Planning my European Delivery!

amitv85 · 03-29-2011, 01:06 PM

Hey Guys,

So just got my production # and pick-up date for my M3 coupe from Ryan!

This is an itinerary I thought about - let me know if you think it sounds like enough time and if there is anything you suggest seeing on the way. I will be traveling with my girlfriend and we would be interested in seeing a concentration camp if there is one along or close to our route.

Flight Arrives in Munich: June 9, 2011
Pick-Up @ BMW Welt: June 9, 2011

June 9 - Thursday
BMW Factory Tour, Pick-Up Car, Sight-See in Munich

June 10 - Friday
Sight-See in Munich, Drive to Frankfurt

June 11 - Saturday
Sight-See in Frankfurt

June 12 - Sunday
Sight-See in Frankfurt. Early Afternoon - Leave for Nurburgring (2 hr drive) drive the evening session for 4 laps (maybe ring taxi?), return that evening to Frankfurt. (or stay for night, drive to luxembourg next day)

June 13 - Monday
Drop car off to location by Airport?. Train (drive?) to Luxembourg from Airport. - See old college friend who recently moved here...sight-see, go out. Stay for the night

June 14, Tuesday to June 18th, Saturday
Train (drive?) to Paris. Sight-see, relax, and enjoy the last few days without jumping from city to city. Fly back to NY Saturday morning/afternoon

We have room to take 1-2 days away from paris if there is something good to see along the way. We are city people and although scenic small towns etc are nice, we get bored easily so we were mainly doing major cities unless there is something worth seeing along the way (We travel often and plan on coming back to these areas down the road for more indepth tour)

My dilemma is if I want to leave the car in frankfurt for faster delivery or drop it off at the end of the trip in paris...thoughts?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

Google Map if I drove the whole trip: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...18&ie=UTF8&z=6

Its_Canuck · 03-29-2011, 02:18 PM

Um. You do realize that the "ring" is about 390km NW of the city of Nuremberg. If not, that's a good drive away with sight seeing for one day.

Its_Canuck · 03-29-2011, 02:19 PM

I say this because I'm planning a trip around the US Thanksgiving holiday.

amitv85 · 03-29-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Its_Canuck

Um. You do realize that the "ring" is about 390km NW of the city of Nuremberg. If not, that's a good drive away with sight seeing for one day.

Thanks, my mistake. I probably realized this earlier but between running around trying to get a deal for my m3 and then going back and forth on our itinerary with my gf I messed up somewhere lol.

I'll correct this...will look into stopping at Nuremburg for the day before driving to Frankfurt...then off the Nurburgring for 4 laps. Just wish I didnt have to back track. I wanted to drop the car in Frankfurt or Munich as I hear the travel time back to the states in faster

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Crazy Bimmer · 03-29-2011, 02:39 PM

You going to fly in the same day as picking up the car?

You might be jet lagged. Plus I would give yourself a day buffer, what if the flight is delayed somehow.

I flew in on the 19th, did the factory tour and museum, then had a good nights rest and picked up the car at the welt on the 20th.

jwg133 · 03-29-2011, 03:17 PM

I just got back from my ED trip 2 weeks ago. Regarding your request to visit a concentration camp, Dachau is about 20min drive from the Welt. here is the link to the official site:

http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html

give yourself at least 2-3 hours if you really want to take in the full site. There are many many things to see, read, and just take in.

Happy to share other experiences you may be interested in. We spend the entire time in Munich - at a very nice hotel. spent a day exploring the city - marienplatz, odeonsplatz, hofbrauhous, etc...

Enjoy!!

J

vm · 03-29-2011, 07:16 PM

Regarding the Nurburring I think that your car will be too green to take it in there. I wouldnt. I am not sure about the Ring Taxi but I thought that you need to reserve almost a year in advance. The rest of your itinerary looks good. I would drive to Paris and leave the car the first day you are there regardless of delays in delivery.

amitv85 · 03-29-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vm

Regarding the Nurburring I think that your car will be too green to take it in there. I wouldnt. I am not sure about the Ring Taxi but I thought that you need to reserve almost a year in advance. The rest of your itinerary looks good. I would drive to Paris and leave the car the first day you are there regardless of delays in delivery.

What do you mean by "green"?

