1M Fair Deal in California?

BasicMarinWheels · 06-05-2011, 10:07 PM

What is currently a fair deal for a 1M in California? MSRP? I'm talking to my dealer about putting down a deposit, but we haven't settled on a price. What is fair? I'm in Northern California but could easily go anywhere in California to pick it up.

Please let me know, and feel free to PM if you want your deal to remain confidential, etc.

Thanks

cooler2442 · 06-05-2011, 10:21 PM

According to the posts here, MSRP.

miiipilot · 06-05-2011, 10:24 PM

I'd say MSRP is fair at this point. Especially reading that the 1///M is one and done.

I'm surprised, after reading that, more dealers aren't jacking up the mark-ups.

miiipilot

1VOM · 06-05-2011, 10:24 PM

If you can get the car out there for msrp you did well. It depends when your allocation would be but if you are trying to get one sooner than later your probably going to be looking at markups of 2500+ in that market.

!mspinster · 06-05-2011, 11:16 PM

I spoken to some dealers in Cali and some are selling their allocations for $5000 markup. Most allocations are spoken for don't know if they are at MSRP or not, but if you can get it at MSRP jump on it. Make sure you can get an allocation, I believe some of these dealers just want your deposit. There can be 10 deposits for only just two allocation. Putting a deposit does not guarantee the car.

Papethova · 06-05-2011, 11:25 PM

I noticed many dealers in So Cal are speccing the cars for themselves and trying to sell them out of the showroom when they arrive (1st come 1st serve no waiting list Ipad style). Thats part of the reason why allocations are harder to come by right now.

If you wait and the demand doesnt work in the dealerships favor you can buy one of those at or below MSRP. Depending how demand for off the lot cars turns out.

I wouldnt be surprised if some of these are heavily discounted at years end because they just sat in the showroom. Its a gamble though.

DooBs · 06-06-2011, 03:17 AM

Back when i was calling around no one said MSRP like they used to early before some dealers even heard if they were getting 1M. Last i heard some where going 10K over and some just 5K.

if you find MSRP JUMP ON IT. I wouldn't expect any under. At least thats what it seems for SoCal.
Why not try out of state and getting it shipped or road tripping.. if you have the time

spiderz17 · 06-06-2011, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DooBs

if you find MSRP JUMP ON IT. I wouldn't expect any under. At least thats what it seems for SoCal.

MSRP is a fair deal as defined by BMW. Anything over, and according to BMW, you're overpaying. But how badly do you want the car? It's all about risk vs reward. Is it worth trying to save $2500-5000 and risk not getting one?

Wild Bill · 06-06-2011, 09:26 AM

Of the three cars I know of delivered in the first week of delivery (May 7-14) here in Orange county CA, I believe they were all MSRP or below.

WB

BasicMarinWheels · 06-06-2011, 11:46 PM

Thanks for the input. I'll let you know how it turns out.

cooler2442 · 06-06-2011, 11:51 PM

Looks like dealers on truecar are letting them go for under MSRP now which most likely means you can place an order and get on the list, but who knows when you will get one.

TrueCar Certified Dealer

25.1 miles from Woodland Hills, CA
$46,015 Save $995 off Sticker
TrueCar Certified Dealer

34.5 miles from Woodland Hills, CA

Best Local Price
$45,920 Save $1,090 off Sticker
TrueCar Certified Dealer

53.3 miles from Woodland Hills, CA
$46,520 Save $490 off Sticker

stylinexpat · 07-14-2011, 02:18 PM

Any BMW dealer in Southern California have them in stock now at MSRP?

BasicMarinWheels · 07-14-2011, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylinexpat

Any BMW dealer in Southern California have them in stock now at MSRP?

Or in Northern California?

kellzir · 07-14-2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasicMarinWheels

Or in Northern California?

I'm am also interested if any norcal dealers have any open allocations at msrp.

UnclePerkins · 07-14-2011, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooler2442

Looks like dealers on truecar are letting them go for under MSRP now which most likely means you can place an order and get on the list, but who knows when you will get one.

TrueCar Certified Dealer

25.1 miles from Woodland Hills, CA
$46,015 Save $995 off Sticker
TrueCar Certified Dealer

34.5 miles from Woodland Hills, CA

Best Local Price
$45,920 Save $1,090 off Sticker
TrueCar Certified Dealer

53.3 miles from Woodland Hills, CA
$46,520 Save $490 off Sticker

I'd be very interested in hearing if the TrueCar data pans out. These prices seem way out of wack for what others are seeing in California (especially, Southern California).

ace330i · 07-14-2011, 04:14 PM

I just saw a 1 M at Pacific bmw glendale they wanted 54k for the car plus 40k dealer markup!!!, totaled at 94k together lol

mPlasticDesign · 07-14-2011, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellzir

I'm am also interested if any norcal dealers have any open allocations at msrp.

I got one months ago, don't know about currently. The few places I spoke with had a few people deep waiting list with deposits.

stylinexpat · 07-14-2011, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace330i

I just saw a 1 M at Pacific bmw glendale they wanted 54k for the car plus 40k dealer markup!!!, totaled at 94k together lol

He is smoking crack. I am looking for one at MSRP.

DooBs · 07-14-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylinexpat

He is smoking crack. I am looking for one at MSRP.

Just dropped by Pacific BMW to check out the VO.
The guy said and i quote "its negotiable, not set in stone, but its a collectors car so it'll be hard to find one with anything below 30K mark up"
hahahahhaa

ace330i · 07-14-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DooBs

Just dropped by Pacific BMW to check out the VO.
The guy said and i quote "its negotiable, not set in stone, but its a collectors car so it'll be hard to find one with anything below 30K mark up"
hahahahhaa

These people are on something lol, I remember when my dad went to buy an s63 they had a 70k markup lmao

stylinexpat · 07-14-2011, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DooBs

Just dropped by Pacific BMW to check out the VO.
The guy said and i quote "its negotiable, not set in stone, but its a collectors car so it'll be hard to find one with anything below 30K mark up"
hahahahhaa

BMW in Germany gave it a MSRP and that is what it should sell for including the dealership profit. Asking for more money and they are ripping the customer off and gouging their customers.

Dee Pee · 07-14-2011, 09:28 PM

As an owner of one of the few pristine low-mileage, unmolested S54 M Roadsters left in the world, I can testify that low production volumes don't always translate into desirability. I suspect that values will fall to reasonable levels as soon as the next "auto du jour" appears. In six months, you'll start to see these babies pop up on the used market and I'll betcha you won't be seeing any of the pricing jackassery that's going on now.

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." - Publilius Syrus

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