Deal Information

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 01:16 PM

I wanted to get more feedback on the deal I am getting on a 2014 X5 diesel.
PLease let me know what your guys' thoughts are.

Price 69255
msrp 71000
term 36 mos
10k miles per year
rate .00076
residual .61
RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)
Acq fee 725
MSD $5600
doc fee 80
pmt 855

chrisny · 12-02-2013, 01:41 PM

Payment seems high to me with the MSD's and they barely took anything off of MSRP (I'm assuming $1000 of that isn't even from them, but owner loyalty?).

but for sure, you need to know what this is:

RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)

Nice M5, btw..

Psycho · 12-02-2013, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

I wanted to get more feedback on the deal I am getting on a 2014 X5 diesel.
PLease let me know what your guys' thoughts are.

Price 69255
msrp 71000
term 36 mos
10k miles per year
rate .00076
residual .61
RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)
Acq fee 725
MSD $5600
doc fee 80
pmt 855

1.8% APR?

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisny

Payment seems high to me with the MSD's and they barely took anything off of MSRP (I'm assuming $1000 of that isn't even from them, but owner loyalty?).

but for sure, you need to know what this is:

RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)

Nice M5, btw..

Any clue where I can get invoice pricing online?
BMWCONFIG usually has them, but they haven't added the F15 yet.

Thanks, the M5 is a great piece of machinery, but we can't take it to the snow.

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho

1.8% APR?

This is what it says on the quote that I was given.

BMWMico · 12-02-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

I wanted to get more feedback on the deal I am getting on a 2014 X5 diesel.
PLease let me know what your guys' thoughts are.

Price 69255
msrp 71000
term 36 mos
10k miles per year
rate .00076
residual .61
RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)
Acq fee 725
MSD $5600
doc fee 80
pmt 855

Anything port or dealer installed? That could be the RES ADDS.

The deal looks fine, but is it for a car in stock or an order? A lot of dealers recently take deals on order without any intention of delivery any time soon. They take you off the market, but they use allocation for customers that are ready to pay more to get a car sooner, and your order might sit in the order bank for months.

chrisny · 12-02-2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisny

Payment seems high to me with the MSD's and they barely took anything off of MSRP (I'm assuming $1000 of that isn't even from them, but owner loyalty?).

but for sure, you need to know what this is:

RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is)

Nice M5, btw..

Any clue where I can get invoice pricing online?
BMWCONFIG usually has them, but they haven't added the F15 yet.

Thanks, the M5 is a great piece of machinery, but we can't take it to the snow.

Edmunds and truecar have it up now.

RickP · 12-02-2013, 03:19 PM

carprices.com Your target should be 7% off of MSRP.

leasehackr · 12-02-2013, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickP

carprices.com Your target should be 7% off of MSRP.

Any dealers recommendations who wants to work at 7%?
I will order in a heartbeat.

RickP · 12-02-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhiku

Any dealers recommendations who wants to work at 7%?
I will order in a heartbeat.

Every time I share my dealer, people use them to negotiate with another dealer. Sorry, just have a firm line with your dealer. You want $500 over invoice, MF .00125 and RES at 61% for 36mo and 10k miles.

barcelona · 12-02-2013, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickP

Every time I share my dealer, people use them to negotiate with another dealer. Sorry, just have a firm line with your dealer. You want $500 over invoice, MF .00125 and RES at 61% for 36mo and 10k miles.

Ditto

BMWMN1971 · 12-02-2013, 09:18 PM

$5600 in MSD that is what is bringing APR down. However, PMT seems very high.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho

1.8% APR?

NikonMan · 12-02-2013, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWSFMico

Anything port or dealer installed? That could be the RES ADDS.

The deal looks fine, but is it for a car in stock or an order? A lot of dealers recently take deals on order without any intention of delivery any time soon. They take you off the market, but they use allocation for customers that are ready to pay more to get a car sooner, and your order might sit in the order bank for months.

Good point - I suspect this happens more than people think.

Psycho · 12-02-2013, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWMN1971

$5600 in MSD that is what is bringing APR down. However, PMT seems very high.

Yep, I didn't catch that.

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 10:22 PM

forgot to mention they are adding 21" wheels and giving me 1k back from the oem 19's

tiburonh · 12-02-2013, 11:35 PM

Ah, I think this may finally explain the $2000 "RES ADDS" mystery. The 21" wheels retail for about $3,000 more than the 19" ones. They are "giving" you $1,000 off of that difference and thus the added residual value of the car is $2,000.

Anyway, that's my guess

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhiku

Any dealers recommendations who wants to work at 7%?
I will order in a heartbeat.

Are you in Socal?

greentrbo95gst · 12-02-2013, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiburonh

Ah, I think this may finally explain the $2000 "RES ADDS" mystery. The 21" wheels retail for about $3,000 more than the 19" ones. They are "giving" you $1,000 off of that difference and thus the added residual value of the car is $2,000.

Anyway, that's my guess

Would that raise the actual price so it seems as if I am not getting enough off msrp?

tiburonh · 12-03-2013, 12:06 AM

Without having more details on the full original equipment on the car, I can't say for sure. But my guess is that they are treating the wheel swap as sort of an "after the fact" sale relative to the sale of the car itself. Rest assured the $2,000 net additional value of the new wheels is being included in the price your lease charges are based on -- it's just that the cost of the wheels can't be included in the MSRP of the car (and your discount off of that) because the wheels are an after-market, dealer supplied and priced accessory.