Ring Taxi site says tickets go on sale mid-april so I am hoping to pick them up within next couple weeks if possible.

SlamMan · 03-30-2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer

You might be jet lagged. Plus I would give yourself a day buffer, what if the flight is delayed somehow.

I agree with with this. I picked up my car the day after flying in. Maybe jet lag isn't as bad for you but I was pretty burned out for the first couple days before adjusting to the time change and travel. I think you'll definitely enjoy the experience more after having a good night of sleep in your hotel.

amitv85 · 03-30-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SlamMan

I agree with with this. I picked up my car the day after flying in. Maybe jet lag isn't as bad for you but I was pretty burned out for the first couple days before adjusting to the time change and travel. I think you'll definitely enjoy the experience more after having a good night of sleep in your hotel.

I'm sure it might be more enjoyable after adjusting. I travel often internationally so I am somewhat use to it and can adjust. I just hope my girlfriend feels the same way or I will let her go to the hotel to check in. I am debating traveling a day earlier (travel on my birthday) but not sure if I want to take more time off from my business as I am away the previous weekend for bachelor party

Thanks for suggestions, I'll def consider it.

vm · 03-30-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by amitv85

What do you mean by "green"?

I mean that during the break-in period (which is the first 1,200 miles) you are not supposed to go above 4,500 RPM's or 100 MPH.

VictorH · 03-30-2011, 06:42 PM

Having done a similar trip I would suggest [U]not[U] driving to Paris. Excellent high-speed train service is available that will get you right down town and Paris is made for walking. In addition, parking in Paris is a pain in the neck and anything decent underground will run you $30-50 per day.

I don't see why you couldn't run the N-ring. I went up and down 5 mountain passes prior to 1200 miles, just no revs over 5,000 or whatever the window sticker says and no speed over 100 mph, you can still have plenty of fun with those limits.

amitv85 · 03-30-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VictorH

Having done a similar trip I would suggest [U]not[U] driving to Paris. Excellent high-speed train service is available that will get you right down town and Paris is made for walking. In addition, parking in Paris is a pain in the neck and anything decent underground will run you $30-50 per day.

I don't see why you couldn't run the N-ring. I went up and down 5 mountain passes prior to 1200 miles, just no revs over 5,000 or whatever the window sticker says and no speed over 100 mph, you can still have plenty of fun with those limits.

I dont plan on driving IN paris, I'll drop the car off to transport co. at airport as soon as we get there so we dont have to deal with any hassles and it has a few day lead-time for delivery.

I decided to drive after Frankfurt so I do not have to back-track from Nurburg to return car to Frankfurt and driving to Luxembourg is actually faster than taking the train from Frankfurt...this way I can stop by Trier, Germany and Reims, France along the way.

This may sound bad, but I probably wont obey the 1200 mile break-in to a T. It will probably be too tempting for me and I'm not *too* worried. I know myself and self-control/patience aren't my strong traits (which is probably why I jumped on this car now)

piloto · 03-31-2011, 01:38 AM

If driving from Frankfurt to Paris, definitely try and stay off of the main highways if you want a fun drive. Otherwise it's going to be a boring 4-5 hours. I did this drive last December, and it wasn't fun. I'm certain that if you exit the highway often and take back roads whereever possible, you'll enjoy it a lot more.

phlfly · 04-02-2011, 01:28 PM

Of course you must visit Rothenburg, but watch out, a lot stores with Christmas stuff. Also from there I would go to Salzburg. A very nice town and beautiful mount lakes.

Enjoy.

tlp · 04-06-2011, 11:00 PM

Give yourself a little bit of time to visit the BMW Museum when you are at Welt. When I did ED Welt/Factory Tour/Museum last week it took about 3/4 of a day.

amitv85 · 04-15-2011, 07:41 AM

Ring Taxi Site still says "From mid-April 2011 you will get the chance to book BMW Ring-Taxi tickets and dates on this website again."

well its mid april!!! I'm getting nervous and jittery. Am I better off calling them to try and get a ticket for June 2011? I have my ED scheduled, my hotel booked and know the date I will be at The Ring!

