manual \| Sparkling Graphite \| Coral Red Boston Leather \| 10 Speaker Hi Fi
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Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	Hey Bryan, CONSTANTLY having this issue with the 125i. It is really frustrating too. I'll often get home, lock the car, go to sleep, wake up in the morning and they'll already be half down. Other times i'll unlock the car and they'll go half down when i open the door (as you say, in the rain it's bloody annoying). I have no idea what causes it (someone mentioned to me something about pressing the unlock button twice - all doors - makes them drop upon opening). However, what the hell about locking my car and they go down? That's a terrible security issue i have to deal with
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nvanorten Enlisted Member 1 Rep 35 Posts Drives: BMW m140 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	I had the same issue, and BMW kept my car for four days to fix it. They ended up replacing some of the components of the driver's side electric window.
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Zuzu Major General 2827 Rep 7,642 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	I think the windows return to the last fixed position at time of ignition kill. For example...Window in down position at time of engine shut down..Then closing of the window without opening doors whilst engine and ignition shut down.. THEN on re opening the car, the said window returns to the last fixed position..
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05-11-2010, 04:35 AM	#10
Guran Captain 24 Rep 895 Posts Drives: 08 135i Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wollongong, Australia iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the suggestion Joe. However I have never locked the doors with the windows half closed. Always lock with the windows up fully. I've searched the manual and the car settings via the dash display, can't find any fix there either. If I can't figure it out, I'll be asking to get it looked at during my next service. __________________ 08 BMW 135i Sport Coupe \| Manual \| Sparkling Graphite \| Coral Red Boston Leather \| 10 Speaker Hi Fi
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05-11-2010, 05:21 AM	#11
nvanorten Enlisted Member 1 Rep 35 Posts Drives: BMW m140 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	The window issue that you have described is not influenced by the user. It is a problem with the sensor / motor that detects something getting caught as the window winds up. As mentioned earlier BMW replaced certain parts on my driver's side door and I no longer suffer the issue.
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Guran Captain 24 Rep 895 Posts Drives: 08 135i Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wollongong, Australia iTrader: (0)	Definitely sounds like I've got a fault with the window obstruction sensor. Will get it sorted by SA. Thanks! __________________ 08 BMW 135i Sport Coupe \| Manual \| Sparkling Graphite \| Coral Red Boston Leather \| 10 Speaker Hi Fi
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CeeJay Private 0 Rep 76 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	Have the same problem as Guran. Hopefully will be fixed now its at the dealers to get the fuel pump,rear light and wiper washers looked at as well....
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cozza ///Mthusiast 138 Rep 1,751 Posts Drives: M135i (March delivery) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	You can fix this yourself using iDrive - Settings, Vehicle and Tyres, Door Locks. Select anything other than "Convenience" and you will no longer have the windows wind down when you double-click the unlock button on your remote. __________________ ///M135i: AUTO \| ALPINE WHITE \| CORAL RED LEATHER \| HEATED SEATS \| SUNROOF \| NAV \| DAB TUNER \| HARMAN KARDON \| PERFORMANCE BITS 'N' PIECES
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Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	Looks like i'm off to the dealer too :/
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