Again, all just my best guess. Hopefully someone else on this forum can supply a more informed opinion.

greentrbo95gst · 12-04-2013, 12:13 AM

Here is the specs:

My X5 xDrive35d Details
TwinPower Turbo 6-cylinder in-line, 3.0 liter engine
xDrive, intelligent all-wheel drive
See all standard features

BASE MSRP
$56,600
M Sport
$4,600
Carbon Black Metallic
$550
Terra Dakota Leather
$0
Fineline Pure Wood Trim
$0
Cold Weather Package
$550
Driver Assistance Plus
$1,900
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Driver Assistance Package
$1,400
Lighting Package
$1,900
Multi-contour seats
$950
Premium Package
$2,700
4-zone automatic climate control
$500
Concierge Services
$250
Nappa Leather Dashboard
$1,200
Rear manual side window shades
$250
Harman Kardon surround sound system
$875
Space-saver spare
$150
Destination & Handling:
$925

Total MSRP as Built $75,300

tiburonh · 12-04-2013, 02:00 AM

OK, I give up. None of this makes any sense. Your original post said the MSRP was $71,000, but now you say the MSRP is $75,300. And you still don't offer any details about the late breaking "news" of the tire swap. I'm done trying to help you.

greentrbo95gst · 12-04-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tiburonh

OK, I give up. None of this makes any sense. Your original post said the MSRP was $71,000, but now you say the MSRP is $75,300. And you still don't offer any details about the late breaking "news" of the tire swap. I'm done trying to help you.

Sorry, the MSRP in the original post was wrong since the dealer used 35i pricing. All I was told on the tire/wheel deal that they will give it to me at cost for 4k and pay me 1k for the oem wheels and tires.

12-02-2013, 01:16 PM	#1
greentrbo95gst Brigadier General 1256 Rep 4,121 Posts Drives: 21 M5 Comp Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orange County iTrader: (6)	Deal Information I wanted to get more feedback on the deal I am getting on a 2014 X5 diesel. PLease let me know what your guys' thoughts are. Price 69255 msrp 71000 term 36 mos 10k miles per year rate .00076 residual .61 RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is) Acq fee 725 MSD $5600 doc fee 80 pmt 855 __________________ Current: 21 M5 Comp, 23 M3 6spd, 23 i4, 20 Tundra TRD PRO
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chrisny Brigadier General 547 Rep 3,307 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 40i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Payment seems high to me with the MSD's and they barely took anything off of MSRP (I'm assuming $1000 of that isn't even from them, but owner loyalty?). but for sure, you need to know what this is: RES ADDS 2000 (Not sure what this is) Nice M5, btw..
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RickP Lieutenant 168 Rep 420 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Comp/DCT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chi-town iTrader: (0)	carprices.com Your target should be 7% off of MSRP.
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greentrbo95gst Brigadier General 1256 Rep 4,121 Posts Drives: 21 M5 Comp Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orange County iTrader: (6)	forgot to mention they are adding 21" wheels and giving me 1k back from the oem 19's __________________ Current: 21 M5 Comp, 23 M3 6spd, 23 i4, 20 Tundra TRD PRO
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tiburonh Private First Class 9 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2014 i3 BEV, 2015 x3 diesel Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Ah, I think this may finally explain the $2000 "RES ADDS" mystery. The 21" wheels retail for about $3,000 more than the 19" ones. They are "giving" you $1,000 off of that difference and thus the added residual value of the car is $2,000. Anyway, that's my guess
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12-03-2013, 12:06 AM	#19
tiburonh Private First Class 9 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2014 i3 BEV, 2015 x3 diesel Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Without having more details on the full original equipment on the car, I can't say for sure. But my guess is that they are treating the wheel swap as sort of an "after the fact" sale relative to the sale of the car itself. Rest assured the $2,000 net additional value of the new wheels is being included in the price your lease charges are based on -- it's just that the cost of the wheels can't be included in the MSRP of the car (and your discount off of that) because the wheels are an after-market, dealer supplied and priced accessory. Again, all just my best guess. Hopefully someone else on this forum can supply a more informed opinion.
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12-04-2013, 12:13 AM	#20
greentrbo95gst Brigadier General 1256 Rep 4,121 Posts Drives: 21 M5 Comp Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orange County iTrader: (6)	Here is the specs: My X5 xDrive35d Details TwinPower Turbo 6-cylinder in-line, 3.0 liter engine xDrive, intelligent all-wheel drive See all standard features BASE MSRP $56,600 M Sport $4,600 Carbon Black Metallic $550 Terra Dakota Leather $0 Fineline Pure Wood Trim $0 Cold Weather Package $550 Driver Assistance Plus $1,900 • Driver Assistance Package $1,400 Lighting Package $1,900 Multi-contour seats $950 Premium Package $2,700 4-zone automatic climate control $500 Concierge Services $250 Nappa Leather Dashboard $1,200 Rear manual side window shades $250 Harman Kardon surround sound system $875 Space-saver spare $150 Destination & Handling: $925 Total MSRP as Built $75,300 __________________ Current: 21 M5 Comp, 23 M3 6spd, 23 i4, 20 Tundra TRD PRO
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12-04-2013, 02:00 AM	#21
tiburonh Private First Class 9 Rep 172 Posts Drives: 2014 i3 BEV, 2015 x3 diesel Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	OK, I give up. None of this makes any sense. Your original post said the MSRP was $71,000, but now you say the MSRP is $75,300. And you still don't offer any details about the late breaking "news" of the tire swap. I'm done trying to help you.
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