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amitv85 Private 7 Rep 99 Posts Drives: E430 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Planning my European Delivery! - Any suggestions welcome! Hey Guys, So just got my production # and pick-up date for my M3 coupe from Ryan! This is an itinerary I thought about - let me know if you think it sounds like enough time and if there is anything you suggest seeing on the way. I will be traveling with my girlfriend and we would be interested in seeing a concentration camp if there is one along or close to our route. Flight Arrives in Munich: June 9, 2011 Pick-Up @ BMW Welt: June 9, 2011 June 9 - Thursday BMW Factory Tour, Pick-Up Car, Sight-See in Munich June 10 - Friday Sight-See in Munich, Drive to Frankfurt June 11 - Saturday Sight-See in Frankfurt June 12 - Sunday Sight-See in Frankfurt. Early Afternoon - Leave for Nurburgring (2 hr drive) drive the evening session for 4 laps (maybe ring taxi?), return that evening to Frankfurt. (or stay for night, drive to luxembourg next day) June 13 - Monday Drop car off to location by Airport?. Train (drive?) to Luxembourg from Airport. - See old college friend who recently moved here...sight-see, go out. Stay for the night June 14, Tuesday to June 18th, Saturday Train (drive?) to Paris. Sight-see, relax, and enjoy the last few days without jumping from city to city. Fly back to NY Saturday morning/afternoon We have room to take 1-2 days away from paris if there is something good to see along the way. We are city people and although scenic small towns etc are nice, we get bored easily so we were mainly doing major cities unless there is something worth seeing along the way (We travel often and plan on coming back to these areas down the road for more indepth tour) My dilemma is if I want to leave the car in frankfurt for faster delivery or drop it off at the end of the trip in paris...thoughts? THANKS IN ADVANCE!!! Google Map if I drove the whole trip: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...18&ie=UTF8&z=6 Last edited by amitv85; 03-29-2011 at 03:45 PM..
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Its_Canuck New Member 0 Rep 19 Posts Drives: VW R32 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	Um. You do realize that the "ring" is about 390km NW of the city of Nuremberg. If not, that's a good drive away with sight seeing for one day.
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jwg133 it's my dog 7 Rep 128 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 (ordered) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NOVA iTrader: (0)	I just got back from my ED trip 2 weeks ago. Regarding your request to visit a concentration camp, Dachau is about 20min drive from the Welt. here is the link to the official site: http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html give yourself at least 2-3 hours if you really want to take in the full site. There are many many things to see, read, and just take in. Happy to share other experiences you may be interested in. We spend the entire time in Munich - at a very nice hotel. spent a day exploring the city - marienplatz, odeonsplatz, hofbrauhous, etc... Enjoy!! J
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vm Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 239 Posts Drives: 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (5)	Regarding the Nurburring I think that your car will be too green to take it in there. I wouldnt. I am not sure about the Ring Taxi but I thought that you need to reserve almost a year in advance. The rest of your itinerary looks good. I would drive to Paris and leave the car the first day you are there regardless of delays in delivery.
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VictorH Major 433 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: '09 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SC iTrader: (4)	Having done a similar trip I would suggest [U]not[U] driving to Paris. Excellent high-speed train service is available that will get you right down town and Paris is made for walking. In addition, parking in Paris is a pain in the neck and anything decent underground will run you $30-50 per day. I don't see why you couldn't run the N-ring. I went up and down 5 mountain passes prior to 1200 miles, just no revs over 5,000 or whatever the window sticker says and no speed over 100 mph, you can still have plenty of fun with those limits.
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piloto Captain 29 Rep 843 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	If driving from Frankfurt to Paris, definitely try and stay off of the main highways if you want a fun drive. Otherwise it's going to be a boring 4-5 hours. I did this drive last December, and it wasn't fun. I'm certain that if you exit the highway often and take back roads whereever possible, you'll enjoy it a lot more.
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phlfly New Member 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2005 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Leesburg VA iTrader: (0)	Of course you must visit Rothenburg, but watch out, a lot stores with Christmas stuff. Also from there I would go to Salzburg. A very nice town and beautiful mount lakes. Enjoy.
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amitv85 Private 7 Rep 99 Posts Drives: E430 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Ring Taxi Site still says "From mid-April 2011 you will get the chance to book BMW Ring-Taxi tickets and dates on this website again." well its mid april!!! I'm getting nervous and jittery. Am I better off calling them to try and get a ticket for June 2011? I have my ED scheduled, my hotel booked and know the date I will be at The Ring!
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